What would it take / what would need to happen?

[Synomenon]

What would it take for society to move away from using money / currency? What would we need to do to move away from this system? I'm not talking about moving back to bartering, etc..

Edit:
Changed the question.

 

[tasmanian]

Money is alot more efficient then bartering.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Everyone would suddenly have to be willing to give away their work for nothing to whomever displayed the most need. Their desire to give would have to be completely separate from their opinion of those they gave to, or else high opinion and pursuit of it would become the new currency. Even in this situation need itself, or the appearance of it, could become the new currency. Getting away from money would be difficult, if not impossible, because people would always seek ways to acquire more than their "fair" share, and whatever societal factors there are that can be reliably manipulated to that end in the new system would become the new "money".

 

[Capt Caveman]

You mean communism?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
What would it take for society to move away from using money / currency? What would we need to do to move away from this system? I'm not talking about moving back to bartering, etc..

The only other way I can think of would be working or contributing to society to get "credits" for what you need or want. Some kind of merit based system maybe.

that's what money mostly is.. Society decides how much you contribute to it and pays you money. "credits" is called welfare.

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You mean communism?

Bingo.

 

[Dimmu]

Originally posted by: yamadakun

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You mean communism?

Bingo.

Yeah, I'll pass, thanks.

 

[Synomenon]

So moving to some kind of system that doesn't involve money would be communism? Don't China and Cuba use money?

Either way, it looks like it would be impossible to totally move away from using any kind of currency.

 

[Noobtastic]

wouldn't credits be considered currency?

a thriving, civilized, and powerful society would not survive without some type of wealth measurement. expecting people to work in harmony for nothing..is..well...retarded.

yeah, really retarded.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Star Trek...

 

[SampSon]

"Credits" ARE "money".

 

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
So moving to some kind of system that doesn't involve money would be communism? Don't China and Cuba use money?

Either way, it looks like it would be impossible to totally move away from using any kind of currency.

I'm not familiar with how communism works so if that "system" I mentioned about contributing for "credits" is communism, then ignore that part.

When Cuba converted to Communism, the first thing it did was take away private properties, that's money.

 

[Synomenon]

I'm wasn't familiar with how communism works. Thanks for enlightening me.

 

[lokiju]

The only place this works in is fictions like Star Trek.

 

[SampSon]

We can't "ignore the credits" part. That's like me asking you "ignore the economics" part.

No offence, but this is high school level. Many professors can drag this into collegate level, but that's only to get tenure.

 

[Synomenon]

I wasn't asking or concerned with what level this is in. Just wanted to know what people think.

Yeah it looks like this is only possible on TV.

 

[Judgement]

But then how would we know who is rich/poor so we can discriminate accordingly?

 

[Fenixgoon]

you're going to need some way of relating the value of different objects in the end - money universalizes the process and makes it infinitely more efficient.

 

[Foxery]

World War 3. If every country and every economy is blown back to the stone age, money could become so worthless and pointless that restarting the banking system wouldn't make sense.

I don't think you could gracefully phase it out. The shift in thinking and social values is too great.

BTW, in Star Trek, humans still have some basic sense of money, as they often need to use it to do business with other races who still have a classical economic system. It just isn't important in their day to day lives.

 

[SampSon]

Originally posted by: Foxery
BTW, in Star Trek, humans still have some basic sense of money, as they often need to use it to do business with other races who still have a classical economic system. It just isn't important in their day to day lives.

When people reference Star Trek they ignore the ideal that the vast majority of the show's prospective is from that of the 'Federation'. The Federation is basically a military entity. There is little need to address economic systems in a military setting, especially when you factor in fantasy technology.

The watchers are introduced to other societies economic systems here and there, namely with the ferengi (sp).

Star Trek hardly offers up some views of utopia.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
What would it take for society to move away from using money / currency? What would we need to do to move away from this system? I'm not talking about moving back to bartering, etc..

Edit:
Changed the question.

Why would we want to?

 

[Mill]

You really need to be specific in what you mean. This is such a broad question that is open to multiple interpretations. What, exactly, do you mean?

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
What would it take for society to move away from using money / currency? What would we need to do to move away from this system? I'm not talking about moving back to bartering, etc..

Edit:
Changed the question.

Why would we want to?

Yea I'm still kinda confused about that.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

we could clone hotdogs and use them instead

 

[redgtxdi]

Rev 13:16 He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead,

Rev 13:17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Rev 13:18 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.


Just a little time. No worries......we'll get there soon. :thumbsup: