The Russian Winter knocked the Nazis off and their lack of supply. And yes, the two front war killed Nazi Germany because they didn't have enough resources to fight at two fronts.
The Russian Winter knocked the Nazis off and their lack of supply. And yes, the two front war killed Nazi Germany because they didn't have enough resources to fight at two fronts.
DT4K
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Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
The United States has never done anything honorable in it's entire history.
Everything this country does is short sighted and self serving. Those that can should
leave and the rest commit mass suicide. We are a shameful, pathetic bunch of sods.
You'd be surprised at how many people in P&N seem to seriously hold this view.
Actually what crushed the German supplies were the daylight industrial bombing raids restarted by the U.S. (British started w/ daylight raids but stuck to nighttime because of horrendous losses).
Some people say that the US's forcing of companies to cheaply license out key semiconductor patents in the early days (to domestic and international companies) had a greater economic impact on the world than the Marshall Plan. So I'll put that down for some variety
K1052
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Hitler screwed up by going to war too soon. With only two more years preperation he would have won.
Combine that with the opening of the Russian front in June of 41 and ill timed entry of the U.S. into the war in December, and Germany was screwed.
Thank god Hitler was not a very good general.
its role in WWII. although i dont think they willingly joined the war out of the kindness of their heart, they did fight with dignity and purpose after they were dragged in defending themselves. and thats why americans were honorable, especially with op. overlord and the a-bombs.
not entirely true,
German industrial production went up just until the last months of the war, they had difficulties getting the gear to the front
the german moral was also never broken by the bombing campaign
the Russians pretty much kicked serious ass, it would have been a lot more difficult for the allies (USA, Canada, GB) if the eastern front would not have existed
some of the best panzerdivisions were on the eastern front
Well a bet question is what is America's most selfless act in history. While some of those mentioned may seem honorable it loses some lustre when you know the reasons behind it were whatever was best for the US.
yllus
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Steal? The U.S. built it on its own, and signed a contract for rights over it thereafter. It's not like they sent in the army to seize it after Panama built it themselves. Read some history.
For my contribution, I say the most honourable act was the formation of the country and its stand against the British to establish independence. Self-interest can be found in everything, but that was the most pure act of standing up for idea of freedom from my perspective.
Define good, it's so subjective depending on the perspective.
remember, history is written by the victors
remember, history is written by the victors
perhaps true, however, if his original plan of russian invasion wasn't delayed several month, he would've successfully taken russia instead of defeat by general russian winter. And with russia taken, he would've secured valuable resources and strategic importance. The allied forces would have had almost no chance.
The atom bomb was developed at the end of the war, the germans had a similar program and if not for the allied bombing, they would've succeeded, not to mention the v2 rocket, jet fighter, and bomber.
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