I'm not a fan of punk music, ergo, I don't go to their concerts on my own. However, I was with a bunch of people at a Sum 41 concert last night, when I suddenly found myslef at the edge of a mosh pit. Not expecting it, and not wanting to get involved, I try not to get trampled or anything. As I'm watching them though, I ask myself, why push people into it who don't want to be in it / really would not like to get hurt. Anyone have any insight?
What's the deal with Moshing?
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Yeah, I don't really understand mosh pits either... Not my thing, I'm there for the music.
We got caught on the edge of a mosh pit at the Metallica concert, it was bizzare.. Just standing there, then all a sudden the crowd went WHOOSH.. and a big huge circle opened up. We were right on the edge, we went literally flying backwards as everybody moved backwards... We decided to move back a little after that.. lol
We got caught on the edge of a mosh pit at the Metallica concert, it was bizzare.. Just standing there, then all a sudden the crowd went WHOOSH.. and a big huge circle opened up. We were right on the edge, we went literally flying backwards as everybody moved backwards... We decided to move back a little after that.. lol
EvilYoda
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I don't mind the pit, as it's cool if you're into it...but yeah, if someone pushes someone in there, who doesn't want to be in there, that's not cool. When they start just pushing and punching the people at the edge of the circle, that's when I get pissed. I find out who pushed me, wait til he comes around again, and he's going flying (assuming I can move him...the drunk 350lb bastards are difficult).
Can't wait for Summer Sanitarium/Lollapalooza/Warped.
Can't wait for Summer Sanitarium/Lollapalooza/Warped.
Yeah, if I had another foot and hundered pounds on me, then I could do something about it. I can imagine getting into the music and all, but come on, there are other people in the area with you.
haha, brings back some memories.
Us old-school punks use to call it SLAM DANCING, which is a much more descriptive term IMO. Not sure when it started being called Moshing or how it got that name, but that was long after I left the scene.
Us old-school punks use to call it SLAM DANCING, which is a much more descriptive term IMO. Not sure when it started being called Moshing or how it got that name, but that was long after I left the scene.
I agree.. but I would rather just stand in one spot while 'banging.
Wow.. that could be taken so many ways. :Q
Originally posted by: Eli
I agree.. but I would rather just stand in one spot while 'banging.
Wow.. that could be taken so many ways. :Q
No f*cking clue.
Go to a Dream Theater concert, and you won't see ANY moshing.
Just 10,000 people with their jaws dropped open wondering how the hell such amazingness is possible.
Damnit, I need to pick up tix to the July 17 show.
Go to a Dream Theater concert, and you won't see ANY moshing.
Just 10,000 people with their jaws dropped open wondering how the hell such amazingness is possible.
Damnit, I need to pick up tix to the July 17 show.
With all the kids who have no clue on how to behave, and who think they should behave the way they saw on MTV and stuff, punching unfortunately gets more and more common with the 'popular' bands. Some Nu-metal band had it in their video, so it must be what you have to do right?
With bands that have been around longer the fans who come for the music rather than cause the band had a hit single will usually keep those kids under control, and it will be pusing rather than hitting, and if someone falls or loses their glasses or whatever the whole pit dies down and everyone moves aside to help out. Also those around the pit will usually not be pushed in at those concerts.
Vic
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Moshing and slam dancing are not the same thing.
Slam dancing began way back in early punk as the "pogo" -- basically jumping straight up and down. That lead to people bumping into each other and then slam dancing.
Moshing began in old-skool thrash metal and hard core. You would "run" (though not really) around the pit in a circular direction, lifting your knees high and swinging your arms and banging your head (ever seen the old DRI logo?). The old skool mosh was just you gettin' your groove on to some really hard core music and you also just happened to be in a crowd of people bumping off everyone. Sure, it was rough, but it was fun and the worst anyone would get is a couple of bruises (I did sprain my ankle once but that kind of thing was rare).
Nowadays though, mosh pits suck. Punks are just trying to look cool, swing fists, no one seems to care about the music, and no one does anything about it.
Slam dancing began way back in early punk as the "pogo" -- basically jumping straight up and down. That lead to people bumping into each other and then slam dancing.
Moshing began in old-skool thrash metal and hard core. You would "run" (though not really) around the pit in a circular direction, lifting your knees high and swinging your arms and banging your head (ever seen the old DRI logo?). The old skool mosh was just you gettin' your groove on to some really hard core music and you also just happened to be in a crowd of people bumping off everyone. Sure, it was rough, but it was fun and the worst anyone would get is a couple of bruises (I did sprain my ankle once but that kind of thing was rare).
Nowadays though, mosh pits suck. Punks are just trying to look cool, swing fists, no one seems to care about the music, and no one does anything about it.
I enjoy it, it's a killer release and good excercise. A way to share the enjoyment of a high energy rock show with a host of people you've never met but who enjoy the same thing. Plus, it's full of sweaty girls.
:beer:
:beer:
What you describe as Moshing is exactly what we did in my days when it was called Slam Dancing. A "pit" formed by people moving in a circular direction with a half-run-half-skip in tune with the music. It got rough but most people were considerate enough to help a fellow punk back up if he fell, rather than trample over him. But as always, there were a few a$$holes now then.
So the terms Moshing and Slam Dancing are being used to describe the same thing. Perhaps it started as a regional thing and the term Moshing didn't make it to the Florida scene in the early eighties when I was a part of it. It wasn't until the mid nineties that I first heard Moshing being used to describe exactly what we used to do.
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