what's the difference between a systems admin and a systems engineer?

[vital]

?

 

[Chiropteran]

engineers pilot trains.

 

[PAB]

Administrator would be management with technical skills.

Engineer would be mostly technical with some management.

 

[randay]

one administrates, the other engineers.

 

[AStar617]

Depending on the company, this is sometimes nothing more than a semantic difference. I assume you're jobhunting--the listing details will often tell you much more than the posted job title.

 

[mugs]

Sysadmin = IT guy, keeps the servers up and running basically.
Systems engineer = Guy who designs and/or develops information systems

Two entirely unrelated jobs.

 

[alkemyst]

This job descriptions are usually across the board.

I have found a sys admin keeps it going and the engineer figures it out.

In most jobs I think it's usually sys admin and net engineer though. One does the soft stuff which can be hard and one does the hard stuff which can be easy.

 

[GeekDrew]

Technical definitions define them differently; in many companies, however, they are combined into one position.

 

[FoBoT]

at my company, engineer > admin

 

[her209]

One of them is a blonde?

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: mugs
Sysadmin = IT guy, keeps the servers up and running basically.
Systems engineer = Guy who designs and/or develops information systems

Two entirely unrelated jobs.

yes

edit: they do not work on the same things. A sys admin is like mugs said, someone who works on servers/networks. A systems engineer designs systems (circuits) that go into things, not necessarily networks.

 

[xrax]

Systems engineer is all about the process.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_engineering

http://www.sie.arizona.edu/sysengr/whatis/whatis.html

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

I'm called a systems admin because I do ever freaking thing. "Systems" and "Admin" are broad terms technologically.

 

[vital]

So should Systems Engineer take MCSE while Systems Admin take MCSA?

 

[jmcoreymv]

At the last place I work, a systems admin and systems engineers were completely unrelated jobs.

Sys admin = administer of networks/computers

Sys engineer = engineer with broad abilities in electrical, mechanical, etc engineering to help oversee the development of an actual product.

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: vital
So should Systems Engineer take MCSE while Systems Admin take MCSA?

LOL neither one should take either of those. They are about as common as a $1 bill these days... And worth about just that much

 

[thepd7]

Around here all systems engineers have at least a BS in EE. Many have their masters as well.