Originally posted by: XZeroII
Every country in the history of the world has it's dark side and light side. Our country is no different. I would argue that the people who actually created this country were the most honorable. They stood up for what they believed in and did something about it. They revolted over a tax of only about 4% (or somewhere around there) on a few select products. Yet, here we are giving more than 1/3 of our total income to our government and we are just sitting here typing on our computers about how it sucks. We are pathetic compared to the people back then.
Originally posted by: nick1985
saving the world in world war 2 aint a bad thing.
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: nick1985
saving the world in world war 2 aint a bad thing.
from who? from the Nazis? The Nazis didn't have any ressources left and the Russian Winter finished them off, although it was a good thing that America helped, it wasn't like THEY saved the world.
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart.
I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
The US was also fighting a two front war. Remember, Japan hadn't had a single military loss in about 40 years until after they woke us up. A large part of the asian side of the Pacific had already been taken over. The US went from the 13th most powerful military to the most powerful military in a period of about five years.
Originally posted by: sygyzy
What's funny is most of those are goods done to fix a bad. That' s like saying "daddy's a good man because he stopped beating mommy"
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart. I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Originally posted by: dpm
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart. I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Well, of course it wasn't an action entirely without ulteriour motive, no action is, and that does not make something dishonourable. Perhaps you should be less quick to judge and spend more time thinking. Compare the actions of the US after the second world war to the actions after the first. Similar situations with similar needs, yet two radically different approaches were taken.
The Marshall plan (and the general US strategy in post war Europe) was inspired and far seeing, and an example of a nation actually learning from its mistakes, in a century that had been nearly devoid of that.
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: dpm
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart. I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Well, of course it wasn't an action entirely without ulteriour motive, no action is, and that does not make something dishonourable. Perhaps you should be less quick to judge and spend more time thinking. Compare the actions of the US after the second world war to the actions after the first. Similar situations with similar needs, yet two radically different approaches were taken.
The Marshall plan (and the general US strategy in post war Europe) was inspired and far seeing, and an example of a nation actually learning from its mistakes, in a century that had been nearly devoid of that.
Still, the Marshall Plan isn't as honorable as preventing full-scale nuclear war between the United States and USSR, which could have very easily wiped nearly everyone off the planet.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: dpm
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart. I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Well, of course it wasn't an action entirely without ulteriour motive, no action is, and that does not make something dishonourable. Perhaps you should be less quick to judge and spend more time thinking. Compare the actions of the US after the second world war to the actions after the first. Similar situations with similar needs, yet two radically different approaches were taken.
The Marshall plan (and the general US strategy in post war Europe) was inspired and far seeing, and an example of a nation actually learning from its mistakes, in a century that had been nearly devoid of that.
Still, the Marshall Plan isn't as honorable as preventing full-scale nuclear war between the United States and USSR, which could have very easily wiped nearly everyone off the planet.
Both countries managed to skate on the razor's edge of that one. Not all that wise on either side.
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart.
I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: nan0bug
Originally posted by: dpm
Originally posted by: eigen
You guys are doing serious drugs if you think the U.S rebuilt Europe out of the kindess of our heart. I am actually shocked that people thought we did this out of honor.
Well, of course it wasn't an action entirely without ulteriour motive, no action is, and that does not make something dishonourable. Perhaps you should be less quick to judge and spend more time thinking. Compare the actions of the US after the second world war to the actions after the first. Similar situations with similar needs, yet two radically different approaches were taken.
The Marshall plan (and the general US strategy in post war Europe) was inspired and far seeing, and an example of a nation actually learning from its mistakes, in a century that had been nearly devoid of that.
Still, the Marshall Plan isn't as honorable as preventing full-scale nuclear war between the United States and USSR, which could have very easily wiped nearly everyone off the planet.
Both countries managed to skate on the razor's edge of that one. Not all that wise on either side.
We both came close, yes, but that does not make standing down at the end any less honorable. In fact, I'd say it makes it that much more honorable.