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Lifer
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^^^ I'll see your American journalist and raise you a US Navy ship.
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I'll raise you an entire culture of people ghettoized under an apartheid state.^^^ I'll see your American journalist and raise you a US Navy ship.
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Huh??? Where the fuck are you coming from? Get a fucking grip, man.This is bullshit Israeli propaganda. Just like they condemn any group against them as terrorists when they're the ones that helped create them (such as Hamas).
No there isn't.
Ok, so just stick your fingers in your ears, cover your eyes, play stupid all you want. You know you're supposed to also cover your mouth and STFU then, right?
Huh??? Where the fuck are you coming from? Get a fucking grip, man.
I understand there's a lot of animosity and flack around Israel, Gaza, the occupied territories, Palestinians, the middle east in general. But It's common knowledge that organizations such as Hamas say that Israel should not exist and that the whole area should belong to the Palestinians. I have seen/heard this again and again over the years.
THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS =======================================
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). -snip-
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the brave man standing behind the man kicking the elderly lady is about to pepper spray her in the face
Huh??? Where the fuck are you coming from? Get a fucking grip, man.
I understand there's a lot of animosity and flack around Israel, Gaza, the occupied territories, Palestinians, the middle east in general. But It's common knowledge that organizations such as Hamas say that Israel should not exist and that the whole area should belong to the Palestinians. I have seen/heard this again and again over the years.
You know, one of the main problems with Islam is the intolerance for others. If you are not of them, you are the enemy. In their terms, an infidel.
THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS =======================================
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad (Islamic Holy War). -snip-
Some comparison. Israeli occupiers. It's not like Russia invading Ukraine ya know. They are the largest country on earth. They invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation after having guaranteed their sovereignty, part of the deal they made that had Ukraine surrender 1700 nuclear weapons. They are raping, torturing and murdering innocent civilians, utterly destroying civilian infrastructure as much as they can pretty much. The Jews were basically a people without a homeland, a tiny tiny populace compared to, say, the Islamic population, of which there are 1.8 billion. Jews? There's hardly any on the planet - 15.2 million. They were awarded a tiny piece of land by the UN so they'd have a homeland for once after being outsiders everywhere they went for thousands of years. They didn't invade, their tanks did not roll in. The Palestinians said "over my dead body," and there you have the situation. Plus this happened right after a rather large chunk of the Jewish population of the planet was systematically exterminated because, because they were Jewish.fucking occupier scum. No different than Russians. I say let's deal with Israel after Ukraine wipes Putin and eastern Russia off the map.
Dude, you're nuts. Jews are on a different level than Muslims. They are NOT terrorists, whereas Islamic terrorism is a whole thing. Jews will avenge and they will (Israel does) take out threats systematically. But they are not eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth like Muslims. None of that. Fundamentalist Jews! Hah. Show me the ones with guns and bomb making materials. Never heard of that. Those people do live in their own worlds, similar to all manner of fundamentalist cults all over the world, but I am unaware of them having an aggressive intolerance. You come off as a serious bigot, man.Islam is far, far, far more tolerant of other religions than are the fundamentalist Jews that live in Israel and parts of the US, and certainly our own "Christian" evangelical scum in the US.
I'm going to have to say that you should really take a second, re-read the first 90% of what you said, and then re-read your last sentence.Dude, you're nuts. Jews are on a different level than Muslims. They are NOT terrorists, whereas Islamic terrorism is a whole thing. Jews will avenge and they will (Israel does) take out threats systematically. But they are not eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth like Muslims. None of that. Fundamentalist Jews! Hah. Show me the ones with guns and bomb making materials. Never heard of that. Those people do live in their own worlds, similar to all manner of fundamentalist cults all over the world, but I am unaware of them having an aggressive intolerance. You come off as a serious bigot, man.
So, just what are you trying to say? I reread it before I posted it (I typically do that when posting) and reread it several times after posting. So, what are you about here?I'm going to have to say that you should really take a second, re-read the first 90% of what you said, and then re-read your last sentence.
fucking occupier scum. No different than Russians. I say let's deal with Israel after Ukraine wipes Putin and eastern Russia off the map.
Dude, you're nuts. Jews are on a different level than Muslims. They are NOT terrorists, whereas Islamic terrorism is a whole thing. Jews will avenge and they will (Israel does) take out threats systematically. But they are not eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth like Muslims. None of that. Fundamentalist Jews! Hah. Show me the ones with guns and bomb making materials. Never heard of that. Those people do live in their own worlds, similar to all manner of fundamentalist cults all over the world, but I am unaware of them having an aggressive intolerance. You come off as a serious bigot, man.
Wow....that's a bit over the top.
I agree that Israel is WAY out of line with this racist crap but the entire situation in the middle-east isborderlineinsane. Keep in mind that Israel has a bunch of powerful far-right a$$holes that up until recently were completely in charge.
And the debate about who is actually "entitled" to the "Holy Land" (more like UN-holy land considering the blood spilled over it!) has been going on far longer then America has existed.
Absurd superstition and state-sanctioned violent racism on BOTH SIDES are no way to make things better and the two in tandem have created this mess.
Dude some shit has happened since the 1970s. You might read up on it.So, just what are you trying to say? I reread it before I posted it (I typically do that when posting) and reread it several times after posting. So, what are you about here?Now, I was responding to zinfamous' post, so a reading of my post has to be made in that context.
I think some serious parsing is in order to attempt to sort that whole thing out. Your statements were about Jews, not Israel.the fuck is wrong with you?
I once thought you were literate. You seem to have...skipped about 90% of world history.
lol, you just called Muslims pretty much terrorist racists, absolving all of Israel of their very public apartheid, terrorist tactics...while trying to call me a bigot.
I'm not talking about Jews. I am talking about Israel and Islam. You just called out actual people while I was speaking about national, religious policy.
seriously. get a fucking grip.
By and large "fundamentalist Jews" are an anomaly and aren't where they are particularly political and AFAIK ever violent, and I assume that goes for Israel as well as in America and elsewhere. That's my sense of them. If you think that the actions of Israel are due to the influence or participation of "fundamentalist Jews" I think you don't have a sense of the reality of the situation at all. I don't have a sense that the Jews in Israel are particularly religious, actually. Those that are are likely hardly influential.Islam is far, far, far more tolerant of other religions than are the fundamentalist Jews that live in Israel and parts of the US, and certainly our own "Christian" evangelical scum in the US.
I think some serious parsing is in order to attempt to sort that whole thing out. Your statements were about Jews, not Israel.
By and large "fundamentalist Jews" are an anomaly and aren't where they are particularly political and AFAIK ever violent, and I assume that goes for Israel as well as in America and elsewhere. That's my sense of them. If you think that the actions of Israel are due to the influence or participation of "fundamentalist Jews" I think you don't have a sense of the reality of the situation at all. I don't have a sense that the Jews in Israel are particularly religious, actually. Those that are are likely hardly influential.
Get a grip, man. You are off the handle a lot. Granted not all Muslims are terrorists however like I said, Islamic Terrorism is a thing, whereas Jewish terrorism is not. I grant, I hear and see a lot of things that Israelis are involved in that appear unnecessarily violent with regard to Palestinians. But look... Israel is a nation, relatively organized and has a military that is staffed by everybody... everybody in a sense that military service is required of all its citizens at some point. An organized military when dealing with chaotic insurrection of disorganized masses is apt to result in inordinate casualties among the insurrectionists compared to the organized military. That's the nature of things. Do Israelis go too far in that? Many many times it has seemed to me that they have. But my exposure has been largely American television news coverage, which is a window into it, but not "the whole story." I do despise Netanyahu and have for a long time and hoped to see much better leadership there.
They should never have allowed the settlements and should withdraw, agreed.Eh? Plenty of terrorism from the Jewish extremist. Problem is the Israeli government does not come down hard on them.
When do you suppose Israel will withdraw from occupied territories? It's been more than half a century.