What Would The US Do.

smashp

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What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
 

DoubleL

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Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
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We have, You can't remember, Also we saw our soldiers killed, Burned and draged through the streets, The pictures are bad but you have to remember it wasn't done by our troops that are in battle over there and I know they would like to get there hands on the ones that started all this, Also none was tortured as far as we know, I will wait to find out more about all of it, As far as your poll we would do as we have always done and called it war
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
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We have, You can't remember, Also we saw our soldiers killed, Burned and draged through the streets, The pictures are bad but you have to remember it wasn't done by our troops that are in battle over there and I know they would like to get there hands on the ones that started all this, Also none was tortured as far as we know, I will wait to find out more about all of it, As far as your poll we would do as we have always done and called it war

oh i Know. We Seiged Falluga and layed the iron fist Down to send a message. Well that was a month long standoff where the true purpose of the operation became lost and options for it to end successfull became Cloudy. The Question is in reguard to Prisoners. The Incident You Refered to Was Awful and demanded military action to quell, but it was a "Lynching" by the populace rather than the Abuse of Four Captured Americans Imprisoned by Iraqi forces.
 

lozina

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From all the captives that the Iraqi insurgents kept so far, I have not heard of any mistreatment. There have been some horrible threats, but they were thankfully never carried out. Will the news of our treatment of prisoners change the way insurgents treat our prisoners?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: DoubleL
Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
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We have, You can't remember, Also we saw our soldiers killed, Burned and draged through the streets, The pictures are bad but you have to remember it wasn't done by our troops that are in battle over there and I know they would like to get there hands on the ones that started all this, Also none was tortured as far as we know, I will wait to find out more about all of it, As far as your poll we would do as we have always done and called it war

oh i Know. We Seiged Falluga and layed the iron fist Down to send a message. Well that was a month long standoff where the true purpose of the operation became lost and options for it to end successfull became Cloudy. The Question is in reguard to Prisoners. The Incident You Refered to Was Awful and demanded military action to quell, but it was a "Lynching" by the populace rather than the Abuse of Four Captured Americans Imprisoned by Iraqi forces.

Well, wich of the captured personel were soldiers?

It was a statement saying "we don't want you here, get the fvck out" made by the citizens of Iraq.

They failed to get the message across, when these "incidents" start happening every week, maybe they will.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: DoubleL
Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
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We have, You can't remember, Also we saw our soldiers killed, Burned and draged through the streets, The pictures are bad but you have to remember it wasn't done by our troops that are in battle over there and I know they would like to get there hands on the ones that started all this, Also none was tortured as far as we know, I will wait to find out more about all of it, As far as your poll we would do as we have always done and called it war

oh i Know. We Seiged Falluga and layed the iron fist Down to send a message. Well that was a month long standoff where the true purpose of the operation became lost and options for it to end successfull became Cloudy. The Question is in reguard to Prisoners. The Incident You Refered to Was Awful and demanded military action to quell, but it was a "Lynching" by the populace rather than the Abuse of Four Captured Americans Imprisoned by Iraqi forces.

Well, wich of the captured personel were soldiers?

It was a statement saying "we don't want you here, get the fvck out" made by the citizens of Iraq.

They failed to get the message across, when these "incidents" start happening every week, maybe they will.

That's just your liberal biased interpretation of those events. The message they were really try to set is "we love Americans, we thank them for liberating us, please take off your coats and make yourselves at home, we want you to stay a while longer!"

sarcasm aside, the real reason behind that 'lynching', as reported by the people who ellegedly carried it out, was in retaliation of Israel's brutal assassination of Yassin.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: lozina
From all the captives that the Iraqi insurgents kept so far, I have not heard of any mistreatment. There have been some horrible threats, but they were thankfully never carried out. Will the news of our treatment of prisoners change the way insurgents treat our prisoners?

If they are smart, they will just hold them, when enough people are captured, just line them up and shoot them, it would cause a massive wave of Americans screaming all the way to the White House to get out of Iraq.

They are fighting for their country, the US soldiers are fighting for... i dunno, to liberate the ones they are fighting?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: DoubleL
Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
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We have, You can't remember, Also we saw our soldiers killed, Burned and draged through the streets, The pictures are bad but you have to remember it wasn't done by our troops that are in battle over there and I know they would like to get there hands on the ones that started all this, Also none was tortured as far as we know, I will wait to find out more about all of it, As far as your poll we would do as we have always done and called it war

oh i Know. We Seiged Falluga and layed the iron fist Down to send a message. Well that was a month long standoff where the true purpose of the operation became lost and options for it to end successfull became Cloudy. The Question is in reguard to Prisoners. The Incident You Refered to Was Awful and demanded military action to quell, but it was a "Lynching" by the populace rather than the Abuse of Four Captured Americans Imprisoned by Iraqi forces.

Well, wich of the captured personel were soldiers?

It was a statement saying "we don't want you here, get the fvck out" made by the citizens of Iraq.

They failed to get the message across, when these "incidents" start happening every week, maybe they will.

That's just your liberal biased interpretation of those events. The message they were really try to set is "we love Americans, we thank them for liberating us, please take off your coats and make yourselves at home, we want you to stay a while longer!"

sarcasm aside, the real reason behind that 'lynching', as reported by the people who ellegedly carried it out, was in retaliation of Israel's brutal assassination of Yassin.

I am no Liberal. The real reason was a message, i don't believe, not for a second that anyone of all of those people there did it for Yassin, they are just tired of having people there who don't belong there, it is not the first time this happens.
 

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We'd mark it up as an isolated event and say it was "abnormal"
That way we don't loose any more faith in us being there in the first place.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: lozina
From all the captives that the Iraqi insurgents kept so far, I have not heard of any mistreatment. There have been some horrible threats, but they were thankfully never carried out. Will the news of our treatment of prisoners change the way insurgents treat our prisoners?

If they are smart, they will just hold them, when enough people are captured, just line them up and shoot them, it would cause a massive wave of Americans screaming all the way to the White House to get out of Iraq.

They are fighting for their country, the US soldiers are fighting for... i dunno, to liberate the ones they are fighting?

That is Hardly the Method or Means i Wish for our Removal from Iraq to Happen.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Klixxer

I am no Liberal. The real reason was a message, i don't believe, not for a second that anyone of all of those people there did it for Yassin, they are just tired of having people there who don't belong there, it is not the first time this happens.

it's according to them, not me

BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 2 (UPI) -- A previously unknown group took Friday claimed responsibility for the gory violence in Fallujah this week that killed four U.S. civilians.

"This is a gift from the people of Fallujah to the people of Palestine and the family of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin who was assassinated by the criminal Zionists," a statement from the "Brigades of Martyr Ahmed Yassin" said.


http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040402-042618-7853r.htm
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: lozina
From all the captives that the Iraqi insurgents kept so far, I have not heard of any mistreatment. There have been some horrible threats, but they were thankfully never carried out. Will the news of our treatment of prisoners change the way insurgents treat our prisoners?

what about the Italian who was executed? or the 4 contractors whose bodies were found in a shallow grave? It took a while to identify the remains. link
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: lozina
From all the captives that the Iraqi insurgents kept so far, I have not heard of any mistreatment. There have been some horrible threats, but they were thankfully never carried out. Will the news of our treatment of prisoners change the way insurgents treat our prisoners?

what about the Italian who was executed? or the 4 contractors whose bodies were found in a shallow grave? It took a while to identify the remains. link

i admit I forgot about that incident with the 4 contractors, but there's no real details on what happened to them based on your link, they could have been killed in the ambush- not necessarily 'executed'.
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: lozina

i admit I forgot about that incident with the 4 contractors, but there's no real details on what happened to them based on your link, they could have been killed in the ambush- not necessarily 'executed'.

yes, i admit I haven't found that much more info since then, except to say they were identified. But if they were killed in the ambush, why drag their bodies to another place and bury them? and why only those 4 bodies?
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: lozina

i admit I forgot about that incident with the 4 contractors, but there's no real details on what happened to them based on your link, they could have been killed in the ambush- not necessarily 'executed'.

yes, i admit I haven't found that much more info since then, except to say they were identified. But if they were killed in the ambush, why drag their bodies to another place and bury them? and why only those 4 bodies?

hmm, yeah that is pretty suspicious to try hiding the bodies. And why wouldn't someone claim responsiblity if it was done by one of the more organized insurgent groups or a terrorist organization, who usually love to claim responsibility o get their messages accross? A big mystery with that incident I wish we knew more about what happened
 

InfectedMushroom

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You guys make me sick.

because we didn't all vote for "nuke'em" like you did?
whatever your response is, i hope you had the same one when you saw the iraqi prisoner photos.
 
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Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You guys make me sick.

because we didn't all vote for "nuke'em" like you did?
whatever your response is, i hope you had the same one when you saw the iraqi prisoner photos.

It's the same response I have to any images of prisoner abuse by anyone. I think the premise of this thread is disgusting. We hear almost daily about how one of our soldiers is killed by a cowardly road bomb, and idiots like smashhp have the audacity to wonder how we'd respond to unfair treatment of our troops. It's sickening to even know somebody who would ask such a question exists.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: smashp
What Would The US Do If We saw pictures of American GIs abused, tortured, Humiliated and forced to perform homoerotic acts by their Enemy captors?
Books, documentaries and even societies have already been devoted to the subject. Reality TV wasn't available during WWII, Korea or Vietnam.

For example, CPT Mike McGrath drew sketches of his experiences while residing in the NVA house of horrors.

You might also read the transcript from "Return with Honor" for more details.

But what did we do? We've attempted to go beyond what happened. In most cases, we've treated EPWs in accordance with international law. Until now, we've given neither the media nor the rabid leftist attack dogs an opportunity to criticize our handling of detainees.

By the way, United Airlines resumed flights to Vietnam a few weeks ago.