What will Trump's infrastructure bill look like? [Poll]

[Phokus]

Trump's infrastructure bill will look like what i left in the toilet this morning, i guarantee it

 

[Puffnstuff]

More information on Trump's plan emerges as his administration tries to pawn this one off on states and the private sector.

 

[ivwshane]

Raising the tax on gas, while, I approve, is a losing proposition. As more people move to electric or hybrid vehicles the pool of people paying a gas tax will shrink. This shrinking pool of users will then result in the tax being raised again and even more people switching to electric vehicles. The sooner we get away from fossil fuels the better, for the environment and that's why I support the tax. However, it won't do any good for its intended purpose which was to maintain and build roads and things will continue to get worse.

Just another policy that wasn't well thought out.

 

[soundforbjt]

The gas tax will get passed down again when shipping costs go up and stores increase prices. So much for the tax cuts for the little guy.

 

[kage69]

Looks like Dump and the Banana republicans found another critical issue to not take seriously and treat like a joke.

Private investment? For this? What a crock of shit.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Private investment?

Well if they follow the pattern that Russia and China have with investing in Trump properties they might get somewhere.

 

[Bitek]

Raising the tax on gas, while, I approve, is a losing proposition. As more people move to electric or hybrid vehicles the pool of people paying a gas tax will shrink. This shrinking pool of users will then result in the tax being raised again and even more people switching to electric vehicles. The sooner we get away from fossil fuels the better, for the environment and that's why I support the tax. However, it won't do any good for its intended purpose which was to maintain and build roads and things will continue to get worse.

Just another policy that wasn't well thought out.

I'd rather just see it come out of the general fund as there is no way to have it really keep pace with inflation or technological change.
Plus it's an excuse to not spend on infrastructure. Can you imagine the military budget if we had direct user fees? Who would have supported invading Iraq if they had to cut a $10,000 check?
I'd rather reverse the two.

I don't like the regressive nature of the tax, esp when it's the little guy who's really suffering.

Also, many/most businesses benefit from a efficient transportation network, but not all directly contribute.

Lastly, as far as pushing electrification of transportation, $0.25/g isn't enough to move the needle. Just enough to pinch pockets.

 

[Bitek]

Trump releases his budget. $178B in transportation cuts... There it is in writing folks.

This is a privatization scam through and through.

 

[K1052]

The gas tax will get passed down again when shipping costs go up and stores increase prices. So much for the tax cuts for the little guy.

States have been ramping fuel taxes for years and will do more as federal money continues to dry up. Vehicle registration fees too.

 

[Puffnstuff]

States have been ramping fuel taxes for years and will do more as federal money continues to dry up. Vehicle registration fees too.

Don't forget increasing property taxes as well.

 

[HomerJS]

This week is the official rollout of the plan.

There is still great skepticism on the funding for it and doubts whether much will materialize.

Recall that only $200B of the $T1.5 is proposed to come from Washington, 80% from states and cash strapped cities.

The $200B is not new federal spending, it comes from other infrastructure programs like already dangerously underfunded Amtrak.

Meanwhile, the $25B in Wall money is new spending, so in effect Trump/GOP will spend more new money on the wall than all the roads and bridges in the nation, and worth 12% of all infrastructure spending. Conservatives wonder why liberals are so against it...

Even

Looks like many of us nailed it before their announcement.

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...l-look-like-poll.2502541/page-2#post-39285436

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...l-look-like-poll.2502541/page-2#post-39281825

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...l-look-like-poll.2502541/page-2#post-38939738

 

[Bitek]

Trump has come out to endorse the $0.25/g gas tax hike to get some more new money to spend.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/trump-reportedly-endorses-25-cent-hike-in-gas-tax.html

As in my earlier post, this is a $300 tax increase per household. This will wipe out the Trump tax cuts effect for a significant % of all households, and a net tax increase for millions of those.

Basically any household under $50k gets screwed.
Median us household income is $59k.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump has come out to endorse the $0.25/g gas tax hike to get some more new money to spend.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/14/trump-reportedly-endorses-25-cent-hike-in-gas-tax.html

As in my earlier post, this is a $300 tax increase per household. This will wipe out the Trump tax cuts effect for a significant % of all households, and a net tax increase for millions of those.

Basically any household under $50k gets screwed.
Median us household income is $59k.

That's our Donald- always looking out for the little guy.

 

[Bitek]

That's our Donald- always looking out for the little guy.

One day.. Trump voters be like:

 

[Jhhnn]

One day.. Trump voters be like:

That day can't come too soon.

 

[Brainonska511]

One day.. Trump voters be like:

It's missing the next frame: "but he makes liberals so mad, and I like that..."

 

[Puffnstuff]

I like this one.

 

[Bitek]

That day can't come too soon.

It took W voters all the way to 2006... So don't hold your breath waiting

 

[Brainonska511]

So not only is the proposed "infrastructure bill" a piece of shit, Trump is apparently actively trying to kill needed infrastructure projects: WaPo

President Trump is pushing congressional Republicans not to fund a crucial infrastructure project — a long-delayed plan to build a new rail tunnel between Manhattan and New Jersey — setting up a confrontation that could complicate passage of a massive government spending bill this month.

Trump personally appealed to House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) this week to target federal funding for the $30 billion Gateway project, which would construct a tunnel into New York’s Penn Station to supplement two aging tubes that are at risk of failing in the coming years.

The project is widely considered to be among the most pressing and most expensive infrastructure needs in the country, and state and local leaders have long sought federal funding to jump-start work on it. But the Trump administration threw the project into doubt late last year by casting aside an agreement reached during the Obama administration that would have the federal government pick up half the project’s cost.

 

[Jhhnn]

Rich people need tax cuts more than the Country needs infrastructure. It will all trickle down. Everybody knows this.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Rich people need tax cuts more than the Country needs infrastructure. It will all trickle down. Everybody knows this.

Speaking of trickling down.....

 

[Bitek]

So not only is the proposed "infrastructure bill" a piece of shit, Trump is apparently actively trying to kill needed infrastructure projects: WaPo

What is he doing, another hostage taking move?

 

[K1052]

So not only is the proposed "infrastructure bill" a piece of shit, Trump is apparently actively trying to kill needed infrastructure projects: WaPo

Remaining NJ house republicans are totally stoked about this strategy to get back at Schumer lol.

 

[K1052]

What is he doing, another hostage taking move?

He’s mad at Schumer and the Dems for bottling up some of his confirmations, like the GOP did to Obama. I would not want to emblazon my already hated name on a situation that will some day soon explode into a tsunami of negative press...

 

[Bitek]

He’s mad at Schumer and the Dems for bottling up some of his confirmations, like the GOP did to Obama. I would not want to emblazon my already hated name on a situation that will some day soon explode into a tsunami of negative press...

Ah, another lesson in responsible governance by the choas party.