Valid reason, I have seen firsthand the hardships associated with raising a disabled (mentally & physically) child. It is a lifelong commitment that requires a very special type of person. If she felt she couldn't handle it, I can't really blame her for doing what she did.
she made a very tough decision and i respect her tremendously for it. i have no idea what i would do in her situation (and im glad to see that this thread has not turned into a flamewar)....
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Codewiz
LOL hell no. I am happily married. I haven't moved to that part of my life. Just turned 26 years old and my wife and I don't plan on having kids for about another 4 years.
I don't need that much responsibility in my life right now
Then if she is your friend, you act like a friend and support _her_ decision. IMO, anyhow.
Like I already said, I don't look down at her decision. Have you read the thread? I was just asking what other people would have done. And stating I don't know what i would have done in that situation.
This thread was not to try and find a way to put her decision to shame or anything. It is a tough decision most of us will never make. She did what she felt was the right decision. I support her in that.
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Codewiz
LOL hell no. I am happily married. I haven't moved to that part of my life. Just turned 26 years old and my wife and I don't plan on having kids for about another 4 years.
I don't need that much responsibility in my life right now
Then if she is your friend, you act like a friend and support _her_ decision. IMO, anyhow.
Like I already said, I don't look down at her decision. Have you read the thread? I was just asking what other people would have done. And stating I don't know what i would have done in that situation.
This thread was not to try and find a way to put her decision to shame or anything. It is a tough decision most of us will never make. She did what she felt was the right decision. I support her in that.
And what I posted is my opinion on the matter. If one of my friends had a partial birth abortion, I'd be a friend. If it was my kid, the situation might be a bit different.
And yes, I read most of the thread.
I'm sorry, but I find partial birth abortion to be murder. The baby is fully developed, mostly outside, and then stabbed in the head and the brains are sucked out...that's murder.
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How much experience do you have with severely mentally hanidcapped people? A friend of the family has 2 that he has taken as foster kids. Both are 21 and neither have even developed the mental capacity of a 2 year old, and never will. One just sits there, the other rocks back and forth. All day long.
Well here is my issue. I am atheist. So that leads me to look at nature. Could this kid survive without constant care of a parent for the rest of his life? I would say no. So how is it murder when nature would take care of the problem if the parent didn't remove nature from the picture.
My wife and I are currently pregnant with twin boys (Jack and Evan). We found out at 20 weeks that one of the boys (Jack) has Dandy Walker Syndrome (DWS) and has already sustained significant brain damage (there is less than 50% of the brain matter that there should be) as a result. We were also told that it looked like he had some heart defects as well.
To make a long story short, 7 weeks and many tests later, Jack has been cleared of any heart defect, yet the hydrocephalus (caused by the DWS) is progressive, and damage continues to be done. The plan is to deliver at 32-34 weeks so they can operate on Jack sooner, and still not harm Evan too much with the premature birth.
It's almost a guarantee that Jack will be mentally handicapped, although the extent won't be known for a while.
Terminating the pregnancy was presented as an option, but obviously that would involve losing both babies. Even if there was only Jack in the womb, we would never chose to terminate him. That is not our choice to make, but God's. Our job is to love and comfort Jack, watching God's plan for our son unfold.
It disgusts me that someone could chose to terminate a pregnancy in that scenario. However, is that better than that baby being neglected, abused or left in a dumpster if it wasn't terminated? I don't know.
To make a long story short, 7 weeks and many tests later, Jack has been cleared of any heart defect, yet the hydrocephalus (caused by the DWS) is progressive, and damage continues to be done. The plan is to deliver at 32-34 weeks so they can operate on Jack sooner, and still not harm Evan too much with the premature birth.
It's almost a guarantee that Jack will be mentally handicapped, although the extent won't be known for a while.
Terminating the pregnancy was presented as an option, but obviously that would involve losing both babies. Even if there was only Jack in the womb, we would never chose to terminate him. That is not our choice to make, but God's. Our job is to love and comfort Jack, watching God's plan for our son unfold.
It disgusts me that someone could chose to terminate a pregnancy in that scenario. However, is that better than that baby being neglected, abused or left in a dumpster if it wasn't terminated? I don't know.
someone else, as in the fetus? oh wait i forgot, the fetus isn't alive till it pops out and then *poof* it's alive.
That has nothing to do with it. Having handicapped kids is different than choosing to adopt them. I give that foster parent all the credit in the world, but I wouldn't choose to take on such a burden. But if such a burden was placed on me, I wouldn't kill my own kid just so I can have an easy life.
I don't think you can honestly say that until you're the one making the decision. You need to see something like Fragile X in person first; life is literally a nightmare for both the parents and the child for the duration of the kid's life. I'm not sure what purpose that serves. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
Good response. I always appreciate the amount of thought Pro-Life people put into their stance on other people's decisions.
I just don't feel like arguing about it, I've done it plenty of times before (I think with you quite a few times) and it's just the same argument over & over & over again.
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