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cwjerome

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Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: biostud
Best way to way to deal with terrorism: "Fvck you", and then carry on living.


Right. Call them a dirty name and ignore 'em until they blow up some more subways. :roll:

It's sad that people would rather put up with this evil BS than have the United States flex its muscles.


Bomb Iraq!!!! GO USA RAH RAH RAH!!!!


It's sad when this is the level of comment the Left usually provides. Not surprising though :)
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: biostud
Best way to way to deal with terrorism: "Fvck you", and then carry on living.


Right. Call them a dirty name and ignore 'em until they blow up some more subways. :roll:

It's sad that people would rather put up with this evil BS than have the United States flex its muscles.
It's sad when this is the level of comment the chickenhawk Right usually provides. Not surprising though :)
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: biostud
Best way to way to deal with terrorism: "Fvck you", and then carry on living.


Right. Call them a dirty name and ignore 'em until they blow up some more subways. :roll:

It's sad that people would rather put up with this evil BS than have the United States flex its muscles.
It's sad when this is the level of comment the chickenhawk Right usually provides. Not surprising though :)

And it's funny that anyone who supports the war is that little leftwing name people with no argument use. :)

I like how someone says we should just curse the terrorists, yet the Libs attack my comment that we should actually take military action. LOL, and it's no wonder the Dems are struggling with issues of patriotism and national security.

Biostud, I noticed you live in Europe. How come most of you guys will throw a tizzy about a 40 hour workweek, yet are strangely paralytic when gross violence is perpetrated (like terrorist bombings... or say, mass laughter in the Balkans?)?

 

conjur

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And just who do you plan on bombing? And, once that bombing is complete, do you honestly think terrorism will stop? If so, please tell us what the color of the sky is in your world.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
And just who do you plan on bombing? And, once that bombing is complete, do you honestly think terrorism will stop? If so, please tell us what the color of the sky is in your world.


I would plan on taking military action ("bombing?") on those individuals, groups, and governments that actively seek harm to the US through international Islamaterrorism. This will kill many of those that are at war and enforce social change in certain areas. This straegy is two-fold: Bring justice to and help eliminate the enemy, while sowing the roots for long-term structural change.

And yes, once this long and difficult process is complete, terrorism -as the threat we know it today- will be drastically reduced. My sky is blue, with clouds.. It would seem your naive, self-debasing, wrist-slapping outlook replaces my silver-lined clouds with ominous thunderstorms of human suffering.
 

conjur

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Ok...so....when do the bombing runs of London start? The perpetrators lived in London. I guess England is harboring terrorists. We'd best invade them.

No, your sky is a kaleidescope of colors as you are *out there*!
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
I would plan on taking military action ("bombing?") on those individuals, groups, and governments that actively seek harm to the US through international Islamaterrorism.


Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
Ok...so....when do the bombing runs of London start? The perpetrators lived in London. I guess England is harboring terrorists. We'd best invade them.

No, your sky is a kaleidescope of colors as you are *out there*!


Talking to you is like talking to a wall.

No wonder you're confused :cookie:

You're right... England is harboring terrorists! Bomb the queen! :roll:

 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: cwjerome
I would plan on taking military action ("bombing?") on those individuals, groups, and governments that actively seek harm to the US through international Islamaterrorism.


Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?


For about a half dozen good reasons. If you haven't discovered the logic yet, then I doubt anything I say will clear your head.

Once we have unlimited manpower, money, and resources, we'll be able to do everything within a one month period :roll:

(actually scratch that... even with unlimited, we'd take about 10 years because of the constant pleas of stupidity from the Left wrecking any progress)

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
Ok...so....when do the bombing runs of London start? The perpetrators lived in London. I guess England is harboring terrorists. We'd best invade them.

No, your sky is a kaleidescope of colors as you are *out there*!
Talking to you is like talking to a wall.

No wonder you're confused :cookie:

You're right... England is harboring terrorists! Bomb the queen! :roll:
That's what you want to do. The terrorists were living in London! What do you propose to do?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: bamacre
Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?
For about a half dozen good reasons. If you haven't discovered the logic yet, then I doubt anything I say will clear your head.

Once we have unlimited manpower, money, and resources, we'll be able to do everything within a one month period :roll:

(actually scratch that... even with unlimited, we'd take about 10 years because of the constant pleas of stupidity from the Left wrecking any progress)
I seem to recall the PNAC morons saying Iraq would be a 60-, to 90-day war.

2 1/2 years later....
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: bamacre
Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?
For about a half dozen good reasons. If you haven't discovered the logic yet, then I doubt anything I say will clear your head.

Once we have unlimited manpower, money, and resources, we'll be able to do everything within a one month period :roll:

(actually scratch that... even with unlimited, we'd take about 10 years because of the constant pleas of stupidity from the Left wrecking any progress)
I seem to recall the PNAC morons saying Iraq would be a 60-, to 90-day war.

2 1/2 years later....


Well good for them?

I -and virtually everyone I know who supports agressive military action- have always thought things will take a good amount of time. Granted, I had hoped the US would have done things much different in Iraq, as things would now be much better there. But thanks in no large part to political correctness, Rumsfeld's miscalculations, and the general skittishness of Leftists, we were soft and passive.

That doesn't mean I think IT was a mistake... it means I think there have been a lot of mistakes made. So let's see, I can support Bush, who kinda does the right thing but does it badly, or the Dems... who can't even do the right thing. Wow, guess who I support?
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
That's what you want to do. The terrorists were living in London! What do you propose to do?

Enough already. You're either more dense than I realized or playing infantile games. OMG there's terrorists living in LA, bomb it, bomb it!!!!!

What do I propose to do? Not discussing this silly tangent with you anymore.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
That's what you want to do. The terrorists were living in London! What do you propose to do?
Enough already. You're either more dense than I realized or playing infantile games. OMG there's terrorists living in LA, bomb it, bomb it!!!!!

What do I propose to do? Not discussing this silly tangent with you anymore.
IOW, you're all hat and no cattle...just like the Propagandist.

Come on, cwjerome. Wow us with your amazing intellece of how to rid England of terrorists. We're all waiting with bated breath.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: bamacre
Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?
For about a half dozen good reasons. If you haven't discovered the logic yet, then I doubt anything I say will clear your head.

Once we have unlimited manpower, money, and resources, we'll be able to do everything within a one month period :roll:

(actually scratch that... even with unlimited, we'd take about 10 years because of the constant pleas of stupidity from the Left wrecking any progress)
I seem to recall the PNAC morons saying Iraq would be a 60-, to 90-day war.

2 1/2 years later....


Well good for them?

I -and virtually everyone I know who supports agressive military action- have always thought things will take a good amount of time. Granted, I had hoped the US would have done things much different in Iraq, as things would now be much better there. But thanks in no large part to political correctness, Rumsfeld's miscalculations, and the general skittishness of Leftists, we were soft and passive.

That doesn't mean I think IT was a mistake... it means I think there have been a lot of mistakes made. So let's see, I can support Bush, who kinda does the right thing but does it badly, or the Dems... who can't even do the right thing. Wow, guess who I support?
The war in Iraq has proven the PNAC ideology is a failed one yet apologists like yourself still insist it's working.

:roll:


1,752 dead American soldiers prove otherwise.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: bamacre
Then WTF do we have more troops in Iraq than in any of the countries in which you describe?
For about a half dozen good reasons. If you haven't discovered the logic yet, then I doubt anything I say will clear your head.

Once we have unlimited manpower, money, and resources, we'll be able to do everything within a one month period :roll:

(actually scratch that... even with unlimited, we'd take about 10 years because of the constant pleas of stupidity from the Left wrecking any progress)
I seem to recall the PNAC morons saying Iraq would be a 60-, to 90-day war.

2 1/2 years later....


Well good for them?

I -and virtually everyone I know who supports agressive military action- have always thought things will take a good amount of time. Granted, I had hoped the US would have done things much different in Iraq, as things would now be much better there. But thanks in no large part to political correctness, Rumsfeld's miscalculations, and the general skittishness of Leftists, we were soft and passive.

That doesn't mean I think IT was a mistake... it means I think there have been a lot of mistakes made. So let's see, I can support Bush, who kinda does the right thing but does it badly, or the Dems... who can't even do the right thing. Wow, guess who I support?
The war in Iraq has proven the PNAC ideology is a failed one yet apologists like yourself still insist it's working.

:roll:

1,752 dead American soldiers prove otherwise.

You're right. Unless Iraq was turned into a mini-America in 2 months with 10 casualties, it's a failure.

Anything would result in failure to someone who has built their whole worldview around crying that we went into Iraq.

 

conjur

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Who was ever saying that? Your exaggerated rhetoric is duly noted and ignored.

Now, cwjerome, care to answer the question?


The terrorists were living in London! What do you propose to do?
 

knyghtbyte

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Iraq was invaded due to 2 main reasons, control of oil, and to get the US a foothold in the Gulf/middle east area that would allow them to strike anywhere they wish in the future..........

it was not invaded due to there being WMD there, that was simply the excuse used to finally get in there.

USA, like the Egyptians 2,500 years ago, the Romans a few thousand years ago and us Brits a few hundred years ago are simply trying to maintain their empiric control of the world, whereas the Egyptians and Romans did it by and for force, the Brits by technology and for force, the USA do it for money and force. If you deny it then you are being very dumb, the people of the USA want the world to revolve to their ideals, and like all those empires previous, they believe everyone elses ideals are not fit to govern the world so they should.

Personally, i dont care, a war of terrorism will take waaay to long to complete, im likely to have died of old age before it gets to a point i'll be worried, oh sure a few bombs have gone off, so fvcking what? we went thru this 20 years ago with the IRA....lol...its old news......as you saw, did we give a real sh1t? nope, we just wanted to get on with our lives and go to work....lol

oh and if you wonder at any bitterness in my words, simple, twice now we backed the USA in recent history (Afghanistan and Gulf2 Brit troops had to go in first to make sure it was safe for the US troops as you guys didnt have the experience we did in this kind of fighting...lol) and you know what? your president has made it more than clear, despite us backing him against the UN councils wishes, he doesnt feel America owes England any favours........LOL.....now thats sad



 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: conjur
That's what you want to do. The terrorists were living in London! What do you propose to do?
Enough already. You're either more dense than I realized or playing infantile games. OMG there's terrorists living in LA, bomb it, bomb it!!!!!

What do I propose to do? Not discussing this silly tangent with you anymore.
IOW, you're all hat and no cattle...just like the Propagandist.

Come on, cwjerome. Wow us with your amazing intellece of how to rid England of terrorists. We're all waiting with bated breath.

Did you stumble and hit your head? I think it's fairly obvious to a reasonable person that YOU are the almighty P&N Propagandist :)

You want to know what little 'ol me would do about terrorists in London? How special...

Well, considering the UK is a strong ally and rational nation, I would continue to work very closely with them and offer help when and where it was needed.

There, did that quench your obsession? :roll:
 

conjur

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So, you're going to give them a cup of water and some band-aids? Wow...what a detailed response.

:cookie:
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
So, you're going to give them a cup of water and some band-aids? Wow...what a detailed response.

:cookie:



LOL, ok Mr. Detail (I guess you were hoping I'd say threaten them with nukes or something)... let's hear your version. What can/should we do about terrorists in London?
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: conjur
. Go ahead.

LOLOL, you're a hack. "I asked you first" like a first grader. Bitch and moan, complain and demand, cry and whine, question and insult, but you offer ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in any of your posts.

What would YOU do about Iraq, terrorism, and the war? What would YOU do with our foreign policy. You post 500 posts a day complaining about your BushDevil, but I cannot think of one time where YOU offered any detailed SOLUTION to anything...

I told you what I'd do. Considering that all I've been doing -telling you what I'd do- I'd like to hear something from you. Afraid to go on the defensive? Or maybe you have no ideas and you're just a critical robot programmed by your DNC masters? Just this once, pretty please, explain to me in detail what you would do... it might save you from pure tool-like status.
 

cwjerome

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: conjur
I asked you first. Go ahead.

So much for the party of ideas. :roll:


Excellent one-sentence analysis! So deep... :roll:

I've provided more ideas in this topic than conjur has in a lifetime.

And I'm not about some "party" you partisan lackey.