What was our justification for going into Iraq?

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Needs a choice for "Iraq was about to start trading oil in Euros. We couldn't have that because the fact oil is traded in US$ is what keeps the US$ afloat." (or abbreviated: control of petro-dollar currency)

bingo!
we have a winner.
this was the number one reason for going to war.

i still want to see what will happen if iran does go through with their plans of starting an oil exchange in euros.

 

[nergee]

Iraq offers a strategic base from which to thwart the future aggressive actions
from China and at the same time protect the supply of oil to the West..........

 

[judasmachine]

no one voting that iraq was responsible for 9/11? i'm surprised.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
no one voting that iraq was responsible for 9/11? i'm surprised.

What's surprising about that? No sane person believes that Iraq was directly involved with 9/11. Therefore no sane person should conclude that we went to Iraq because of 9/11.

I said it before. This is a war on terrorism/ists, not a war against the specific guys who were responsible for 9/11.

 

[linkgoron]

Who exactly is us when you say "Our"? Say US or something.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
no one voting that iraq was responsible for 9/11? i'm surprised.

There's one vote now. Who ever voted for it, fess up now!!

 

[BBond]

Other...

Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: conjur
To establish a permanent American military presence in Iraq.
To protect Israel
To rape Iraq's natural resources and insert American companies friendly to this administration into Iraq to make more money (privatizing formerly nationalized industries)


WMDs were just a convenient, yet falsified, excuse.

Cheney Energy Task Force Documents Detail Iraqi Oil Industry
Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force appeared to have some interest in early 2001 in Iraq's oil industry, including which foreign companies were pursuing business there, according to documents released Friday by a private watchdog group.

They will privatize the Iraqi oil fields soon enough. It is just a matter of time. I think its good and hopefully some of that money will help repay the hundreds of bilions we sank in this pit (I doubt it though).

Originally posted by: sunzt
- To establish and spread American influence as well as American/Western values of democracy and freedom in the Middle East

- "To protect Isreal" <-Conjur

- To take advantage (but not necessarily exploit) of Iraq's resources

- To help American businesses gain entry into Iraq and spread to the rest of the region

- To split Arab opinion of America. As in Arbs will hopefully see what a good deed the US is doing in Iraq by ousting Saddam and forming a new democracy

- To make daddy proud

I will agree with all of this. GWB has exclaimed that he tried to "kill my daddy" which made this WAY too personal. Anyway, I will offer one more corollary to the ME base scenario - we attacked in part because Iraq was the "easiest" target located in a prime location. Iran would have been more difficult.

 

[james88]

to help the iraqi people, to bring freedom to the Arab nations. Soon all arabs are free.

 

[tommywishbone]

We went there to steal the oil and we are stealing the oil. It's simple. If I go to Piggly Wiggly to steal the money...I steal the money. If someone wants to stop me.... they get shot (in theory of course). This is simple Robbery 101, just applied on a massive scale.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: james88
to help the iraqi people, to bring freedom to the Arab nations. Soon all arabs are free.

Sounds exactly like the propaganda we used to criticize from the USSR...

:roll:

 

[AntiEverything]

Bush really is just a tool, I think he's had it in his mid since before his first term that if he were president, we'd have another Iraq war.

 

[imported_Noob]

Other: Many, if not all, the major events in history have been staged. If one truely researches the NWO, Illuminati, and the numerology related to historical dates and events; one will start to realize that something much bigger is being carried out and that nothing really is coincidental. Conflict is created to divert our attention form the big plan, one world government.

 

[sandorski]

WMD!, err intentions to get WMD, WoT, or Saddam was a very very very bad man! :|

Keep cycling through those reasons, no matter what the arguement, one of them will make a good duhversion from the particular subject you're getting nailed on.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
No sane person believes that Iraq was directly involved with 9/11.

I agree 100% with you. In fact, next time someone says they were (which is quite often), I'll PM you so you can set them straight.

 

[Darkhawk28]

I find it sad that 19 people STILL think we went into Iraq to find WMD's. The truth stick must've swung and missed on these people.

 

[dmcowen674]

The Poll clearly shows the multiple brainwashing techniques of the Republicans have worked flawlessly on the sheeple.

It also clearly shows how divided the Country is.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Poll clearly shows the multiple brainwashing techniques of the Republicans have worked flawlessly on the sheeple.

It also clearly shows how divided the Country is.

Shall we try an exorcism?

THE POWER OF CHEESE COMPELS YOU!! THE POWER OF CHEESE COMPELS YOU!!

 

[Texun]

It doesn't matter what the real reason is... terrirosts want to kill you and me. We fight or die, and I would rather see the US fight them over there as much as possible instead of here. We still have the threat but give this some thought: By uprooting Saddamm many insurgents are flowing to Iraq like bugs to a light. It's better to have them moving into Iraq than to have them here. Some are here already but many of their resources are concentrated in the ME.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Texun
It doesn't matter what the real reason is... terrirosts want to kill you and me. We fight or die, and I would rather see the US fight them over there as much as possible instead of here. We still have the threat but give this some thought: By uprooting Saddamm many insurgents are flowing to Iraq like bugs to a light. It's better to have them moving into Iraq than to have them here. Some are here already but many of their resources are concentrated in the ME.

I see the kool-aid runs deep in this one.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Texun
It doesn't matter what the real reason is... terrirosts want to kill you and me. We fight or die, and I would rather see the US fight them over there as much as possible instead of here. We still have the threat but give this some thought: By uprooting Saddamm many insurgents are flowing to Iraq like bugs to a light. It's better to have them moving into Iraq than to have them here. Some are here already but many of their resources are concentrated in the ME.

LOL. You actually think all those "terrorists" were there "before" we went to Iraq? You think they're "all" in Iraq fighting? Terrorists, Al-Queda in particular, have grown very much in size since we went to Iraq.

The ends did not (ABSOLUTELY DID NOT) jusity the lying means!

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Missed general strategy for cleaning up the middle east. That is the real reason. Iran is now surrounded. Syria is pressured. We have an alternative to Saudi oil dominance. Solved all of our problems in one swift blow.

Solved?


Pass that over here, must be some remarkable stuff, got any for sale?

Or is my sarcasm meter stuck?

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Texun
It doesn't matter what the real reason is... terrirosts want to kill you and me. We fight or die, and I would rather see the US fight them over there as much as possible instead of here. We still have the threat but give this some thought: By uprooting Saddamm many insurgents are flowing to Iraq like bugs to a light. It's better to have them moving into Iraq than to have them here. Some are here already but many of their resources are concentrated in the ME.

LOL. You actually think all those "terrorists" were there "before" we went to Iraq? You think they're "all" in Iraq fighting? Terrorists, Al-Queda in particular, have grown very much in size since we went to Iraq.

The ends did not (ABSOLUTELY DID NOT) jusity the lying means!

In this case, the ends didn't even occur. The means did not justify the uh... means.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Texun
It doesn't matter what the real reason is... terrirosts want to kill you and me. We fight or die, and I would rather see the US fight them over there as much as possible instead of here. We still have the threat but give this some thought: By uprooting Saddamm many insurgents are flowing to Iraq like bugs to a light. It's better to have them moving into Iraq than to have them here. Some are here already but many of their resources are concentrated in the ME.

How can an insurgent flow to Iraq?


Ignorance is bliss...you must be deliriously happy.

 

[yllus]

To invade the only remotely politically allowable nation in the Middle East that would create a foothold in the region to institute democratic reforms in the terrorists' own backyard.

For the Iraqis, they simultaneously rid themselves of a psycho dictator, can move towards institution of a responsible government and can finally spread the wealth of the country around like only capitalism can. For the West, we create an irresistible central target for terrorists to flood into instead of always being on the defence at home. For the rest of the Middle East, this puts them on notice that this sh!t won't fly anymore - shape your country up, even slowly if you must, or we'll do it for you.

It's no doubt easier to sit back and navel-gaze forever about what should and shouldn't be, but when it comes to action I've not heard a better plan yet.