What will be the GOP/Trump October Surprise?

[nOOky]

He's going to announce that he has been wife swapping with Bill and Hillary Clinton. It explains why he has donated so much to her political aspirations, and why he was a staunch Democrat. Until Bill got tired of Melania and called it all off, then DJT went off the deep end. Hillary's emails explain as much, until now he has only been half-heartedly hoping they'd come out as they implicate him to some extent. But now, he needs those emails to show how deep Bill's involvement in Melania went.

Oh wait, this is about the Bidens. Well it turns out Hunter was into Melania also, in a big way. She won Miss Yugoslavia, and he was a make-up artist that fell for her. Secretly Melania misses Hunter's careful yet rough caressers, and DJT knows it, and it burns him up inside (might be syphylis though).

 

[Jhhnn]

Could be "packing the Supreme Court" should Biden win. The Democrats seem incapable of a decent response to this. (Seems to me all Biden has to say is that he cant do it alone, it requires approval of both houses of congress. If such a bill is passed he will evaluate it, but wont speculate on specifics at this time.)

And yes, I know the Republicans are doing it right now, but the dems dont seem to use this effectively as a response either.

Dems are building their case to do that over the ACA. The GOP wants it to be an issue & Biden doesn't, so he won't let them make it into one.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

It's a November surprise this year, when Trump goes to the SC to and Amy COVID Barrett rewards him the presidency. Either that or a January surprise when Trump has the Proud Boys and all the other rightwing shitbirds march on the inauguration and try to assassinate President Biden.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's a November surprise this year, when Trump goes to the SC to and Amy COVID Barrett rewards him the presidency. Either that or a January surprise when Trump has the Proud Boys and all the other rightwing shitbirds march on the inauguration and try to assassinate President Biden.

Barring some dark miracle it looks like Trump is getting trounced at the polls. Should that happen, the rest of it is just noise.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Barring some dark miracle it looks like Trump is getting trounced at the polls. Should that happen, the rest of it is just noise.

Polls aren't votes. Can't suppress polls with the post office. People aren't scared of answering polls in a pandemic that is just now becoming an inferno in critical swing states of the midwest. But being around a bunch of people to cast votes? You gotta remember the right still thinks this is an overblown plandemic meant to discredit their Dear Leader, so they're not going to be scared off from doing in person voting. And even if Biden wins in a landslide, you think Trump is going to tell his death cult to just accept it? Yeah right.

 

[woolfe9998]

Polls aren't votes. Can't suppress polls with the post office. People aren't scared of answering polls in a pandemic that is just now becoming an inferno in critical swing states of the midwest. But being around a bunch of people to cast votes? You gotta remember the right still thinks this is an overblown plandemic meant to discredit their Dear Leader, so they're not going to be scared off from doing in person voting. And even if Biden wins in a landslide, you think Trump is going to tell his death cult to just accept it? Yeah right.

Concerns about COVID safety with in person voting are way overblown. In fact, democrats are responsible for some of this excessive concern. No outbreaks have been linked to voting this year. Democrats need to stop telling everyone to vote by mail as that system is set to be overloaded in certain key swing states and a failure to count all those votes on election day will result in antics by Trump that could cause serious problems.

 

[sportage]

I think everybody is scared, yes even the republicans.
Scared that ACA will be struck down because even republicans need healthcare, and while the high court will hear the ACA arguments this November, we will not know the final decision until June of 2021. Joe Biden could be president by then. People are scared that Roe vs Wade will be struck down because even republicans need an abortion from time to time. Scared that some unproven rushed to market vaccine will come out on November 2nd and people will have to chose whether or not to risk their life taking that vaccine. Remember, during the polio epidemic one vaccine manufacturer released a flawed vaccine that actually gave hundreds of children the polio virus. And people are scared that their vote will not count or be counted. Donald Trump is using everything including the kitchen sink to make sure that his US Supreme Court choses the next president and not the ballots. So there you have all the surprise that you need locked and loaded. I do believe that even republicans are extremely fearful of Donald Trump but just can't bring themselves to vote for Joe Biden. Come 2021 there will be regrets, a lot of regrets for both democrats and republicans despite who becomes the next president because Donald Trump has pre-rigged the too.

 

[Caminetto]

So far the Dem campaign hasn't given the Repugs anything they can try to make into an issue. Even their ads are fairly clean.

But agree with Homerboy, there is a disaster coming from tRump and Repugs in Nov/Dec. There are so many ways to game the system that no ethical person would ever think about let alone try, untill now.
Too, you can bet on some rouge Dem or Dems or even a Repugs impersonating Dems, cheating or screwing with election results, and Repugs screaming about it. Republican Govenors in most states will challege, pursuade, intimidate electorial college electors. Since the constitutionality of states requiring their electors to vote a certain way has never been tested. Guess where that is headed.

In addition, I don't believe Dudly Do-right (James Comey) tried to influence the election. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. Withholding information that the FBI was reopening the investigation because additional emails were found - it would have certainly have appeared like FBI was trying to influence the election.

 

[woolfe9998]

In addition, I don't believe Dudly Do-right (James Comey) tried to influence the election. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. Withholding information that the FBI was reopening the investigation because additional emails were found - it would have certainly have appeared like FBI was trying to influence the election.

I agree that Comey wasn't trying to help Trump win. If Comey had somehow preferred Trump, then why didn't Comey take Trump's loyalty oath in February, 2017, and why didn't he agree to go soft on Flynn? He got fired for refusing.

However, I do think Comey did the wrong thing releasing that letter. I agree that what you describe was his motive, but the FBI had a long standing tradition of not making announcements like that so soon before an election. If he was concerned about not being perceived as interfering, he should have just fallen back on that tradition.

 

[Jhhnn]

Polls aren't votes. Can't suppress polls with the post office. People aren't scared of answering polls in a pandemic that is just now becoming an inferno in critical swing states of the midwest. But being around a bunch of people to cast votes? You gotta remember the right still thinks this is an overblown plandemic meant to discredit their Dear Leader, so they're not going to be scared off from doing in person voting. And even if Biden wins in a landslide, you think Trump is going to tell his death cult to just accept it? Yeah right.

Ugh. The people in the USPS will do their best to deliver the ballots on time. It's a day or two slower but that's about it.

In Election's Final Week, Mail Delays Worsen (Published 2020)

What 30 million letters can tell us about how the post office is doing

www.nytimes.com

Forewarned is fore armed & mail in voters are rushing to send theirs off while there's still lots of time. Early voting is swamped everywhere it's started. It won't matter what Trump says if he's crushed in the election & there's a very strong chance of that happening. Turnout for Biden will be huge. I don't believe there are enough Trumpsters to counter that.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I agree that Comey wasn't trying to help Trump win. If Comey had somehow preferred Trump, then why didn't Comey take Trump's loyalty oath in February, 2017, and why didn't he agree to go soft on Flynn? He got fired for refusing.

However, I do think Comey did the wrong thing releasing that letter. I agree that what you describe was his motive, but the FBI had a long standing tradition of not making announcements like that so soon before an election. If he was concerned about not being perceived as interfering, he should have just fallen back on that tradition.

Yup, he would have had a much better defense/argument that he was not interfering (assuming Clinton won) since that is long standing policy. The reverse scenario, and the one we're living in, we don't know by how much his actions changed the outcome of the election.

I wouldn't be surprised if it provided ammo to more than a few people who were looking for a reason to note vote Clinton

 

[eelw]

Sure Comey is Republican. Sure he may not have supported Hillary. But he has stated, he made the announcement for transparency for the soon to be president elect.

As for a November surprise. Let Trumpity Dumpity go back on the campaign trail. He's going to get sick worse the second time around. While I've said I'd rather have him suffer as long as possible it is probably be better for the world that he gets sick and dies in November. Pence won't do anything destructive as a lame duck president. And MAGA crowd can mourn and then go back under their bridge after.

 

[soundforbjt]

Here's how I think it goes...

 

[Bitek]

Concerns about COVID safety with in person voting are way overblown. In fact, democrats are responsible for some of this excessive concern. No outbreaks have been linked to voting this year. Democrats need to stop telling everyone to vote by mail as that system is set to be overloaded in certain key swing states and a failure to count all those votes on election day will result in antics by Trump that could cause serious problems.

Ds need to make a concerted effort to build a proper mail in voting system with strong legal protections around it.

It's so much more convenient and time efficient and can get around the shenanigans with too few polling places and long lines.

Census is done by mail, and response rate is 60-70+% self reporting, and 99+% with follow up.
Elections are 55% in a presidential year.

CO (100% mail in) was 72%.

Hard to do on the fly during a pandemic when you don't control govt, but it should be a key strategic goal going fwd.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yup, he would have had a much better defense/argument that he was not interfering (assuming Clinton won) since that is long standing policy. The reverse scenario, and the one we're living in, we don't know by how much his actions changed the outcome of the election.

I wouldn't be surprised if it provided ammo to more than a few people who were looking for a reason to note vote Clinton

I somewhat disagree that we don't know. Clinton was ahead by 6 nationally in the polls prior to the letter. Within days of the letter, her lead dropped to 3.5. She went into the election with that lead. Clinton lost the three key swing states by less than .5%. Comey's letter almost certainly cost her the election. I don't think Comey predicted it or intended it, but it's what happened.

 

[woolfe9998]

Ds need to make a concerted effort to build a proper mail in voting system with strong legal protections around it.

It's so much more convenient and time efficient and can get around the shenanigans with too few polling places and long lines.

Census is done by mail, and response rate is 60-70+% self reporting, and 99+% with follow up.
Elections are 55% in a presidential year.

CO (100% mail in) was 72%.

Hard to do on the fly during a pandemic when you don't control govt, but it should be a key strategic goal going fwd.

Yes, we need to do that. But we can't do it in time for this election. And everything is on the line with this election.

I saw some commentary last night on CNN which said that states like Washington which have been doing mail-in voting for over 10 years have the system down pat. But states which haven't and are getting a huge influx this year are severely understaffed.

Trump may well attempt to declare victory on election night, when only 75% of the votes have been counted nationally, and there is every reason to believe that Biden will get 2 out of 3 of the uncounted votes. That is what scares me.

It seems obvious to me that democrats in swing states who are not facing long polling lines, which most are not, should seriously consider voting in person.

 

[Bitek]

Yes, we need to do that. But we can't do it in time for this election. And everything is on the line with this election.

I saw some commentary last night on CNN which said that states like Washington which have been doing mail-in voting for over 10 years have the system down pat. But states which haven't and are getting a huge influx this year are severely understaffed.

Trump may well attempt to declare victory on election night, when only 75% of the votes have been counted nationally, and there is every reason to believe that Biden will get 2 out of 3 of the uncounted votes. That is what scares me.

It seems obvious to me that democrats in swing states who are not facing long polling lines, which most are not, should seriously consider voting in person.

Yeah. I'd expect Trump will try to do that, although the exit polls and numbers counted may be too overwhelming for that to get much traction.

I could also see him just quitting before Jan 20 (after all other options fail) and just walking out crying foul. Then Whitey McFly is left to transition power

No doubt he'll try some insanity, and no way he's not a sore loser.

 

[woolfe9998]

Yeah. I'd expect Trump will try to do that, although the exit polls and numbers counted may be too overwhelming for that to get much traction.

I could also see him just quitting before Jan 20 (after all other options fail) and just walking out crying foul. Then Whitey McFly is left to transition power

No doubt he'll try some insanity, and no way he's not a sore loser.

LOL at that. Trump literally admitted to being a sore loser in an interview with Chris Wallace. Wallace asked him, "are you a good loser" and he said "no."

Trump said the Emmy awards were rigged when the Apprentice didn't win. He's been this way his whole life.

 

[HomerJS]

No legitimate info to release absent the lesbian affair between Hillary and Huma Abedin. Half of that grosses me out.

There's a wealth of stuff for Trump to fabricate out of thin air. Dems need to be ready for it.

 

[thilanliyan]

I'm assuming a vaccine made from Trump's stem cells...if he can distill and concentrate his disdain for science, the virus will end up like Biden at the debate...continually interrupted and unable to wreak havoc on it's host 😀

 

[Zorba]

There's no "October Surprise". It's going to be a "November Bombshell" where he simply does not concede in any shape way or form and it becomes a painful, vengeful, spiteful, hateful legal battle to concede the throne. I'm taking note of the Republican State Legislatures assigning their own Electorates to override election results they find "fraudulent".

November - December is going to be as brutal a time to our "Democracy" as this country has seen in anyone's living memory. We're in for a true test of our country's and her citizens' mettle.

I think in reality, every state legislature will realize any attempt to change the elecorates after the fact would result in riots that make the Floyd protests look like sunday school. I think you'd honestly see capitals burning and worse. The way it looks now it would also take several states, I really don't see more than one state attempting to go down this road and one won't if it doesn't even tip the scales.

 

[eelw]

No legitimate info to release absent the lesbian affair between Hillary and Huma Abedin. Half of that grosses me out.

There's a wealth of stuff for Trump to fabricate out of thin air. Dems need to be ready for it.

Well Tara Reid could come back

 

[dawp]

trump will have a relapse of covid and croak.

 

[esquared]

I'll regret saying this, but I actually feel like we're sort of at a point where there isn't anything that is going to shift a needle enough for Trump. At least on things within Trump's control. We've already got 5-7 million votes in. Both candidates have plenty of history for voters to draw an opinion on. There is very little in the way of new information that could legitimately swing away a ton of votes from Joe. That said, he's in the lead, it's his to lose. He can still say something absolutely stupid that will cost him a few votes, but nothing significant. I think we're in a very different phase of the election than we were at the same time in 2016.

I read tonight 9.8 M early voters so far.
And did you see Georgia voters waiting in the early voting line today?
Some are claiming the wait to be up to 10 hours? Voter suppression by the Repubs ain't working there.
They are not going to be denied.

'Haven’t Seen This in Any Other Country': Video of Huge Line of Georgia Voters Waiting to Cast Ballots Goes Viral

The start of early voting in Georgia came Monday morning, and just like in 2018, when Republican Brian Kemp was Secretary of State and in charge of managing elections, the lines are long again. Secretary Kemp is now Governor Kemp, having won the election over Stacey Abrams amid what many believe...

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Huge lines and technological glitches mar early voting in Georgia

Thousands of people waited in line to cast early votes in Georgia on Monday - the state's first day of in-person early voting - but some waited in line for half a day sparking worry that election day could be a disaster next month.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Homerboy]

I think in reality, every state legislature will realize any attempt to change the elecorates after the fact would result in riots that make the Floyd protests look like sunday school. I think you'd honestly see capitals burning and worse. The way it looks now it would also take several states, I really don't see more than one state attempting to go down this road and one won't if it doesn't even tip the scales.

Agreed. I don't really think it will work, but I won't rule out them trying.