What will Trump's infrastructure bill look like? [Poll]

[Brainonska511]

Now he's threatening to veto the omnibus spending bill if it includes any funding for Gateway: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/08/trump-gateway-funding-veto-445926

What a loser. A critical national infrastructure project for a region that generates ~10% of the country's GDP is in jeopardy because of this idiot.

And then, to top it off, the idiot transportation secretary claimed that this kind of approach is okay because NY and NJ don't have enough "skin in the game" - as if paying for half isn't enough... (and ignoring the critical nature this project is to not just NY & NJ, but the greater region and the country as a whole...)

 

[K1052]

Schumer is never going to give him wall money for Gateway. To demand this shows how little Trump actually understands the situation in Congress.

Also he now owns the coming Amtrak tunnel shutdown since NJ/NY pols of both parties will be super eager to show angry constituents how he kneecapped the deal.

 

[urvile]

I envision 60 foot high solid gold statutes of trump. Erected in the CBD of every US capital. School children will be forced to make annual pilgrimages to gaze upon his royal greatness. Cast in 24 karat gold. Ostentatious. Oh yeah.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I envision 60 foot high solid gold statutes of trump. Erected in the CBD of every US capital. School children will be forced to make annual pilgrimages to gaze upon his royal greatness. Cast in 24 karat gold. Ostentatious. Oh yeah.

Sir here's the statue you requested.

 

[Bitek]

Is it infrastructure week again yet?

Looking like option #5 (Trump removed from office first) is becoming a real possibility.

Even if Ds take the house, hard to see any movement on this given the climate and budget deficits running over $1T already.

What a disaster

 

[zinfamous]

I think he's going to focus all infrastructure funds into prison reform and making sure all federal cells are nice and cushy, with cable TV and excellent bandwidth in every cell.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I think he's going to focus all infrastructure funds into prison reform and making sure all federal cells are nice and cushy, with cable TV and excellent bandwidth in every cell.

 

[Indus]

I think he's going to focus all infrastructure funds into prison reform and making sure all federal cells are nice and cushy, with cable TV and excellent bandwidth in every cell.

I'm willing to bet he leaves for Russia before that.

 

[Bitek]

I think he's going to focus all infrastructure funds into prison reform and making sure all federal cells are nice and cushy, with cable TV and excellent bandwidth in every cell.

You win the thread!

 

[Bitek]

Another bump for a necro policy. However, Trump is still POTUS, and this was a major campaign promise that is yet to be fulfilled.

Initial poll results taken in year 1 of Trump admin.

• Large bipartisan effort to modernize public roads/ports
  Votes: 1 2.0%
• *Small bipartisan bill of limited scope and spending
  Votes: 2 4.1%
• Bare majority, smattering of public works, mostly a giveaway to privatize roads and tollways
  Votes: 24 49.0%
• Boondoggle that never makes it out of Congress
  Votes: 16 32.7%
• President is removed from office first
  Votes: 6 12.2%

Perhaps with a new Congress, we need a new poll.
With Ds taking the house, I think we can call GOP privatization and tollway proposals dead and buried.

Incoming Ds have expressed interest in doing infrastructure spending. Since they control the house agenda, they can actually push and shape the issue to give it the life Paul Ryan never did.

Question is, is Trump too toxic to cut a deal with? Will the Russia and other investigations take all the oxygen from DC, and we never get a bill?

My original vote was for a small bipartisan bill.

I don't see a large one happening as it's too much of a win for Trump, but a small one can give everyone something to be happy about.

 

[K1052]

At this point the problem is going to be somehow assuring that money appropriated is actually spent in the way the parameters of any deal dictate. There are multifold ways that the administration can fuck over any agreement made in the dispensing of potential cash. When you lie, cheat, or backstab almost every time oddly people grow to not trust you. They may have to bring back earmarks and do the whole thing that way for anything to happen.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, the sacred Wall! is infrastructure, isn't it?

 

[soundforbjt]

Well, the sacred Wall! is infrastructure, isn't it?

Didn't he say today it will be steel now and help the steel companies? I'm sure that will change in a few hours.

 

[woolfe9998]

What infrastructure bill?

 

[IronWing]

Didn't he say today it will be steel now and help the steel companies? I'm sure that will change in a few hours.

It might have to be steel. The largest concrete manufacturer in the southwest is CEMEX and they already said that they won't provide concrete for the wall.

 

[Jhhnn]

It might have to be steel. The largest concrete manufacturer in the southwest is CEMEX and they already said that they won't provide concrete for the wall.

CBP doesn't want a solid wall because they can't see what's happening on the other side.

 

[IronWing]

CBP doesn't want a solid wall because they can't see what's happening on the other side.

Border Patrol doesn't look anyway. If Border Patrol wants to know what's happening at the border maybe they could waddle their butts down to the border at have a look instead of harassing Americans a hundred miles from the border.

 

[Jhhnn]

Border Patrol doesn't look anyway. If Border Patrol wants to know what's happening at the border maybe they could waddle their butts down to the border at have a look instead of harassing Americans a hundred miles from the border.

I'm sure they can be a PITA at times but that doesn't mean they aren't doing the job.

 

[IronWing]

I'm sure they can be a PITA at times but that doesn't mean they aren't doing the job.

They aren't doing the job as well as they could given the vast resources they have been allotted. President McKinley gave them a 60 foot easement along the border. I think that was good enough for a hundred plus years and good enough now.

 

[Jhhnn]

They aren't doing the job as well as they could given the vast resources they have been allotted. President McKinley gave them a 60 foot easement along the border. I think that was good enough for a hundred plus years and good enough now.

Those decisions are way above the pay grade of the people who aren't getting paid.

 

[ivwshane]

So far the patient hasn't accomplished shit except for getting a sc justice. Other than that, the only thing he seeks good at building is cluster fucks. So I don't expect any infrastructure bill.

Other than my horrible auto correct word substitutions, I must say, I was right on the money

I win and yet we all lose.

 

[Vic]

It looks like it's non-existant.

 

[Brainonska511]

At this point the problem is going to be somehow assuring that money appropriated is actually spent in the way the parameters of any deal dictate. There are multifold ways that the administration can fuck over any agreement made in the dispensing of potential cash. When you lie, cheat, or backstab almost every time oddly people grow to not trust you. They may have to bring back earmarks and do the whole thing that way for anything to happen.

Yep, I remember seeing some stories over the summer of the Department of Transportation is slowing the release of transit funds:
https://www.citylab.com/transportat...nsit-fund-the-government-wont-release/567467/

Overall, it sounds like Congress is going to have to investigate the impoundment going on, as the executive does not have the authority to impound funds per the 1974 Budget & Impoundment Control Act.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yep, I remember seeing some stories over the summer of the Department of Transportation is slowing the release of transit funds:
https://www.citylab.com/transportat...nsit-fund-the-government-wont-release/567467/

Overall, it sounds like Congress is going to have to investigate the impoundment going on, as the executive does not have the authority to impound funds per the 1974 Budget & Impoundment Control Act.

Don't need no soshulist Transit!

 

[Bitek]

What infrastructure bill?

Good question. Exactly, what bill?

Thread Cliff notes:
Massive investment in rebuilding infrastructure was a central campaign promise Trump made, and a major pillar of maga.
https://www.minnpost.com/politics-p...omises-rebuild-america-s-infrastructure-what/

If you recall his tales of how shitty everything in the US was, eg how our airports/roads are crap compared to everyone else, but Trump was a fantastic builder and he would rebuild so much and it would be amazing, blah blah.

Gets into office, promises a $1T infrastructure bill, even Ds get excited,...
but then drops a Paul Ryan privatization and toll road bill, with little contribution from the Fed gov.

Goes over like a lead balloon and dies quickly.

Trump had yet to come back to his promise, and focused his energy and capital on being racist and the fucken Wall.

Roads and bridges are still in need of investment.

Now with infrastructure-loving Ds taking the house, Paul Ryan sent packing, question is if this effort gets revived in the new Congress?

Will Trump try to fulfill this campaign promise, or are relations irreparably broken?