What's better Sony or Samsung?

Atomicman

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I wanted to buy a monitor either Sony something... (I think the cheapest 17 inch)328$ or the Samsung Syncmaster 755DF for 269$. Both make the resolution 1600x1200 but the Samsung has 66 herz where as the Sony only 60 + the Samsung has only .20Pitch.
Which one would you get?
Or recommend?
 

oleg

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Sony is considered being higher quality. But again, better by little or much, you will end up paying more money cause its a sony.

I have had 3 sony monitors since 1998.

200ES (17")
210GS (17")
and now G400 (19")

Am happy, and don't regret the extra money going for the brand.

BTW, the 6Hz extra on the Samsung won't make any difference. Both CRT's will flicker. 1600X1200 is not for these displays for all day work. For Gaming, that's another subject. If you are planning to use 1600X1200 under windows, then you better look for atleast a 19" solution. (The G400 from sony is one of the top 19" solutions, NEC has also a very interesting product, the FP950)

Oleg,
 

Atomicman

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I know that they're going to flikker but if one does 60Hz at 1600x1280 and the othe 66hz than the Samsung might do 90 at 1280 x980 and the sony 75 or something like that.
Is maying more really worth it?
I 'm mean it's Sony you pay more for everything.
I need it to be 17 inch and it schould make 85 Hz at 1280 x980
 

Atomicman

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By the way why did you have 3 mintors since 98 did they break?
It's just waste of money buying 3 monitors in 2 years!
I have had one 17in since 99 for 209$ but now i need a higher resolution than 1024x768x85hz
 

Comp10

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I hope you don't have to spend much time infront of one of those monitors running at 60hz, because that would surely give you a headache in no time ;). I'm not sure if you have ever used a 17 inch monitor at that high of resolution, but it would be extremely hard to read if your doing any sort of text applications. Even on my 21 inch monitor I can't stand any resolution higher than 1280x1024. So unless you really have a need for that high of resolution, and don't mind getting a headache, I wouldn't worry too much about those high resolution specs. That being said, I would advise getting the Sony, I used to have one of their higher end 17 inch monitors and it was simple amazing, so its quite likely their lower end models are also quite good.
 

Atomicman

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Why is everybody buying Sony?
How are they better than Samsung?
I don't think that you can bearly 1280x980 on 21 inch that's impossible!!!
 

NaughtyusMaximus

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Personally, I think the quality and performance of Samsungs are better than Sony's. I only have personaly experience to back that up with, no hard evidence.
 

LXi

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Atomicman: They're telling you Sony because they own them, and Sony is the only brand they know. Samsung monitors are unsung, its sad to that many people ignore their great offerings. Just to clear things up I own a Sony too and my next monitor will most likely be a Samsung.

I highly recommend the Samsung SyncMaster 700NF if you are going to get a 17", to start things off, its $289, which is quite a lot cheaper than Sony. You can now get $25 coupon and 5% discount if buy from Onvia, and you get it with free shipping. Great deal, you end up paying like $250 for a high end 17" monitor, max res is 1600x1200@75Hz.
 

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I prefer Samsung as well. I might get a 955DF(19", Flatscreen) soon for just $309. I currently have a Samsung monitor and TV, and they seem to be a great value and offer good reliability.
 

Paladinexe

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You won't regret the Samsung. I have the SyncMaster 900SL and I love it. And it's not as good as some of the other Samsung models since it is the short length. I also needed the smaller case to fit my table. I was originally looking at 17 inch monitors and Samsung looked like the "best for the money". Unfortunately they were so popular from the great reviews, that they were sold out everywhere I could afford to drive for a monitor. Anyway, one store had this one 19 inch left and at an attractive price. Really glad I opted for the 19 now.
 

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<< Sony is considered being higher quality. >>


Sony is perceived to be of better quality. However, I've had more problems with Sony than Samsung -- I've owned both.
 

hans007

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Sony is percieved to be better quality, but its just a load of crap because of their brand name. its like buying a mercedes. The e200 is only capable of 1280x1024 @ 75hz which is pathetic for a $300 17&quot; monitor. I was thinking of buying one until i saw that and ended up buying a 19&quot; KDS vs19sn for the same price. If you really want a trinitron get a samsung 700nf with the diamond tron tube and you wont get nearly as screwed.
 

LXi

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<<The e200 is only capable of 1280x1024 @ 75hz>>

You're making me jealous, my 200ES does 1280x1024@60Hz. But come on, 1280x1024@75Hz isnt that bad for a 17&quot;, sure its expensive. 700NF is a great buy.
 

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I've got a Sony CPD-G400 and I can say it's one sweet monitor. The best I've seen period. My Dad has the KDS equal (don't remember the exact model) and my Sony looks brighter and sharper. I should say we do have different video cards so that's not a fair contest either way. All I can say is I'm very happy with my Sony. The picture is excellent, the colors are bright, and the controls are simple. Graphics aside, I will say the controls on the KDS were kind of a pain.

One note of caution... If you plan on using any Trinitron monitor with an ATI Radeon card be aware that there are issues with the Radeon and Trinitron tubes. There's a thread on Rage3D discussing this topic. Anyone who wants more info post a reply and I'll put a link to the thread...

Rob
 

LXi

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<<One note of caution... If you plan on using any Trinitron monitor with an ATI Radeon card be aware that there are issues with the Radeon and Trinitron tubes. There's a thread on Rage3D discussing this topic. Anyone who wants more info post a reply and I'll put a link to the thread...>>

In that case, he should go with Samsung because they dont use DiamondTron instead of Trinitron.

 

AMB

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I have the Sony CPD-G400 and really like it, you cannot go wrong at all
 

troubledshooter

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FACT: Monitors have come a LONG way. My last monitor was a Princeton EO90 (fabulous 19incher in late 97, or early 98, but huge.) I have too owned both Sony and Samsung. My present monitor is a SyncMaster 955sl.

Sl means short length. This is the same as Viewsonic's short depth. The depth of the monitor is greatly reduced for use in cramped areas (like my college hole). I have in fact had to RMA both Sonys and a Samsungs in my time (I worked doing some distribution and testing @ UCLA for awhile) and the odds are in fact in favor of Samsung there. Twice as many problems with the Sony tubes.

I can't stand people who just &quot;think in the box&quot; and go with what everyone else is doing. Read up. Look around. And then buy. The fact of the matter is that ALL the monitors on the market look fabulous (lets not be knit-picky ok?) so check your wallet, and just go look at them. When you see the one you want grab it. You may find that to your eyes the KDS looks the best. Who knows, who cares? Are you embarrassed to tell everyone at work that you bought a KDS monitor because you thought it looked better? Most companies (except princeton, samsung, and a couple of others I don't remember) actaully use the Sony Trinitron tube, so they are essentially identical. This includes such heavyweights as Viewsonic and NEC.

best of luck. (and they are right above, 85hz plus is what I would recommend, I run at 100+ personally)
 

LXi

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<<Most companies (except princeton, samsung, and a couple of others I don't remember) actaully use the Sony Trinitron tube, so they are essentially identical. This includes such heavyweights as Viewsonic and NEC.>>

Not exactly, in fact, most companies DONT use the Sony Trinitron tubes. Let me summarize it for you:

There are only 6 companies in the world, that uses the Trinitron tubes, Sony, KDS, CTX, IBM, ADI and Mag.

And there are a few companies that use the Mitsubishi DiamondTron tubes, including Mitsubishi, Samsung, NEC, ViewSonic, and Iiyama.

To top it off, there are only 11 companies in the world that are currently offering Aperture Grille tube powered monitors.
 

Warrenton

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So whose tubes do ViewSonic use? WHOOPS JUST RE READ THAT!!! THEY AREN'T SONY :)

Personally I use Sony, and always will, and maybe ViewSonic.

I have had too much trouble with the NEC and Hitachi's that I owned for a short while.

Just remember with any Aperature Grille screen, they are sensative to large jolts. Hitting them can break the dampening wires, which is NOT GOOD!!!
 

Huma

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I've been scoping a new 19&quot; for my design work, and the 900nf was dropped from the list of candidates because it can't do a decent refresh at 1600x1200. The G400 pushes 85hz which is good enough. I'm used to 100hz on my LG 795ft at 1152x864.

The Sony G400 also has dual inputs, which can be mighty useful If I want to have a pc and mac rig at home, or need to test another system.