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What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

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Late 80's/early 90's volvo 740/940. I've put about 10k miles on my 88 745t since i got it
from my parents 3 years ago. The car has never broken down for me, and its never broken
down for them since they got it around 96. You could buy one loaded for like 1500
bucks, and insurance is really cheap. Mine has power sunroof/windows/side view mirrors, heated
seats, leather interior, abs, driver side airbag - and everything still works after 18 years.
Its a cool freakin car even though i'm probably the only 19 year old in the world that thinks so.

And contrary to what everyone would guess, the car is very fast with the turbo, which could be bad thing.
Get her a non-turbo version and she probably wont make it above 30 mph anywhere in town however lol.

 
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Originally posted by: goku
HAHAHAHAHA! LOL, I'm sure safety was saturn's top priority when they were made! :roll: Satruns are anything BUT safe...
Newer Saturns were some of the safest vehicles available when they came out; like my GF's 01 L200. Don't talk our your ass anymore please
My sister was in an accident a few years ago where a van rolled completly over her Saturn and she was fine. She had a couple of bruises from the airbag deployment and went to the hospital just in case, but she could have walked away. Insurance company totaled her car.

As much as I hated to change the oil in that Saturn, it seemed like a pretty safe little car.
 
I say she pays for whatever she gets, you can maybe help her upfront and have her pay part off every month for however long. SUV or a Truck imo is not practical especially with gas prices if she's paying for her own gas, that's going to be bad... My first and current car 01 Mazda Protege, been a pretty good car so far with good gas milage, generally reasonbly priced used. Honda Civic if you can find a good deal buy one of course.

I think saturns that are only a couple years old are actually going for pretty low prices last time I checked, I could be wrong but that might be a decent buy if you get a 2-3 year old car for 7k

VW Bug, not sure if they're reliable. but good safety ratings and I believe and not a particularly fast car.

Also check with your insurrence company on how much it is to insure a car, that can help determine buying as well. Civics might have higher rates due to higher theft, i could be wrong though.
 
I'd have to go with Blue Bird's appropriately labeled "Yellow Dragon."

I allowed my "school-appointed chauffeur" to drive myself and all of my neighbors around throughout high school. I was the envy of all of my friends. Free lifetime gas included with purchase! 😎
 
Originally posted by: newmachineoverlord

Don't assume that vehicle weight is correlated with safety. That's just a weak statistical trend that can't accurately be applied to individual vehicles using currently available data. The correlation is much stronger between vehicle expense and safety, probably because of airbags and the expense of high energy absorbtive lightweight materiels. Nearly all arguments emphasizing the importance of vehicle weight falsely assume inelastic collisions where energy is not absorbed during the collison. This is not the case with auto accidents, huge amounts of energy are spent deforming the frame and crumple zones. Quality design makes a much bigger difference than mere weight.

safety information: "A pound of aluminum can be as much as two and a half times stronger than a pound of typical automotive steel. But because aluminum is less dense than steel, 0.14 pounds per cubic inch versus steel?s 0.28 pounds, aluminum can be used to make cars bigger and safer, not heavier and less responsive."
:roll:

And, then there's reality...

Data obtained by Forbes.com demonstrates that in vehicle-on-vehicle crashes, light trucks, including SUVs, provide a dramatic margin of safety.

Small, light vehicles generally offer less protectionthan larger, heavier ones.
 
would she be considered hot?

if so, get her a 2003 white jetta.

hot girls drive white jettas... and jettas are safe as hell.

i love volkswagens.... i wish i could afford another one. my passat was totalled (my friend totalled it) and the insurance company didn't really give me enough for it.

miraculously, today i found a mint condition 2000 volvo s40 that i'm probably gonna buy with the money geico gave me... it's sooooo nice.
 
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: newmachineoverlord

Don't assume that vehicle weight is correlated with safety. That's just a weak statistical trend that can't accurately be applied to individual vehicles using currently available data. The correlation is much stronger between vehicle expense and safety, probably because of airbags and the expense of high energy absorbtive lightweight materiels. Nearly all arguments emphasizing the importance of vehicle weight falsely assume inelastic collisions where energy is not absorbed during the collison. This is not the case with auto accidents, huge amounts of energy are spent deforming the frame and crumple zones. Quality design makes a much bigger difference than mere weight.

safety information: "A pound of aluminum can be as much as two and a half times stronger than a pound of typical automotive steel. But because aluminum is less dense than steel, 0.14 pounds per cubic inch versus steel?s 0.28 pounds, aluminum can be used to make cars bigger and safer, not heavier and less responsive."
:roll:

And, then there's reality...

Data obtained by Forbes.com demonstrates that in vehicle-on-vehicle crashes, light trucks, including SUVs, provide a dramatic margin of safety.

Small, light vehicles generally offer less protectionthan larger, heavier ones.

So let me get this straight. BIG vehicles offer the most protection. Well spank my ass and call me Charlie. Let's not also forget that SUVs and pickups have a higher center of gravity, are poorer handlers, and get much worse gas mileage than your typical small car or sedan.

I'm sorry that you want to go through life driving land barges b/c that's the only way you feel safe. Small and mid-size cars can be made to be safe.

2001 Civic:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=34

2001 Crown Vic:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=215

Top rated cars for safety:
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛

 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛

i knew that was coming up...
 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛
*falls into place*

😀

 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛

I hope that's not the same treatment that your daughter gets:shocked:















😉
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛

I hope that's not the same treatment that your daughter gets:shocked:















😉
booooo... that you even thought that.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛
*falls into place*

😀


*warms up hand*

😀

 
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛
*falls into place*

😀


*warms up hand*

😀

Do you two need a room?
 
Better than 50% of the links I supplied in this topic are from IIHS.

50% of the lugnuts posting, completely ignored the safety specification of the OP. The other 49% have no idea there are different classes of vehicles, and that safety ratings of different classes can't be compared.

The laws of physics dictate that, all else being equal, larger and heavier vehicles are safer than smaller and lighter ones. In relation to their numbers on the road, small cars have more than twice as many occupant deaths each year as large cars," says an IIHS report.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: aircooled
What would get your 16 year old daughter as a first car?

Still have one year to go. What is an affordable yet safe car for a 16 year old? Drivers side airbags a must.

BTW- no pics you pervs.

will you be my dad? 🙂

Yes! and you've been a bad bad girl and need a spanking! 😛

I hope that's not the same treatment that your daughter gets:shocked:















😉
booooo... that you even thought that.

i thought that, too.
 
the first car is gonna get beaten the most, so might as well get her a used car and not have to worry when she comes back next week having rear ended something. Also, start her out on stick. It's a good life skill to have. I would personally get a 16 year old an echo, neon, mini cooper, or civic, as those are easy to drive and maintain. Extra points for the echo because they turn really easily and are easy to parallel park with.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Better than 50% of the links I supplied in this topic are from IIHS.

50% of the lugnuts posting, completely ignored the safety specification of the OP. The other 49% have no idea there are different classes of vehicles, and that safety ratings of different classes can't be compared.

The laws of physics dictate that, all else being equal, larger and heavier vehicles are safer than smaller and lighter ones. In relation to their numbers on the road, small cars have more than twice as many occupant deaths each year as large cars," says an IIHS report.

So b/c Americans want to drive big bloated SUVs and pickups to work and to the mall, the rest of us should buy big bloated SUVs and pickups to counter them?

The trend should be to smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, not big-assed land yachts. Seems to work perfectly fine in Europe. Maybe we need $6 a gallon gas to get Americans to stop thinking that bigger is better.
 
Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Nothing, and I mean it. Unless she absolutely needs it (can't get to school without it- bus), then don't give her one. She needs to earn it, otherwise she will have no respect for it.

My god, I agree with so much of what this man says.

Buy her a nice bicycle instead, and encourage her to use it and use it often.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4

So b/c Americans want to drive big bloated SUVs and pickups to work and to the mall, the rest of us should buy big bloated SUVs and pickups to counter them?

The trend should be to smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, not big-assed land yachts. Seems to work perfectly fine in Europe. Maybe we need $6 a gallon gas to get Americans to stop thinking that bigger is better.
Move over gas guzzlers, small cars are coming
  • The deadly potential of small cars isn't, as many people fear, because big SUVs crash into them.

    Instead, 41.5% of small car deaths in 2004 were single-vehicle accidents, according to the NHTSA data. Another 6.1% of small-car deaths were from small cars crashing into one another. So nearly half of small-car fatalities involved just small cars.

    Small cars simply lack the size to provide generous crash-absorption structures and lack the heft to prevent them from rebounding in neck-snapping fashion when they do collide with bigger machines.
Washington's War on Sport-Utility Vehicles
  • So the statistics show. In 1996, 41,207 people died in traffic accidents, 35,579 of them within their vehicles. Crashes between LTVs and cars resulted in 5,259 fatalities. Of these, 81 percent, or 4,260 fatalities, occurred in the cars. Clearly, the passengers in the larger vehicles came out ahead. But that doesn?t make the LTVs the villains of the piece. Because it?s not just the mismatch in size that makes cars less safe. Fatal crashes between two cars caused 4,013 deaths, while LTV-LTV crashes resulted i n far fewer fatalities: 1,225. Even if we correct for the difference in the numbers of each type of vehicle on the road, it seems obvious that if everyone drove an LTV, far fewer bodies would be hauled off the nation?s highways every year.
 
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