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Zebo

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I think war should be total war or else it's just a waste of men and materials.
 

piasabird

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I never met a slave, and no one I know ever stole land from an American Native. So silly notions like this are irrellevent at this point. You could add Mormons to those people whose land was stolen. The reason the Mormons moved west was to escape the Hatred of other people in the United States.

Dont believe in smoking tobacco or marijuana.
Dont believe in drinking Coffee or Tea. (Are you addicted to Caffine?).
Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. (Always been that way).
No lying.
No stealing.

Strange notions I guess.

A person can only have one God. If you worship money or other things like coffe or Alcohol, you have made that your God.
 

AreaCode7O7

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I think the most interesting thing about this thread is the number of "unpopular" views posted that I always considered to be the popular ones. Maybe we should all edit our posts to indicate roughly where we're from. I'm on the US West Coast and lots of the "unpopular" legalize drugs, abortion, homosexual marriage views are the popular ones in my area.
 
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religion is a farce
government intervention does more harm than good
inanimate objects and concepts are not dangerous (ex. drugs, guns, gambling), only people are
NO human is created equal, and it is not the governments responsibility to compensate for that
freedoms cannot be given, but only taken away
rewarding irresponsible behavior in ANY capacity will create future irresponsibility to a worse degree
 

Mxylplyx

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Professional jurys. Joe the Plumber is too stupid to have that kind of responsibility.

Legalize all recreational drugs, and decriminalize all others. The drug war itself is much worse than the consequences of said drugs.

Seal all but the most violent criminal histories so former offenders actually have other options besides crime. Maybe leave this up to a judge.

Congressional term limits.

 

ZzZGuy

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(note I'm Canadian, not American)

-There is no personal god.
-All organized religion is wrong.
-Pro Israel.
-Screw the missile shield in Europe, put it in Israel.
-Canada should start preparing to counter a USA invasion.
-Global warming is real and man does have some impact on it.
-China and Russia are not evil.
-Pro gay marriage, and to have kids.
-"Gay" is not a choice
-Legalize weed.
-Anti abortion except for rape, young pregnancy (think 10 year old), SEVERE mental or physical disability of the fetus and risk to the mother. To have a abortion because you had a "Accident" isn't good enough, on the same token if the government/community does not provide ALL required support if the mother is not in a position to take care of the child (eg, 17 year old gets pregnant , religious parents kick her out, doesn't make enough to support herself let alone the kid).
-2 tier health care system (public and private).
-Pro death penalty when the murderer is caught on film, leave DNA evidence behind, finger prints on weapon, screw the eye witnesses and has the guys wallet in his home. Basically a trial that lasts only as long as it takes to review the evidence that leave no doubt based on hard facts. (as I said before, eye witnesses suck)
-Against NAFTA.

-edit- remembered something I left out after reading piasabird's post.

-the UN should be disbanded and replaced with something that actually does what it is supposed to.
 

Possessed Freak

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Raise the death penalty for more crimes, faster appeal system so people don't rot on the public's dime when they should be dead years ago.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Corn
Don't know if it is unpopular or not, but my motto has always been: People are the problem.

NO. Corn is the problem. Corn has been genetically modified.
 

microbial

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1- The truth is Hippies were right back in the 60's, and they are still right today.
2- Jimmy Carter is the only US president in the past 40 years that doesn't make me regurgitate bile when I consider their tenure.
 

CPA

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I believe profiling is a necessity.

I am not tolerant of others - specifically drug users/seller, rapists, murderers, extremist muslims (more out there than most care to admit), extremist christians (fewer out there than most care to admit) and the Dutch.

less market regulation is a good thing.

Current tax system should be abolished and a sales tax should be implemented.

National Government should ONLY focus on defense/national security, foreign affairs and interstate commerce. ALL other issues should be handled and taxed at the state and local level - this includes welfare, healthcare, education, gun rights, etc.

Death penalty should be expanded and meted out quicker.

Forgot, I believe the current Global Warming BS is the biggest scam ever perpuatrated on the world and we are and will continue to suffer more from the economic impact of the scam then we are from any "real" warming effects.
 

Fox5

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In the presence of an all knowing and all powerful government, the most logical government is socialism, with capitalism merely as an arm to provide inner mobility among classes and to handle non-essential/unimportant matters of society. Our economic system is basically a sham ever since we went off the gold standard (not that that didn't have its own problems), and creates non-existent wealth. However, because there is an excess of many resources/capability of production in today's world, we should take advantage of that. In America alone, there is no reason anyone should starve or be homeless.

In a world full of corrupt, uneducated politicians and bureaucracy, I'd rather see as small of a government as possible, only large enough to keep corporations in check. However, I am against a single corporation dominating an industry, and even a two way split is far from ideal because it kills capitalism. The same applies to government, a two way split between the parties is a horrible situation. When capitalism works, it is because of the forces of valid competition, and competition stagnates when fewer competitors are left. One is obviously the worst, but two isn't much better.

Software piracy will inevitably win out. While I don't care much what happens to entertainment (they can just learn to make things cheaper so they retain profitability), essential needs, like software development in general, should be government funded. Return to the ways of mama Bell and add a tax onto every citizen's bill that goes to funding software R&D. Software will then be available for free, since it's development has already been funded by the government, and there will be no need to pirate it. (or rather, no differentiation between pirating or otherwise)
 

IronWing

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I am opposed to the death penalty in almost all cases (exceptions for sadists and war criminals).

Palestinians, just as much as Israelis, are entitled to human and civil rights.

NASCAR fans deserve the derision and elitist scorn heaped upon them. Driving cars really fast is fun. Watching really fast cars is stupid.

If people voted their self interests, ideology be damned, we would end up with better government.

God intended Americans to drive V8s.

Saturday Night Live is only on very rare occassions funny. This has been true from its inception through today. The funny moments from all 33 years of the show could fit on a 90 minute tape, maybe a 60 minute tape. People who remember it being really funny at one time in the mythic past were stoned when they watched it.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: piasabird
What was the last country or area that the UN took over where they succeeded and the country or area became peace loving?

All the UN does is give food to terrorists and monitors areas. Was not the UN suppose to have taken over Lebanon. What on earth do UN peace-keepers do?

I think the answer is sadly nothing.

No, they were never given authority to do anything of the sort.

With such misunderstandings to the contrary, it is no wonder you are so spiteful towards the UN.
 

BoomerD

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I'm a relatively conservative Democrat.

I believe that the death penalty should be expanded to include more crimes. (habitual criminals)

As I get older, I believe that there will NEVER be peace in the Middle East, so let's just turn it ALL into glass so it doesn't infect the rest of the world.

Religion is just mind-control for the masses...and is based on smoke & mirrors, lies, and myths.

I think tobacco should be outlawed...except for Cuban cigars.

I believe that gasoline should be less than 50 cents/gallon in the USA...and don't care how much the rest of the world has to pay.

American troops should be used ONLY to protect the USA, BUT, may be used in cases like WWII. Vietnam, Iraq, and Korea were total clusterfucks and not a single American soldier should have to die for such worthless causes. IMO, the total population of the Middle East isn't worth the life of a single US serviceman/woman.

I believe that corrupt politicans and cops should be publically executed...in a very painful manner. They steal not only money, but our confidence in the system.

I believe good whiskey should be treasured...and savored, not gulped down, nor watered down or mixed with soda pop.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Originally posted by: piasabird
What was the last country or area that the UN took over where they succeeded and the country or area became peace loving?

All the UN does is give food to terrorists and monitors areas. Was not the UN suppose to have taken over Lebanon. What on earth do UN peace-keepers do?

I think the answer is sadly nothing.

No, they were never given authority to do anything of the sort.

With such misunderstandings to the contrary, it is no wonder you are so spiteful towards the UN.

Yup. The UN merely was lined along the Border between Israel/Lebanon, as Observers. They may also have provided some Oversight/Control of that strip of land, keeping things relatively calm and Rocket Attack free. Not entirely sure of the last part, not much gets reported on regarding UN Missions, unless something goes wrong.
 

sactoking

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1. I don't care if abortion is legal or not, but if it IS legal ("My Body, MY Choice") then killing a pregnant woman eligible for an abortion should NEVER be double-murder.
2. "Nature, not Nurture" is a specious stance in regards to homosexuality since homosexuals cannot NATURALLY reproduce and the basic function of all life is procreation.
 

ZzZGuy

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Originally posted by: sactoking
1. I don't care if abortion is legal or not, but if it IS legal ("My Body, MY Choice") then killing a pregnant woman eligible for an abortion should NEVER be double-murder.
2. "Nature, not Nurture" is a specious stance in regards to homosexuality since homosexuals cannot NATURALLY reproduce and the basic function of all life is procreation.

Well,

1- What if she intended raise that child? I'd agree with you if she happened to be on her way to have a abortion.
2- Homosexuality is observed in the wild and captivity. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.../02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL
 

SamurAchzar

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I think Palestinians, collectively, are the most stupid nation of the 20th century, by a big margin.
I believe the world is completely hypocritical when it comes to Middle East conflict. Somehow, weakness is perceived as morality, while taking action against those that harm you seems like malice.

I don't believe in relativism. I think that universally, the USA way is the most moral and right regime available, yet the Federal government is amazingly corrupt (Blackwater?) in many cases.
I think Islam is a dark religion that will cause the world much more grief before moderates take over and prosper.
I think the massive Muslim immigration into Europe is God's sarcastic way to punish them for exterminating the Jews.

I think Greed and Fame are two of the things that make humankind tick, neither available under Socialistic regime. The remaining motivator, Power, is found in abundance.

I'm against the death penalty. I think mistakes related to the death penalty aren't tolerable.

I will mourn the day the internal combustion engine disappears from our lives, despite the obvious advantages to mankind.

I think jury trial is the modern version of a mob lynch.

I believe Aimster is a fictional character.

I'm pro recreational drugs.

I think the West has been living too protected of a life since the WWII, that it forgot how to fight those who wish it harm.
I think letting Iran arm itself with nukes will turn it to the next Pakistan - can't spit, can't swallow kind of country that does not good to anyone.
I think the Iraq war was a huge mistake, although I supported it at the time. Arabs just can't live under democracy, and the world was foolish not to see that.

I think Obama will prove at least as pro-Israeli as Bush. With his burden of doubts, allegations of being Muslim and all that, Obama will strive to make things better.
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: ZzZGuy
Originally posted by: sactoking
1. I don't care if abortion is legal or not, but if it IS legal ("My Body, MY Choice") then killing a pregnant woman eligible for an abortion should NEVER be double-murder.
2. "Nature, not Nurture" is a specious stance in regards to homosexuality since homosexuals cannot NATURALLY reproduce and the basic function of all life is procreation.

Well,

1- What if she intended raise that child? I'd agree with you if she happened to be on her way to have a abortion.
2- Homosexuality is observed in the wild and captivity. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.../02/07/MNG3N4RAV41.DTL

1. The child is either a) part of "her body", which makes abortion "her choice" but prevents the killing of it from being murder -or- b) a separate living entity which makes the killing of it a crime NO MATTER WHO PERPETUATES THE KILLING. I don't care which it is, but my belief is that the current law is hypocritical and should be amended in SOME fashion.

2. When humans evolve to the point whereby a male impregnates a male or a female impregnates a female then homosexuality will have natural credibility. Until then, it runs contrary to the basic function of life. Since reproduction is one of the 7 factors in the conventional definition of "life", homosexuality runs counter to the continuance of "life", which is an unnatural prospect.

Edited to add- In re-reading, my #2 can come across as somewhat harsh toward homosexuality, which wasn't my intent. Instead, I merely attempt to verbalize a portion of my belief that there are underlying factors to homosexuality that make me think "If nature has a vested interest in it's own continuance, why does it constantly produce pieces that do not further its interests?". I think I've also used 'nature' or 'natural' some times when I was really thinking 'genetic', which is guess is somewhat of a fallacy on my part.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
That America is highly flawed due to stealing land and killing off the native inhabitants....

Oh, and the Slave thing - kinda of a bummer as well...

Never mind the fact that Native Americans had been fighting each other off various sections of lands thousands of years previously?

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I was basically a socialist during late high school and early college, although I never admitted to being anything other than a fiscally left wing Democrat at the time. My political views have since shifted drastically after realizing the errors in my (former) ideology when applied to reality.

Some of the papers that I wrote back then may come back to haunt me....

What prompted a drastic change?


The big problem for me in my area is that people believe that because I believe individualism is the proper route for society, and that responsibility should determine success and so forth, I am labeled "an anarchist."

Kind of pathetic.