whats the deal with led zeppelin???

[edmicman]

thats good - thats what all those guys grew up on, and it shaped their sounds to make them what they are. i'm not saying that the music of the 60s and 70s sucked (goofy hippies) its just it doesn't seem like the end-all for me. its not like the stones and zep and whatnot came up things out of thin air - their stuff was based on what they grew up on. maybe it IS a generational thing. i'm a product of the 80s and 90s, and also would bet that 20yrs down the road they'll talk about the alt-rock movement of the early to mid 90s in the same manner that they talk about the beatles, elvis, stones, etc.

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
ROFL LMFAO at saying that PRIMUS (Big Brown Beaver anyone?) is better than Zeppelin. ROFL!!!

Now, that's funny. By the way, there is a DVD from a live concert in New York in '77. Definitely worth watching. Jimmy Page was just a killer in that concert.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: MacBaine

don't think they hold anything musically to the likes of smashing pumpkins, primus, metallica, or radiohead

You're joking, right?



Please tell me you're joking...

I was thinking the same thing, I heard of Craptallica but the other one's are who? and what have they done for the industry besides fight napster

make better music than you ever will.

And there's people who make better music than they ever could. What's your point?

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: edmicman
thats good - thats what all those guys grew up on, and it shaped their sounds to make them what they are. i'm not saying that the music of the 60s and 70s sucked (goofy hippies) its just it doesn't seem like the end-all for me. its not like the stones and zep and whatnot came up things out of thin air - their stuff was based on what they grew up on. maybe it IS a generational thing. i'm a product of the 80s and 90s, and also would bet that 20yrs down the road they'll talk about the alt-rock movement of the early to mid 90s in the same manner that they talk about the beatles, elvis, stones, etc.

It isn't entirely. I am 20, and I pretty much only listen to Classic Rock. And I know plenty of people my age who do the same.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Saltin
Edmicman,

Go grab a copy of "Bring it on Home". Wait for it to kick in.
That's tight drums, a killer riff.... that's the total package right there.

"Whole lotta Love" and "Kashmir" rock too!

I agree with the older guys, no one can or ever will hold a candle to Zeppelin.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: edmicman
thats good - thats what all those guys grew up on, and it shaped their sounds to make them what they are. i'm not saying that the music of the 60s and 70s sucked (goofy hippies) its just it doesn't seem like the end-all for me. its not like the stones and zep and whatnot came up things out of thin air - their stuff was based on what they grew up on. maybe it IS a generational thing. i'm a product of the 80s and 90s, and also would bet that 20yrs down the road they'll talk about the alt-rock movement of the early to mid 90s in the same manner that they talk about the beatles, elvis, stones, etc.

Goofy Hippies compared to the worthless pasty faced Punks such as yourself? Some of those Goofy Hippies are running thworld (maybe that's why everything is so F'd up) Tony Blair was one of those Goofy Hippies in a Rock Band before he decided to give it up and enter the world of politics.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
They held a weekend-long top500 song-contest in radio few years back in Finland. Basically you could vote for your favourite song of all time. Who won?

Led Zeppelin: Stairway to Heaven

'nuff said.

I really like Led Zeppelin but I don't understand why people like that osng so much. I feel it is one of their worst songs.

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: edmicman
thats good - thats what all those guys grew up on, and it shaped their sounds to make them what they are. i'm not saying that the music of the 60s and 70s sucked (goofy hippies) its just it doesn't seem like the end-all for me. its not like the stones and zep and whatnot came up things out of thin air - their stuff was based on what they grew up on. maybe it IS a generational thing. i'm a product of the 80s and 90s, and also would bet that 20yrs down the road they'll talk about the alt-rock movement of the early to mid 90s in the same manner that they talk about the beatles, elvis, stones, etc.

What? I am 19 and I listen to mostly 60's and 70's music. I hate almost all of the new music out there, especially the scum called rap.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Stifko
Neither the Stones or LedZep are overrated IMHO. Show me any band nowadays that puts out so much great music. The Red Hots ? STP ? they don't come close to these guys, but its a generational thing maybe. I sometimes play Physical Graffitti over and over at my job, and never get tired of it.

Yep, that's another thing. In our recent era of one/two hit wonders, these bands put out 10s of records of great music. Not on;ly that, but you could count on most, if not all the songs on an album to be worth listening to.

If bands today were able to make albums like that the Record Industry wouldn't be hurting like they are.

Yeah but why is there no more good music ? Is it because everything under the sun has been done or there is a lack of creativity w/these young punks ?

That's been said many times over the past 25 to 30 years and someone always comes along to set the world on fire. In the 70's it was Punk, Reggea and the horrible Disco Crap, in the 80's it was New Wave, then the Revival of Hard Rock and Rap started to become big, in the 90's it was Grunge ..unfortunately that's when the dreaded Boy Bands and Female Pop Divas started to infest the music scene which probably has lead to the Stagnation of creativity.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
They held a weekend-long top500 song-contest in radio few years back in Finland. Basically you could vote for your favourite song of all time. Who won?

Led Zeppelin: Stairway to Heaven

'nuff said.

I really like Led Zeppelin but I don't understand why people like that osng so much. I feel it is one of their worst songs.

I feel it's one of their best, but I never really feel like listening to it.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: edmicman
so i'm back from the bar, and yet again i got into a discussion about zeppelin as they were playing on the jukebox. i just don't get what the big deal is. why are people so crazy over zeppelin? frankly i don't think they're anythign special. yeah, they're good, but thats all. average even. i don't think they hold anything musically to the likes of smashing pumpkins, primus, metallica, or radiohead. they just don't seem to do anything for me, where the other guys do. whats the big deal? anyways i'm goin to bed. laterz

Those groups did not exist when Zepplin revolutionized rock.

In essence, they exist BECAUSE of Zepplin.

amish

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Amused
Some people will never understand why Led Zeppelin was great for the same reason they can't understand why such a "sloppy guitarist" as Hendrix is considered among the best in history. For the same reason they cannot grasp the greatness and relevance of Elvis Presley or The Beatles. For the same reason they cannot understand why Mozart was revolutionary.

Not only do they lack taste, but they lack the ability to put things into historical context.

One can only hope that they grow up, and their musical taste and grasp of historical relevance widens.

way to hit the nail on the head.

Even if you don't "get" Led Zepplin comparing them to primus and metaillica had to be a joke. Its hard to believe anyone could compare them without realizing that Zepplin flat out invented heavy metal/rock.

 

[GroundZero]

Originally posted by: edmicman
so i'm back from the bar, and yet again i got into a discussion about zeppelin as they were playing on the jukebox. i just don't get what the big deal is. why are people so crazy over zeppelin? frankly i don't think they're anythign special. yeah, they're good, but thats all. average even. i don't think they hold anything musically to the likes of smashing pumpkins, primus, metallica, or radiohead. they just don't seem to do anything for me, where the other guys do. whats the big deal? anyways i'm goin to bed. laterz

young people like you have no respect for the good things in life...
zeppelin created their own music , great rock and roll. they never bowed down to the corporate jackasses like the bands that you mentioned. if it weren't for Zeppelin there wouldn't even be any smashing pumkins or the others. metallica even sold out to the man...
smashing pumkins were sellouts before they even started. most of the new bands are nothing but corporate crap bands IMHO.
there has been no original music that has came down the pipe in a long time now. only commercial clones.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

I suppose not being able to appreciate classic music is like not being able to appreciate old cars. You either can or you can't. Either way, it's about soul.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Amused
Some people will never understand why Led Zeppelin was great for the same reason they can't understand why such a "sloppy guitarist" as Hendrix is considered among the best in history. For the same reason they cannot grasp the greatness and relevance of Elvis Presley or The Beatles. For the same reason they cannot understand why Mozart was revolutionary.

Not only do they lack taste, but they lack the ability to put things into historical context.

One can only hope that they grow up, and their musical taste and grasp of historical relevance widens.

way to hit the nail on the head.

Even if you don't "get" Led Zepplin comparing them to primus and metaillica had to be a joke. Its hard to believe anyone could compare them without realizing that Zepplin flat out invented heavy metal/rock.

You have to give some credit to Black Sabbath also, another band who in their day, revolutionized the heavy Rock/Blues sound.

 

[ConclamoLudus]

Favorite Zeppelin song

When the Levee Breaks

One of the most haunting blues songs ever recorded. Those crazy brits, I love them! When the blues hit the british it became heavy metal. Lets not forget The Animals in there either, they provided a great bridge for rock and blues even though they were just a few white kids with a Bo Diddley obsession. Its the great progression, Metallica's only claim to the hall of fame is that they were the only hair band that made it through the 80's and early 90's and survived through the grunge scene. Now the only way they can get any recognition is by flapping the jaw about Napster.

 

[eviltoon]

i don't think they hold anything musically to the likes of smashing pumpkins

Okay, 20 years from now smashing pumkins will be seen as a Halloween activity. And that's about it. If you are only hearing Led Zeppelin 25 some years after their hey day and you say, "what's the big deal?". You obviously, haven't experienced what time does to most bands. It wipes them out! Those boys could play, and they broke new trails every time they put out a new album. I don't need to lecture. Music is way too personal. But my lord they only had 3 guys playing instruments, Robert singing. The energy of their live shows was amazing. They didn't rely on huge setups of digital effects boxes and looped tracks. Just raw straight rock and roll. Wonderful stuff.

Oh and musically, the guitar player from Smashing Pumpkins or any of the other bands you metioned would probably be embarrassed by your comment. A guitar player would recognize Jimmy Pages abilities, and probably not want to compare hismelf to them.