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What's better for medium speed?

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Zenmervolt said:
How much torque and how much resistance?

The issue with V-belts of any sort is the potential for slippage. On the other hand, they are quieter than chains and don't require lubrication.

Have you considered a Gilmer belt instead of a V-belt?

ZV
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BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, that's the funniest thing I've ever read! :awe:

I have a slip on M4 muffler on my bike that is pretty much just a 2" straight through can without any baffles and I can barely hear it over the wind noise at 50mph+ and you expect me to notice the noise my chain is making? Not a chance.
 
JulesMaximus said:
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, that's the funniest thing I've ever read! :awe:

I have a slip on M4 muffler on my bike that is pretty much just a 2" straight through can without any baffles and I can barely hear it over the wind noise at 50mph+ and you expect me to notice the noise my chain is making? Not a chance.
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Belts and chains are used for far more things than the final drives on motorcycles you know.

ZV
 
JulesMaximus said:
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, that's the funniest thing I've ever read! :awe:

I have a slip on M4 muffler on my bike that is pretty much just a 2" straight through can without any baffles and I can barely hear it over the wind noise at 50mph+ and you expect me to notice the noise my chain is making? Not a chance.
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Try using that excuse in an industrial setting. Chains are NOISY.
 
Gillbot said:
Try using that excuse in an industrial setting. Chains are NOISY.
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Yes and they sling grease! Motorcycle chains are TINY little things compared to some of the stuff I've seen.

I've seen the biker types wearing chains as belts around their pants. Kinky.
 
JulesMaximus said:
I know, but why the hell is this in the garage?

I say the OP should hook up an LS-6 with IRS, ABS, and LSD.
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I don't drive so what good would that do me? :\

If only "car stuff" should be posted in this subforum I will block it from showing up and just post in OT from now on...
 
Rubycon said:
I don't drive so what good would that do me? :\

If only "car stuff" should be posted in this subforum I will block it from showing up and just post in OT from now on...
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Nah, it's fine here...as if you need my permission. 😛

Did you get a satisfactory answer to your question at least?
 
Yeah ANY input is always welcome. The more angles and dangles produce a greater meat when on comes the heat. 🙂

JulesMaximus said:
I bet I know more bikers than you do and I've never seen any of them wearing a chain to hold their pants up. 😉
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I'm sure it's for decorative purposes. These were females btw. 😉
 
speaking of cars ... Mercedes uses chains for timing. Just about everyone else uses belts. But, I have no advice about your app.:\
 
PsiStar said:
speaking of cars ... Mercedes uses chains for timing. Just about everyone else uses belts. But, I have no advice about your app.:\
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Why is that? Seems like all the good motors used chains and belts did not come into the picture until the imported tiny engine regime of the early '70s. 😉
 
Rubycon said:
Yeah ANY input is always welcome. The more angles and dangles produce a greater meat when on comes the heat. 🙂
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"The angle of the dangle is proportional to the heat of the meat when combined with the mass of the ass and held constantly" 🙂

I see no reason not to use a V belts and lotsa reason not to use chain. I work with power transmission a bit and use belts on 10hp and bigger motors with out a problem.
 
Rubycon said:
Why is that? Seems like all the good motors used chains and belts did not come into the picture until the imported tiny engine regime of the early '70s. 😉
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Didn't need no seat belt laws or exploding steering wheels that cost a zilion dollars either until those rolling tin can death traps came along. Safety shmafety... You wanna be safe getchya a 67 Dodge Polara. You won't even know you was in a accident till you get home and notice the Honda stuck under the back bumper.



< pulls out lawnchair and warms up stove for popcorn>
 
Rubycon said:
Why is that? Seems like all the good motors used chains and belts did not come into the picture until the imported tiny engine regime of the early '70s. 😉
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I can't answer that, but I wonder if the noise from the smaller aluminum engines versus heavy "GERMAN iron" may have been a big factor. It has only been recent that diesel engines might be called quiet-ish.

Thinking about either drive method a bit & the potential higher HP, I have seen adjustable clutch devices on drives used in large assembly machines. They can give a controlled slip reducing shock on the drive system.

Since OP in The Garage ... you might consider carbon fiber drive shafts. A lot of people put these to save weight on their "rides". They always looked like an torsional rubber band to me. Especially for those who like to drag ... twist it up, then BOING!😱! LOL It is not quite like that, but after market auto stuff like that has little real engineering. Just saying ...

Also, motor controllers are available for larger standard electric 3 phase motors, but I have never used anything over ~50HP. Similar to the servos with less precision of control ... doesn't sound like any kind of precise control is of interest.

Then of course there are the servo-motor drives. I have used 20 HP servo motors which can be liquid cooled & incredibly compact as a result ... just send $$ as they can a bit pricey. Start & stop can be easily controlled ramps; maybe more control than you want.
 
Cycloconversion is an option on larger drives and really a necessity over 1000 hp. On a small 5hp motor, however it's not happening.

Across the line starting however archaic in the day of peak monitoring/billing, is still awesome to experience in person. :awe:

PsiStar said:
I can't answer that, but I wonder if the noise from the smaller aluminum engines versus heavy "GERMAN iron" may have been a big factor. It has only been recent that diesel engines might be called quiet-ish.

Thinking about either drive method a bit & the potential higher HP, I have seen adjustable clutch devices on drives used in large assembly machines. They can give a controlled slip reducing shock on the drive system.

Since OP in The Garage ... you might consider carbon fiber drive shafts. A lot of people put these to save weight on their "rides". They always looked like an torsional rubber band to me. Especially for those who like to drag ... twist it up, then BOING!😱! LOL It is not quite like that, but after market auto stuff like that has little real engineering. Just saying ...

Also, motor controllers are available for larger standard electric 3 phase motors, but I have never used anything over ~50HP. Similar to the servos with less precision of control ... doesn't sound like any kind of precise control is of interest.

Then of course there are the servo-motor drives. I have used 20 HP servo motors which can be liquid cooled & incredibly compact as a result ... just send $$ as they can a bit pricey. Start & stop can be easily controlled ramps; maybe more control than you want.
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