what will happen if california legalizes marijuana in 2010?

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Saint Nick

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I don't understand how anyone can tell me what I can or cannot put in my body. Who cares if it causes cancer, or helps people -- it is my body and I should be able to do as I please with it.
 

ebaycj

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Fair enough. The costs do come down quite a bit when the drug patent expires. For something like cocaine, we could probably expect the prescription cost to be higher than current illegal costs but a legal non-prescription cost would probably be lower before taxes.


Maybe, maybe not. Drinks like Red Bull have about 5 cents worth of caffeine based on the price of caffeine pills yet they sell for more than $3 per can. If you include the cost of the can and the drink inside, that's still a markup of several thousand percent.
You probably remember people talking about ethanol fuel for cars and how it would be around $3 per gallon.... well how much is ethanol in the liquor store? Several thousand percent more expensive than $3 per gallon.
A pack of cigarettes apparently costs about 10 cents to produce, but where I live they cost over $10 per pack to buy. Again, that's several thousand percent markup for a legal product.

I guess the only thing legalizing stuff does is make it legal. Cost is still brutal.

A lot, and I do mean a LOT of that is tax. Probably on the order of $7.50 of that is tax.
 

DucatiMonster696

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I don't understand how anyone can tell me what I can or cannot put in my body. Who cares if it causes cancer, or helps people -- it is my body and I should be able to do as I please with it.

Until your ass passes the medical costs of taking care of yourself onto the tax payers because you smoked yourself into unemployment. Liberals love to play this double sided card, "Its my body but I want the tax payers to foot the medical costs because all health care should be "free" (as in those who pay taxes should foot the bill) even though I don't take care of myself."
 

Brovane

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Until your ass passes the medical costs of taking care of yourself onto the tax payers because you smoked yourself into unemployment. Liberals love to play this double sided card, "Its my body but I want the tax payers to foot the medical costs because all health care should be "free" (as in those who pay taxes should foot the bill) even though I don't take care of myself."

Do a Sin tax like we do for Cigarettes and Alcohol. They both damage your body and incresae medical costs. Should we also limit all cars and motorcycles to a top speed of 80mph since there is no reason for you to go faster than this? If you go faster you might injure yourself and then the tax payers might have to foot the bill.
 

fskimospy

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Until your ass passes the medical costs of taking care of yourself onto the tax payers because you smoked yourself into unemployment. Liberals love to play this double sided card, "Its my body but I want the tax payers to foot the medical costs because all health care should be "free" (as in those who pay taxes should foot the bill) even though I don't take care of myself."

How exactly is someone 'smoking themselves into unemployment'? Do you support banning the sale of alcohol? Of cigarettes?
 

bfdd

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I smoke weed probably every day. I wake up and get to work on time and I don't slouch or get high when I go to work. There are tons of people like me. I have a friend who is going to UCLA and getting excellent grades and I have never met anyone who smokes as much weed as him. Another one of my friends is a very good and successful DBA he too smokes weed. People who want to be losers are going to be losers with or without marijuana. People who want to succeed will succeed with or without marijuana. It's the person not the drug.
 

Vic

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LOL because everyone who tries pot by definition ends up ruining their lives?

Of course, just like how every person who tries a single beer just once ends up a raging alcoholic for the rest of their lives!
 

Vic

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The correct answer BTW is that nothing will happen except some Humboldt county pot growers will see in a decline in profits.
 

Vic

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1. I hope it passes so that there are less lazy pot-heads around here.
2. I hope it doesn't pass because it means that MORE of my tax money will probably end up going to helping stupid people.

Yes, because drug enforcement is a small govt policy that costs nothing while successfully keeping people from doing illegal drugs in the first place.

WTF. What legalization means (in part) is that your tax money currently wasted on the drug prohibition while doing absolutely fucking nothing to curtail drug use can now be spent somewhere more worthwhile and productive. Ending the drug war will greatly save the taxpayers money, not cost it.
 

kurtist

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This is a really tough and complicated subject and i for one feel it will take greater self control of the individual to have marijuana legalized and what i think more of is our government has no confidence in it's common citizen with all the problems w opiates cocain methamphetamine alcohol prescription drugs all being abused very heavily. I do beleive however marijuana in its natural form is the most organic natural substance known to man. But like anything can be abused. I also beleive the government makes and distributes money in ways for the eradication/ control of marijuana that it does not want to give up example marijuana's legal ok layoff 100,000 dea agents and i belevie it would trickle down to local and state agency's and every county /state actually makes out w fines and court costs with it illegal so they say tax it ok who wants to buy it when everybody finds out how easy it is to grow? dont think big daddy aint thought of that so know we can buy it would the state goverment crack down on growing cause of tax revenue see they want there money too maybe we could go to the court house and apply for a 10 plant harvest for a 200 buck permit who knows but id like to see where it goes and visit califonia when its legal and say stick it tennessee and big daddy g-man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

kurtist

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I too am a very hard worker kept a job since i've been 15 i'm 32 now smoked everyday till about 5 years ago when the job i have required randoms so every now and again i splurge but i do like to smoke and drink and i dont drink much cause i don't smoke much just my combination think i'll be an old man before i see it legal in TN though maybe it's time for a new spot.
 

ebaycj

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I smoke weed probably every day. I wake up and get to work on time and I don't slouch or get high when I go to work. There are tons of people like me. I have a friend who is going to UCLA and getting excellent grades and I have never met anyone who smokes as much weed as him. Another one of my friends is a very good and successful DBA he too smokes weed. People who want to be losers are going to be losers with or without marijuana. People who want to succeed will succeed with or without marijuana. It's the person not the drug.

Another one of those, checking in right here.
 

ShawnD1

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Fixed it for you.
A more accurate prediction: hardcore black market business men buy huge amounts of legal drugs in California then sell it outside of California.

Actually that's the logic behind me wishing my province would legalize and tax the hell out of all drugs. People from other provinces or countries would come here to get totally blitzed on coke, blow all of their money in our casinos, then go back home nearly bankrupt. I'd love it. Nevada works on that same basic idea (legal prostitutes and gambling).
 

Ns1

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Another one of those, checking in right here.

The problem is there are ton's of douchebag pot smokers out there who give the rest of us a bad name.


Of course, what non-smokers fail to realize is that these people would be douchebags with or without marijuana. If it weren't for marijuana, it'd be WoW, MW2, ATOT, MySpace, <insert addiction to ruin your life here>, whatever.


Smoking is SO PREVALENT in white collar circles you people don't even know
 

RyanPaulShaffer

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Nothing will change. Half of California is already chillin' with Puff the Magic Dragon anyway, so the only difference will be that they won't have to poorly attempt to hide their altered state of mind. Oh, and Cheetos stock will rise considerably now that they don't have to hide their sudden case of the munchies.

I do foresee one positive side effect though. Perhaps we will see less unfunny pot gags in movies now, because Hollywood tends to think "taboo" subjects are funny. /shrug
 

TechBoyJK

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Until your ass passes the medical costs of taking care of yourself onto the tax payers because you smoked yourself into unemployment. Liberals love to play this double sided card, "Its my body but I want the tax payers to foot the medical costs because all health care should be "free" (as in those who pay taxes should foot the bill) even though I don't take care of myself."

Oh, so you don't drink or smoke cigarrettes right? Because those are alot worse than weed.
 

TechBoyJK

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A lot more people that have never tried smoking pot would decide to give it a shot. And end up ruining their lives.

Reality Check.

It's so easy to get, that if you wanted to try it, you already would have.

And no, smoking pot doesn't ruin lives. If you believe that, you are a text book fool.
 

fskimospy

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Nothing will change. Half of California is already chillin' with Puff the Magic Dragon anyway, so the only difference will be that they won't have to poorly attempt to hide their altered state of mind. Oh, and Cheetos stock will rise considerably now that they don't have to hide their sudden case of the munchies.

I do foresee one positive side effect though. Perhaps we will see less unfunny pot gags in movies now, because Hollywood tends to think "taboo" subjects are funny. /shrug

Yeah, because Hollywood never has movies or gags about people getting totally shitfaced drunk.
 

Saint Nick

Lifer
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Until your ass passes the medical costs of taking care of yourself onto the tax payers because you smoked yourself into unemployment. Liberals love to play this double sided card, "Its my body but I want the tax payers to foot the medical costs because all health care should be "free" (as in those who pay taxes should foot the bill) even though I don't take care of myself."

I never said I wanted any taxpayers to do anything...and I never said anything about healthcare.

I'm just saying people should be able to do what they want with themselves. I don't understand why law is involved with what we put in our bodies.