what's the difference between a systems admin and a systems engineer?

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  1. vital

    vital Platinum Member

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    engineers pilot trains.
     
  3. PAB

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    Administrator would be management with technical skills.

    Engineer would be mostly technical with some management.
     
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    one administrates, the other engineers.
     
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    Depending on the company, this is sometimes nothing more than a semantic difference. I assume you're jobhunting--the listing details will often tell you much more than the posted job title.
     
  6. mugs

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    Sysadmin = IT guy, keeps the servers up and running basically.
    Systems engineer = Guy who designs and/or develops information systems

    Two entirely unrelated jobs.
     
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    This job descriptions are usually across the board.

    I have found a sys admin keeps it going and the engineer figures it out.

    In most jobs I think it's usually sys admin and net engineer though. One does the soft stuff which can be hard and one does the hard stuff which can be easy.

    ;)
     
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    Technical definitions define them differently; in many companies, however, they are combined into one position.
     
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    at my company, engineer > admin
     
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    One of them is a blonde?
     
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    yes

    edit: they do not work on the same things. A sys admin is like mugs said, someone who works on servers/networks. A systems engineer designs systems (circuits) that go into things, not necessarily networks.
     
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    I'm called a systems admin because I do ever freaking thing. "Systems" and "Admin" are broad terms technologically.
     
  14. vital

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    So should Systems Engineer take MCSE while Systems Admin take MCSA?
     
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    At the last place I work, a systems admin and systems engineers were completely unrelated jobs.

    Sys admin = administer of networks/computers

    Sys engineer = engineer with broad abilities in electrical, mechanical, etc engineering to help oversee the development of an actual product.
     
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    LOL neither one should take either of those. They are about as common as a $1 bill these days... And worth about just that much
     
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    Around here all systems engineers have at least a BS in EE. Many have their masters as well.