What would you do??

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
'They' is used without decent description.

Regardless of the circumstance you're pissed off about an old TV and rollerblades (an your other garbage) that is probably worth less than $53.00.

If you have a problem with religion just make a simple post.

Rogo

It's not about money or religion, it's about hypocricy. I'm with the OP in this one, something should be done.

I would knock on their door, and ask to discuss things. Mention that you know they're a minister, that they're supposed to serve God, and that one of the Ten Commandments is "thou shalt not steal." Tell them that you KNOW they're taking your donation stuff and selling it. Tell them that the donation stuff is meant to help those less fortunate, which is pretty much the FOUNDATION of Jesus' teachings. Stealing those items makes him the worst of sinners.
If he doesn't show any signs of shame, go to the congregation.

 

[Kelemvor]

Set the next batch out for donation. Setup a webcam to record who comes to get it. If someone comes for it that's not the right people, call the cops (it's stealing after all) or just go confront the person. Or if you don't , then watch for the next rummage sale and do it then.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
'They' is used without decent description.

Regardless of the circumstance you're pissed off about an old TV and rollerblades (an your other garbage) that is probably worth less than $53.00.

If you have a problem with religion just make a simple post.

Rogo

Did you even read the post?

Like I said, when asked if she could have something for a specific reason, I had no problem. However stealing my crap, and reselling it for personal profit is not cool with me.

And no, this isn't going to the church. They aren't advertising this as a church yard sale.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
'They' is used without decent description.

Regardless of the circumstance you're pissed off about an old TV and rollerblades (an your other garbage) that is probably worth less than $53.00.

If you have a problem with religion just make a simple post.

Rogo

Please work on your reading comprehension.

 

[moshquerade]

i'd call him on it. just because he is a minister doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.

i wouldn't call him out in front of other people, but he does need to know that you and likely people have noticed he is personally taking advantage of charitable contributions.

 

[Bateluer]

I'd record it and confront the minister about it. If the situation isn't resolved, then elevate the evidence to the church elders.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i'd call him on it. just because he is a minister doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.

i wouldn't call him out in front of other people, but he does need to know that you and likely people have noticed he is personally taking advantage of charitable contributions.

The more I think about it, there is only one thing I worry about.

I have two dogs and when I call him out on this. I don't want some revenge to be going after my dogs.....

 

[PottedMeat]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
Film it, show it to her and ask what her congregation would think (or god for that matter).

If the police don't care / can't legally do anything ( which is probably true ), write a letter explaining what happened and post it in the guy's church.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i'd call him on it. just because he is a minister doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.

i wouldn't call him out in front of other people, but he does need to know that you and likely people have noticed he is personally taking advantage of charitable contributions.

The more I think about it, there is only one thing I worry about.

I have two dogs and when I call him out on this. I don't want some revenge to be going after my dogs.....

what? you think this minister would harm your dogs?

if you are worried about that then you need to go over his head to someone else in his church and report this, and ask to remain anonymous.

wow. :Q

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i'd call him on it. just because he is a minister doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.

i wouldn't call him out in front of other people, but he does need to know that you and likely people have noticed he is personally taking advantage of charitable contributions.

The more I think about it, there is only one thing I worry about.

I have two dogs and when I call him out on this. I don't want some revenge to be going after my dogs.....

what? you think this minister would harm your dogs?

if you are worried about that then you need to go over his head to someone else in his church and report this, and ask to remain anonymous.

wow. :Q

I guess thief by a minister doesn't give you some idea about morals?

If I bust them on this and she looses her job, you don't think they wouldn't think about revenge.

As to remaining anonymous, unless they are stealing from many people, they will know who turned them in.

 

[se7en]

I would have to agree with Mosh on that one. If you are worried about revenge from a minister then yes I would have to do something for sure. If you feel this person has that questionable of a moral ethic they don't need to be in any position to guide or advise people who may be in a vulnerable state of mind.

Stealing an old pair of roller blades and a tv is a totally different thing than physically causing pain / death to a living creature. If you truly think she would go down that road you should seek someone higher up to deal with the issue. It's not really your job to tackle issues like that but to me kinda falls into the bystander effect where you can either do something or just watch.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i'd call him on it. just because he is a minister doesn't mean he's beyond reproach.

i wouldn't call him out in front of other people, but he does need to know that you and likely people have noticed he is personally taking advantage of charitable contributions.

The more I think about it, there is only one thing I worry about.

I have two dogs and when I call him out on this. I don't want some revenge to be going after my dogs.....

what? you think this minister would harm your dogs?

if you are worried about that then you need to go over his head to someone else in his church and report this, and ask to remain anonymous.

wow. :Q

I guess thief by a minister doesn't give you some idea about morals?

If I bust them on this and she looses her job, you don't think they wouldn't think about revenge.

As to remaining anonymous, unless they are stealing from many people, they will know who turned them in.

Do you want to punish her or just have her stop her behavior?

If it's the latter, wouldn't just confronting her about your situation be enough?

If it's the former, I find it difficult to believe that a minister would result to violence like harming/poisoning your dogs.

 

[kranky]

Just to clarify, you are saying that you put items out, marked for the Kidney Foundation, and the minister who has no connection to the Kidney Foundation donations was selling them at a yard sale?

I have to wonder if there is some miscommunication involved, since the point you made is very valid - "do they think I won't notice they are selling my crap 4 houses up the road?" If they were up to no good, I'm sure they would not be so obvious about it.

The key issue to me is that you marked the items for the Kidney Foundation and the minister has no connection to the Kidney Foundation.

I would have no problem asking the neighbor about it if you are sure they had your donated stuff, and I would do so before setting up a "sting" only to find out there's an explanation. "Hey, I had set out some items for pickup by the Kidney Foundation 3 months ago and saw some of them at your yard sale. I was wondering how they got from the Kidney Foundation to you." Don't make accusations, and let the neighbor answer the question. You'll know from the answer what's going on.

I'd hate to make a big scene only to find out that the way the Kidney Foundation handles donated goods is that they designate people to pick up donated items, sell them, and send the money to the Kidney Foundation, and that the designated person in your area is your neighbor with the yard sales.

 

[silverpig]

Steal her car then sell it from your driveway.

 

[alien42]

not to worry, god will forgive her. :evil:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: kranky
Just to clarify, you are saying that you put items out, marked for the Kidney Foundation, and the minister who has no connection to the Kidney Foundation donations was selling them at a yard sale?

I have to wonder if there is some miscommunication involved, since the point you made is very valid - "do they think I won't notice they are selling my crap 4 houses up the road?" If they were up to no good, I'm sure they would not be so obvious about it.

The key issue to me is that you marked the items for the Kidney Foundation and the minister has no connection to the Kidney Foundation.

I would have no problem asking the neighbor about it if you are sure they had your donated stuff, and I would do so before setting up a "sting" only to find out there's an explanation. "Hey, I had set out some items for pickup by the Kidney Foundation 3 months ago and saw some of them at your yard sale. I was wondering how they got from the Kidney Foundation to you." Don't make accusations, and let the neighbor answer the question. You'll know from the answer what's going on.

I'd hate to make a big scene only to find out that the way the Kidney Foundation handles donated goods is that they designate people to pick up donated items, sell them, and send the money to the Kidney Foundation, and that the designated person in your area is your neighbor with the yard sales.

at least around here when you give stuff for such things and the kidney foundation they do sale it at the church. NOT at anyones house.

The church has a big silent auction or sale.


what i would do is mark stuff. set it out. next time they have a "garage sale" go over and look for the stuff. if you find it ask in a loud voice if this is for the kidney foundation. if they say no then ask how the stuff you left out for the kidney foundation got in there garage sale.

do not accuse them of it just ask questions.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Originally posted by: alien42
not to worry, god will forgive her. :evil:

Yep. Christians can do what they want with no penalty, so long as they ask for forgiveness and claim the devil made them do it, but only when they are busted.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: alien42
not to worry, god will forgive her. :evil:

Yep. Christians can do what they want with no penalty, so long as they ask for forgiveness and claim the devil made them do it, but only when they are busted.

yeap.

they can rape and kill 100 children. then 5 minutes before they die they can ask for forgivness and accept the Lord and Boom they get a free pass to Heaven.

but a man who lives how the bible says. one who does everything they can to help others, who lives to help. but does nto beleive in God or Jesus goes to hell.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: kranky
Just to clarify, you are saying that you put items out, marked for the Kidney Foundation, and the minister who has no connection to the Kidney Foundation donations was selling them at a yard sale?

I have to wonder if there is some miscommunication involved, since the point you made is very valid - "do they think I won't notice they are selling my crap 4 houses up the road?" If they were up to no good, I'm sure they would not be so obvious about it.

The key issue to me is that you marked the items for the Kidney Foundation and the minister has no connection to the Kidney Foundation.

I would have no problem asking the neighbor about it if you are sure they had your donated stuff, and I would do so before setting up a "sting" only to find out there's an explanation. "Hey, I had set out some items for pickup by the Kidney Foundation 3 months ago and saw some of them at your yard sale. I was wondering how they got from the Kidney Foundation to you." Don't make accusations, and let the neighbor answer the question. You'll know from the answer what's going on.

I'd hate to make a big scene only to find out that the way the Kidney Foundation handles donated goods is that they designate people to pick up donated items, sell them, and send the money to the Kidney Foundation, and that the designated person in your area is your neighbor with the yard sales.

Your first sentence is correct. I am positive they are not associated with the Kidney Foundation because the first time they came and asked if they could have it. I imagine they do the same everytime but since I am not home, they just assume it is ok to take it. I mean I was nice to them once right.

The kidney foundation is easy to spot because the donations vehicle is marked. And it isn't these people.

As to worrying about my dogs, no I have zero reason to believe they would go to the level of poisoning my dogs but I also didn't think they would steal my crap. Point is that I don't know these people and when people feel they were wronged, will do insane things.

I imagine these people would rationalize everything they are doing. I mean, I bet their kids have inherited some of the things I have put out there.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser

Originally posted by: alien42
not to worry, god will forgive her. :evil:

Yep. Christians can do what they want with no penalty, so long as they ask for forgiveness and claim the devil made them do it, but only when they are busted.

yeap.

they can rape and kill 100 children. then 5 minutes before they die they can ask for forgivness and accept the Lord and Boom they get a free pass to Heaven.

but a man who lives how the bible says. one who does everything they can to help others, who lives to help. but does nto beleive in God or Jesus goes to hell.

This is pretty much irrelevant. I would be just as pissed if it was an atheist up the street doing it.

It just makes the act a bit more ridiculous

 

[JS80]

how do you know he's not donating the cash proceeds to the kidney charity?

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: JS80
how do you know he's not donating the cash proceeds to the kidney charity?

So he takes my stuff that I am trying to get a tax credit for, sells it for cash, then donates said cash. Yeah he is still profiting off my donations......

And do you REALLY think that is case. Come on now.....

 

[krunchykrome]

lol, how often does this guy have a yard sale? Every week?

I would bust him. Go to his next yard sale and ask about the roller skates (or whatever he stole from you). Put him on the spot, and EXPOSE HIM.

 

[Capt Caveman]

OP - I would just go to the minister and ask her why stuff you've left for the Kidney Foundation to pick-up ended up at her own personal yard sale.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: thepd7
Film, post on youtube, sign with link by their church...win?

My thoughts exactly.

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