*WhatEver* you do *Don't* buy a Sapphire! WithOUT *knowing* Their RMA Process costs $15

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: thefonz
nvm i looked on bfg website this line is the most curious i find


You assume the risk of loss in transit and the returned Products shall be the sole property of BFG Technologies. BFG Technologies warrants the repaired or replaced Products will be free from defects in material or workmanship.

YOU ASSUME THE RISK OF LOSS IN TRANSIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This wasn't such a good example fonzy. Ask anyone if FS/FT why it's a good idea to use insurance and delivery confirmation when shipping out their goods. There is always a risk of something happening to a package shipped to anywhere, which is why man invented shipping insurance. And it is VERY interesting how you will go out of your way to defend sapphire here when a member tells you he was done wrong, but in the next breathe, hunt down a line of text that means (insure your package) on BFG's site. I'd advise you to be a little more consistent and just look for other BBATI board partner warranties.

I have used BFG for years btw. I only needed to RMA twice through them. Both times were with 5900nu's during that GameVE reseller fiasco. Not only did they replace my card, they upgraded me to a 5900Ultra. Did not cost me a dime. They offered me the option for them to ship first using my credit card. Sent me a new card with a return label inside the box to ship back the damaged card. $0.00 charged to my credit card. BFG rocks real real hard.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

Actually AMD *rescued* ATi before it self destructed ... and got great tech and engineers in the deal
--now they will stand or fall together -- depending on AMD ... not ATi

Hopefully AMD will *shake up* ATi's [former] partners like nvidia IS shaking up and restructuring theirs right now.

My thread is not a *beef* with DAAMiT ... just with Sapphire's "Screw the Customer" RMA policy

THAT and that reason *alone* is an excellent reason to NEVER buy any Sapphire product
--i think Sapphire just lost some future sales by this information being *revealed* tonight

it sure opened my eyes to what a cheapASS company they have become
:thumbsdown:

Yeah but what else is hiding behind other ATI partners warranties? You got time to read all that legalese bull for every potential card purchase? Let alone understand them? I dont. Ultimatly the blame falls on ATI for allowing thier partners to get away with these dishonest practices. 2 year warranty means two years labor and parts under standard use. RMAer pays shiping back the manufacturer and manufacturer pays all repair costs and shipping back to you.

Least thats how 99% of us who have RMA'ed suff grown accustomed too and it's standard everyone knows it. Anyone who deviates from this standard should be called out as you are doing. Not two years but you pay TBD processing fees, shipping both ways etc.. Just screams scammy -trying to get one over- and ATI should not stand for it as it reflects bad upon them as well.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Creig
So exactly what does "fsck" stand for then?

All I was saying is that ranting isn't going to solve anything. If you keep your cool you can sometimes get companies to go the extra mile where shouting and threatening most definitely will not. It's just a matter of getting in contact with a different representative, or possibly a supervisor and pleading your case.

Quit yer sidestepping and looking for something to grab hold of to take attention away from the subject. It's obvious that appopin is not cursing or swearing at anybody in here, but displaying how upset he is without actually using swearing. This is done by changing a single letter in a word to make it not "unpleasant" to read, but still get it's meaning.

OK, i guess some of you younger guys don't know about *fsck*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsck

The system utility fsck (for "file system check" or "file system consistency check") is a tool for checking the consistency of a file system in the Unix system and clones thereof.

Generally, fsck is run automatically at boot time when the system detects that a file system is in an inconsistent state, indicating a non-graceful shutdown, such as a crash or power loss. Typically, fsck utilities provide options for interactively repairing damaged file systems (the user must decide how to fix specific problems), allowing fsck to decide how to fix specific problems (so the user doesn't have to answer any questions), or reviewing the problems that need to be resolved on a file system without actually fixing them.

Fsck can also be run manually by the system administrator if there is believed to be a problem with the file system.

...

Before the rise of journaling file systems, it was not uncommon for an improperly shut-down Unix system's file system to develop a corrupted superblock. This possibly serious problem could only be resolved by running fsck, which could take anywhere from a few seconds to hours, depending on the volume's size. Because of the severity of fsck not being able to resolve this error, the terms "fsck" and "fscked" have come into use among Unix system administrators as a minced oath. When one is told "Go fsck yourself!" the meaning implied is to "go away, analyze yourself, and fix your problems", mirroring fsck's primary function.

The Microsoft equivalent programs are scandisk and chkdsk.

now you know


:light:
Enlightening thread
:sun::moon:


. . . and just *think* a few days ago someone made a thread about *how slow* it was in video

here you go

:laugh:

EDIT: i agree Zebo in that AMD will hear from me on this

it makes them also look bad by association

i HAD to RMA a bbATi Radeon 8500 and there was ZERO prob going thru RMA service thru their New York Service Centre ... i paid shipping to them and they 2nd day Air'd it back at their expense ... no charge for *processing* as it should be and about a 10 day *turnaround* --which is not bad considering it's another country.

Sapphire should go fsck itself
[get it?]

 

[LOUISSSSS]

apoppin i didn't read any of this thread cuz i know you're probably getting sh*tted on like crazy so...

please stop crying about one defective card. the industry is full of them and theres nothing we can do...
yes, they are allowed to ask you to pay any amount they want to replace the card, for all they know you could have broken it yourself...

I, for one, don't really care about 1 x defective card from 1 x manufacturer, AMD has nothing to do with any of this. stop talking out of your ass

 

[josh6079]

Eh, sorry to hear you're having bad luck with Sapphire.

They're policy sounds shaky, that' for sure.

All I know is that they generally make solid cards, ones that typically overclock very well.

Hell, my old X1900XTX even booted up with water on it. It bit the dust once I tried to open a program though........stupid reservoir replacement and my sloppy self got a few drops where there shouldn't be any........

Since then I've had a Sapphire X1900GT that overclocked like mad and now a Sapphire X1900XT. All have been great cards and now that I'm not water cooling anymore I trust their craftsmanship enough to forget about any crappy warranty it has.

I will say though that I would like to see more video card vendors with practices like Powercolor, BFG, and, my personal favorite, EVGA.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
apoppin i didn't read any of this thread ... stop talking out of your ass

That's *obvious*

then your opinion is completely useless
:thumbsdown:

so what's new?


==============

Originally posted by: josh6079
Eh, sorry to hear you're having bad luck with Sapphire.

They're policy sounds shaky, that' for sure.

All I know is that they generally make solid cards, ones that typically overclock very well.

Hell, my old X1900XTX even booted up with water on it. It bit the dust once I tried to open a program though........stupid reservoir replacement and my sloppy self got a few drops where there shouldn't be any........

Since then I've had a Sapphire X1900GT that overclocked like mad and now a Sapphire X1900XT. All have been great cards and now that I'm not water cooling anymore I trust their craftsmanship enough to forget about any crappy warranty it has.

I will say though that I would like to see more video card vendors with practices like Powercolor, BFG, and, my personal favorite, EVGA.

Well, thank-you

my *only* problem with Sapphire is their RMA "screw the customer" policy ...
. . . as i said everything else is *fluff* ... do not lose sight of the "important issue" - how they treat their customers

.... and i just got back from playing a 4+ hour shift of Fable: Lost Chapters ... that game is *awesome* [got it for $10] . . . before tonight i had about 15 hours into it and i got started on ONE quest that lead to another then accidently got back to the MainQuest that left me "hanging" and i just *had* to rescue ... Her ...

battling Hordes of [i don't think they ever stop spawning] Undead ... captured, tortured and made to run for the guards sport ... try to escape and fail and back to torture for another year ... this is one HECK of a game !
:Q

highly recommended and not buggy even though it has never been patched

i am playing it on my 7800GS OC -450/1300, with all setting completely *maxed*, 4xAA/8xAF plus v-synch ... and it looks very very good at 11x8

thank gawd for video games ... i forgot all about Sapphie for 4-1/2 hours



OMG ... i gotta be up for work in about 2-1/2 hours .... !!!!!
:shocked:

thank gawd for caffeine!
:heart:

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers, and late why? Can you name any DX10 game around now? I don't think so. And the warranty policy on board partners have no relationship with ATi, appopin is bashing Sapphire, not ATi, so stop being an nVidia fan boy and look at the reality, one of the best warranty policies belongs to eVGA and BFG, and is not because they are nVidia partner, is because they wanted to.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: apoppin
:thumbsdown:

their x1950p is a defective PoS and they want me to pay to replace it ...
:|

now that is a 'warranty'
:roll:

are there ANY other ATi or nvidia manufacturers that Screw their customers this way?

btw ... the 7800Gs is a real Keeper!

easily o/c's from 400/1250 to 451/1300 and 3DMark05 went up from 5889 to 6419

Sapphire lost a customer and has someone that will talk *bad* about them forever ... their RMA is stupid.

i will get my $15 worth
:evil:

I always found Sapphire customer support to be very good and above all FREE. I have only had to return one Sapphire video card in years and that was a Sapphire 9000.

If Sapphire was that bad then why have I purchased a Sapphire 9200, Sapphire 9600, Sapphire 9600 XT Fireblade, Sapphire x550, Sapphire x700 Pro, Sapphire x800 GTO and Sapphire x1800 GTO without any problems at all!

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Creig
So exactly what does "fsck" stand for then?

All I was saying is that ranting isn't going to solve anything. If you keep your cool you can sometimes get companies to go the extra mile where shouting and threatening most definitely will not. It's just a matter of getting in contact with a different representative, or possibly a supervisor and pleading your case.

Quit yer sidestepping and looking for something to grab hold of to take attention away from the subject. It's obvious that appopin is not cursing or swearing at anybody in here, but displaying how upset he is without actually using swearing. This is done by changing a single letter in a word to make it not "unpleasant" to read, but still get it's meaning.

Here keys, let me explain it to you. When a person takes a word they know to be forbidden by the language filter and changes one letter in it so that the intent is still understood but the language filter no longer catches it, that's called "circumventing the language filter" and I'm sure is frowned upon by Mods. Otherwise, the filter wouldn't be there in the first place, now would it? And I'm sure we all know exactly what apoppin meant when he used it in the context he did.

In your headlong rush to post something sarcastic towards me, you obviously glossed over the part where I was trying to offer apoppin advice on how to possibly get his RMA without paying the additional $15 fee. Which was definitely ON TOPIC.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Creig
So exactly what does "fsck" stand for then?

All I was saying is that ranting isn't going to solve anything. If you keep your cool you can sometimes get companies to go the extra mile where shouting and threatening most definitely will not. It's just a matter of getting in contact with a different representative, or possibly a supervisor and pleading your case.

Quit yer sidestepping and looking for something to grab hold of to take attention away from the subject. It's obvious that appopin is not cursing or swearing at anybody in here, but displaying how upset he is without actually using swearing. This is done by changing a single letter in a word to make it not "unpleasant" to read, but still get it's meaning.

Here keys, let me explain it to you. When a person takes a word they know to be forbidden by the language filter and changes one letter in it so that the intent is still understood but the language filter no longer catches it, that's called "circumventing the language filter" and I'm sure is frowned upon by Mods. Otherwise, the filter wouldn't be there in the first place, now would it? And I'm sure we all know exactly what apoppin meant when he used it in the context he did.

In your headlong rush to post something sarcastic towards me, you obviously glossed over the part where I was trying to offer apoppin advice on how to possibly get his RMA without paying the additional $15 fee. Which was definitely ON TOPIC.

If all you were truly doing was to try and help, then accept my apologies. It's just that it seemed petty to make any comments about the language filter. It was like something was bothering you and you just had to say something about it to let off steam. But, my apologies once again. I had no idea you were helpful.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers, and late why? Can you name any DX10 game around now? I don't think so. And the warranty policy on board partners have no relationship with ATi, appopin is bashing Sapphire, not ATi, so stop being an nVidia fan boy and look at the reality, one of the best warranty policies belongs to eVGA and BFG, and is not because they are nVidia partner, is because they wanted to.

Methinks the lad protests too much.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

if Canadian customer (US$30)

Well, that guarantees a no-purchase for me. It should be less money - ATi is Canadian, damnit - never mind that it should be $0 anyhow.

"Oh hello sir, I see you just bought a new $28,000 car 31 days ago, and it has a 5yr/100km warranty. What's that? Your engine grenaded itself? That's a shame. That'll be $1500 to replace it."



- M4H

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: jim1976

Originally posted by: Zenoth
But personally I prefer PowerColor.

Me too.. I had a 9700pro and a 9800pro. Both were great cards and highly o/cable (beyond the median for the cards)

BTW I think it sucks to charge the customer for the whole process..It's not a matter of money it's a matter of customer service.. Sometimes it's the little things that make the difference..

Well said. I was a bit bent my 360 gave me the 3 lights of death at approx. the 6 month mark, but MS paid for everything including shipping both ways, and of course the retroactive warranty extension from 90 days to 1yr, and refund to anyone who paid the repair fee in that period, was a wise decision for customer relations here in the U.S. too. They learned from their mistake, hope Sapphire does the same.

 

[Steve]

Later I'll take the time to read through this (I am at work). Just a-poppin' in to say that's the way it was when I temped at VisionTek a couple years ago, don't know if it still is. I can understand splitting the shipping, but that $15 fee (or any fee) had better be legit and worthwhile.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers, and late why? Can you name any DX10 game around now? I don't think so. And the warranty policy on board partners have no relationship with ATi, appopin is bashing Sapphire, not ATi, so stop being an nVidia fan boy and look at the reality, one of the best warranty policies belongs to eVGA and BFG, and is not because they are nVidia partner, is because they wanted to.

... *One* ... apoppin waves hand ... CoH is DX10 patched ... as of yesterday

i made it ... 2-1/2 hours sleep and i am leaving for work pretty soon ... i played Fable for TWICE as long [11PM-4:00AM] as i slept [4AM-6AM]
:Q

... that seems about right ... and Fable is *worth* it

ANYWAY ... quite right .... and i have posted this before ... my *issue* ... is with Sapphire's RMA 'rip-off the customer' policy

nothing else ... everything else is 'fluff' in this thread

i do NOT deny that Sapphire has made *great* video cards ... some people have had a "series" of perfect cards with no problem whatsoever ...

BUT ... IF you DO have a problem ... then you *will* get screwed by Sapphire's RMA

IF you don't mind being extorted out of $15 to *process* your RMA then good for you ... i still don't see ANY other major manufacturer of the "stature" of Sapphire that is so cheapASS ... no one has posted ANY links to them

- *i* don't like it one bit .... and that's "why" i started this thread.
:thumbsdown:


i am curious to how they respond to my very negative emails
+++++++++++++++++++++

Originally posted by: Creig
Here keys, let me explain it to you. When a person takes a word they know to be forbidden by the language filter and changes one letter in it so that the intent is still understood but the language filter no longer catches it, that's called "circumventing the language filter" and I'm sure is frowned upon by Mods. Otherwise, the filter wouldn't be there in the first place, now would it? And I'm sure we all know exactly what apoppin meant when he used it in the context he did.

In your headlong rush to post something sarcastic towards me, you obviously glossed over the part where I was trying to offer apoppin advice on how to possibly get his RMA without paying the additional $15 fee. Which was definitely ON TOPIC.

you didn't even *bother* to read my post explaining *fsck* and yet you babble on ... as usual

it is not a language filter defeat [period]

feel free to fsck yourself ... and forget giving me any of your one-sided "advice" as though it were actually useful -- or practical

edit in case you can't *find* it a few posts above --i mean it *this way*:

Before the rise of journaling file systems, it was not uncommon for an improperly shut-down Unix system's file system to develop a corrupted superblock. This possibly serious problem could only be resolved by running fsck, which could take anywhere from a few seconds to hours, depending on the volume's size. Because of the severity of fsck not being able to resolve this error, the terms "fsck" and "fscked" have come into use among Unix system administrators as a minced oath. When one is told "Go fsck yourself!" the meaning implied is to "go away, analyze yourself, and fix your problems", mirroring fsck's primary function.

Re-read the whole thing ... then again ... if you need me to *explain it* ...
:roll:

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers, and late why? Can you name any DX10 game around now? I don't think so. And the warranty policy on board partners have no relationship with ATi, appopin is bashing Sapphire, not ATi, so stop being an nVidia fan boy and look at the reality, one of the best warranty policies belongs to eVGA and BFG, and is not because they are nVidia partner, is because they wanted to.

... *One* ... apoppin waves hand ... CoH is DX10 patched ... as of yesterday

i made it ... 2-1/2 hours sleep and i am leaving for work pretty soon ... i played Fable for TWICE as long [11PM-4:00AM] as i slept [4AM-6AM]
:Q

... that seems about right ... and Fable is *worth* it

ANYWAY ... quite right .... and i have posted this before ... my *issue* ... is with Sapphire's RMA 'rip-off the customer' policy

nothing else ... everything else is 'fluff' in this thread

i do NOT deny that Sapphire has made *great* video cards ... some people have had a "series" of perfect cards with no problem whatsoever ...

BUT ... IF you DO have a problem ... then you *will* get screwed by Sapphire's RMA

IF you don't mind being extorted out of $15 to *process* your RMA then good for you ... i still don't see ANY other major manufacturer of the "stature" of Sapphire that is so cheapASS ... no one has posted ANY links to them

- *i* don't like it one bit .... and that's "why" i started this thread.
:thumbsdown:


i am curious to how they respond to my very negative emails

Dude I thought you were a normal person who at least had some intelligence.

Ok, first off if you do not know the RMA process why did you buy from these people?

Second, the 15$ is for the repackaging of the product. Do you honestly blame them? More morons ship back bad cards due to overclocking or just plain stupidity during the install.

Third, quit bitching it makes you look retarded.

Should I even go into a fourth?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: apoppin
feel free to fsck yourself ...

Well, I guess that ends any thoughts I might have had about helping you further. Nice attitude from a supposedly "Elite Member". :thumbsdown:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: apoppin
feel free to fsck yourself ...

Well, I guess that ends any thoughts I might have had about helping you further. Nice attitude from a supposedly "Elite Member". :thumbsdown:

yep, *fix yourself*

--and quote it in *context*

i will miss you and your fanboy "advice"

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: evolucion8

Originally posted by: Zebo
What a joke. AMD's purchase of ATI looks worse day by day. Not only is ATI a one horse show, late all the time, crappy drivers and now it seems they let thier board partners nickle and dime you to death on warranty work. This crap would never fly with NV.

Poppy I appreciate you informing us how utterly lame thier policy is compared to thier competitors.

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers, and late why? Can you name any DX10 game around now? I don't think so. And the warranty policy on board partners have no relationship with ATi, appopin is bashing Sapphire, not ATi, so stop being an nVidia fan boy and look at the reality, one of the best warranty policies belongs to eVGA and BFG, and is not because they are nVidia partner, is because they wanted to.

... *One* ... apoppin waves hand ... CoH is DX10 patched ... as of yesterday

i made it ... 2-1/2 hours sleep and i am leaving for work pretty soon ... i played Fable for TWICE as long [11PM-4:00AM] as i slept [4AM-6AM]
:Q

... that seems about right ... and Fable is *worth* it

ANYWAY ... quite right .... and i have posted this before ... my *issue* ... is with Sapphire's RMA 'rip-off the customer' policy

nothing else ... everything else is 'fluff' in this thread

i do NOT deny that Sapphire has made *great* video cards ... some people have had a "series" of perfect cards with no problem whatsoever ...

BUT ... IF you DO have a problem ... then you *will* get screwed by Sapphire's RMA

IF you don't mind being extorted out of $15 to *process* your RMA then good for you ... i still don't see ANY other major manufacturer of the "stature" of Sapphire that is so cheapASS ... no one has posted ANY links to them

- *i* don't like it one bit .... and that's "why" i started this thread.
:thumbsdown:


i am curious to how they respond to my very negative emails

Dude I thought you were a normal person who at least had some intelligence.

Ok, first off if you do not know the RMA process why did you buy from these people?

Second, the 15$ is for the repackaging of the product. Do you honestly blame them? More morons ship back bad cards due to overclocking or just plain stupidity during the install.

Third, quit bitching it makes you look retarded.

Should I even go into a fourth?

do you know the RMA policy *details* of EVERY manufacturer you buy from?

i didn't think so

Yes, i DO honestly blame them for it is not a "warranty" if you are charged for *processing*

Then PLEASE Charge me IF i voided the warranty --not just to *look* at it - $15 for processing is a scam
:thumbsdown:

and *don't worry* ... i never thought you were a normal person who at least had some intelligence. ... quit bitching at ME for voicing my and explaining my complaints ... you look even more retarded

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: apoppin
feel free to fsck yourself ...

Well, I guess that ends any thoughts I might have had about helping you further. Nice attitude from a supposedly "Elite Member". :thumbsdown:

it's based purely on content, not quality

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: apoppin
feel free to fsck yourself ...

Well, I guess that ends any thoughts I might have had about helping you further. Nice attitude from a supposedly "Elite Member". :thumbsdown:

it's based purely on content, not quality

how do you know what is is *based on* ?
:Q

--and telling someone who 'thinks' they are "helping" to "fix themselves" is not a bad idea ... especially in this case
:frown:

i guess you never played around in Unix ... not many people here did, i guess

*fsck* got a lot of attention in OT ... years ago

and why do you guys keep up with the personal attacks? are you trying to *divert* attention away from the REAL issue -

Sapphire's Crap "screw their customer" RMA policy

 

[apoppin]

ZZf has actually turned out to be somewhat helpful with sending my receipt in a .doc format ... so i asked them what they think of Sapphire's policy

Hello ZZf Service,

Thank-you !

So far ... i haven't received it in a separate email

It is usual for Sapphire's RMA to charge me a $15 "processing fee" ? ... that seems so wrong and unlike any other manufacturer i have purchased from in the past.

Best regards

apoppin

i wondered what ZZf thinks of it and perhaps they can direct me to ANOTHER manufacturer with these same cheapass RMA *processing fees*

none of you could

i have zero problem with ZZf ... their RMA policiy is clearly stated.
--UNlike Sapphire's
:thumbsdown:

 

[Modular]

Originally posted by: evolucion8

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers

LoLL @ you sir! At least NV can claim that they are the only GPU producer who has a publicly available DX10 card at the time of Vistas launch.

Ati is doing what they always do: wait for NV to pioneer, then add on top of it. Too bad for them they are gonna get destroyed this time around. No matter what R600 has to offer, the mid-range GPU market (where the $$ is made) is firmly in NV's hands.

 

[Mem]

Originally posted by: apoppin
:thumbsdown:



their x1950p is a defective PoS and they want me to pay to replace it ...
:|

now that is a 'warranty'
:roll:


are there ANY other ATi or nvidia manufacturers that Screw their customers this way?

btw ... the 7800Gs is a real Keeper!

easily o/c's from 400/1250 to 451/1300 and 3DMark05 went up from 5889 to 6419

Sapphire lost a customer and has someone that will talk *bad* about them forever ... their RMA is stupid.

i will get my $15 worth
:evil:

I have a Sapphire 9700 card in my backup PC still going strong for many years now,it is kind of bad you have to pay 15 dollars for a return of a faulty card.

I actually got a Leadtek 7800GT factory overclocked card that is not 100% stable in games unless I bring it down(underclock) to very near 7800 default speeds,took me ages to figure out it was the card causing lockups in games,anyway I'm replacing it real soon,can't be bothered to return the 16 month old card back to them.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Modular

Originally posted by: evolucion8

LOLL, that's a good one!! You should check who's the one who got broken driver support for Windows Vista, and then you can say who got crappy drivers

LoLL @ you sir! At least NV can claim that they are the only GPU producer who has a publicly available DX10 card at the time of Vistas launch.

Ati is doing what they always do: wait for NV to pioneer, then add on top of it. Too bad for them they are gonna get destroyed this time around. No matter what R600 has to offer, the mid-range GPU market (where the $$ is made) is firmly in NV's hands.

i am continually *amazed* that ANY thread in Video can easily deteriorate into a ATi Vs. nvidia flamewar with posters *taking sides* purely based on fanboyism

it is NOT about nvidia

it is NOT about ATI

it is NOT about Sapphire's "Quality" or their manufacturing capabilities or that the x1950p IS an awesome GPU

it IS about Sapphires "screw-their-customer" $15 "processing fee" Scam

is it too simple of a subject to stay ONtopic?


anyway i'm off to work and i will not be thinking about Sapphire
[Fable, maybe] ===========

EDIT: WHY, Mem? does LeadTek charge a RMA processing fee? or are you rich enough that you just can throw away the card? ... or disgusted enough?


i AM disgusted enough to toss my new x1950p Sapphire in the trash and just 'cut' my losses.