What to say to a psycho pro-bush woman

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Brick wall #2.

Yeah, if I wanted to attribute every death during this time to the coalition forces being there... I'd have an issue with this too. But I'm not that narrow minded. Enjoy your blinders and watch where you are going... You will trip over your ignorance if you are not careful.

Jackass #1, provide some evidence, any evidence, that the number of non-combattant civilians killed was less than the combattants. And yes, in the larger scope of things, almost every death can be attibuted to the coalition forces being there. Was there a war going on before we invaded? Was there an insurgency? Were there practically daily car bombings? All this is happening BECAUSE WE ARE THERE. I know this maybe too much for you to understand but please try. Oh let me guess, if we had not killed all these people, Saddam would have. Rigggght.

 

[Perknose]

What to say to a pro-Bush pycho woman?

Tell her you're pro-bush, too . . . then point.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I made the mistake of commenting, in the presence of this one woman that I found it ironic that bush was so pro-life, yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off. 🙂 know any good fuel for the fire? I'm not really that anti-bush, I think it is important to be well-balanced when considering him though.

What she is (to better assist in coming up with examples)
Christian
pro-life
pacifistic (Mennonite)

I was thinking of pointing out to her the new biometric passports, and make comparisons to the mark of the beast, as found in Revelation. I don't really care if I'm overly accurate, I just want to piss her off. 🙂 lol.

<- having an immature moment.

And only one having an immature moment such as yours would think that Bush is all for killing "thousands" of Iraqis because the US went into Iraq telling all the Iraq people that he was only there for the current leadership. Some innocents have been killed but "thouseands".... :disgust:

Are you suggesting that thousands of civilians have not been killed?

No... that is an assumption made by a simpleton.... I should have been clearer in my response. I don't hove an exact count on how many civilians have been killed. I know that the greater majority of them were enemy combatants. I can't feel bad for their loss of life and the President told them from day one that he wasn't there for anyone other that Saddam and his regime. There have been innocents killed (civilians that were not combatants) but those don't range in the thousands.

Contrary to whatever thought process you're using... We aren't over there conducting a Turky Shoot and pegging anything that moves. In military actions, there are unfortunate innocents that lose their lives.

To claim that Bush is all for going over and killing "Thousands of Iraqis" is to do nothing but ignore that we are targeting those that are trying to kill us.

Considering we went over there under false pre-tenses, any one killed there defending their country has some level of innoncence in my opinion (Not counting foreign terrorists a la Zarqawi), for if we had not started an illigitimate war, they would be alive. If someone invaded America, would you fight with all your might to defend her? Would you consider yourself a terrorist for doing so? Or maybe an enemy combattant? Who is the good guy and who is the bad guy is not as simple as black and white. That said, I don't blame either countries troops for fighting, I blame the leadership for causing the fight.
Either way, you still fail to see the fact that YES, THOUSANDS of CIVILIANS have been killed in the conflict as well.
But what would I know, I'm just a "simpleton". You "don't hove an exact count on how many civilians have been killed" but you know for sure they have not been that many. I'll take your word for it. :roll:

I'm talking to a brick wall... I never said thousands of civilians have not been killed. I stated that Thousands of non-combatant civilians have not been. There is a big difference. I don't care if you want to see that difference or not... You will always thing BUSH is wrong in anything he does and I don't intend to change anyones mind about that. I just want to voice my opinion when someone makes a statement that sounds like Bush went over and conducted a turkeyshoot by killing thousands of civilians. That is not the case.

Can you tell me how many civilians have been killed by coalition forces? Don't use that body count site... It's ALL deaths caused by both sides [edit]and the below caveat[/edit]

This includes civilian deaths resulting from the breakdown in law and order, and deaths due to inadequate health care or sanitation.

Give me a break... Guy gets infected finger from a splinter and gangreen (sp) spreads to vital organs and dies... It's the coalition's fault? :roll:

I'm talking to a brick wall? We gave you Iraq Body Count which is considered a reliable source. What evidence have you given other than your seemingly innate knowledge that thousands of non-combattant civilians have not been killed and the vast majoriy who died were holding guns? Is this because in your tiny little world America can do no wrong? If you don't trust IBC, provide a source that you do and lets compare figures.

Look for yourself... I'll use Conjurs site...
The Database

I trust that "IBC" has a good number but they #'s are all inclusive, not coalition specific. I have never said that "America can do no wrong." I actually stated that I have no doubt some innocents died. So, watch your blinders actually blocking your ignorance and your conceit.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: Perknose
What to say to a pro-Bush pycho woman?

Tell her you're pro-bush, too . . . then point.

Hahaha, I have to agree, the only pro-Bush women I like come out late night on Cinemax. 😉
Anyway, I'm out of here for now. Peace.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Brick wall #2.

Yeah, if I wanted to attribute every death during this time to the coalition forces being there... I'd have an issue with this too. But I'm not that narrow minded. Enjoy your blinders and watch where you are going... You will trip over your ignorance if you are not careful.

Jackass #1, provide some evidence, any evidence, that the number of non-combattant civilians killed was less than the combattants. And yes, in the larger scope of things, almost every death can be attibuted to the coalition forces being there. Was there a war going on before we invaded? Was there an insurgency? Were there practically daily car bombings? All this is happening BECAUSE WE ARE THERE. I know this maybe too much for you to understand but please try. Oh let me guess, if we had not killed all these people, Saddam would have. Rigggght.

You actually go beyond ignorance... You're just stupid. Go ahead and continue to hate Bush and enjoy your perfect little world.

 

[LilBlinbBlahIce]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Brick wall #2.

Yeah, if I wanted to attribute every death during this time to the coalition forces being there... I'd have an issue with this too. But I'm not that narrow minded. Enjoy your blinders and watch where you are going... You will trip over your ignorance if you are not careful.

Jackass #1, provide some evidence, any evidence, that the number of non-combattant civilians killed was less than the combattants. And yes, in the larger scope of things, almost every death can be attibuted to the coalition forces being there. Was there a war going on before we invaded? Was there an insurgency? Were there practically daily car bombings? All this is happening BECAUSE WE ARE THERE. I know this maybe too much for you to understand but please try. Oh let me guess, if we had not killed all these people, Saddam would have. Rigggght.

You actually go beyond ignorance... You're just stupid. Go ahead and continue to hate Bush and enjoy your perfect little world.

Oh really? Where have I even mentioned Bush? This is beyond Bush, this is people like you supporting something based on reasons you cannot even keep track of. But you know what, go ahead and love Bush and enjoy your perfect little world. Its easy to call people stupid when your own knowledge is so limited. Anything above what you understand has to be wrong in your happy, gun toting, Bible thumping, flag waving, A-rab killing, minds. On that note, I'm off to lunch.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I made the mistake of commenting, in the presence of this one woman that I found it ironic that bush was so pro-life, yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off. 🙂 know any good fuel for the fire? I'm not really that anti-bush, I think it is important to be well-balanced when considering him though.

What she is (to better assist in coming up with examples)
Christian
pro-life
pacifistic (Mennonite)

I was thinking of pointing out to her the new biometric passports, and make comparisons to the mark of the beast, as found in Revelation. I don't really care if I'm overly accurate, I just want to piss her off. 🙂 lol.

<- having an immature moment.

how about "I'm praying for Rush Limbaugh...to get 2-5 years."

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Brick wall #2.

Yeah, if I wanted to attribute every death during this time to the coalition forces being there... I'd have an issue with this too. But I'm not that narrow minded. Enjoy your blinders and watch where you are going... You will trip over your ignorance if you are not careful.

Jackass #1, provide some evidence, any evidence, that the number of non-combattant civilians killed was less than the combattants. And yes, in the larger scope of things, almost every death can be attibuted to the coalition forces being there. Was there a war going on before we invaded? Was there an insurgency? Were there practically daily car bombings? All this is happening BECAUSE WE ARE THERE. I know this maybe too much for you to understand but please try. Oh let me guess, if we had not killed all these people, Saddam would have. Rigggght.

You actually go beyond ignorance... You're just stupid. Go ahead and continue to hate Bush and enjoy your perfect little world.

Oh really? Where have I even mentioned Bush? This is beyond Bush, this is people like you supporting something based on reasons you cannot even keep track of. But you know what, go ahead and love Bush and enjoy your perfect little world. Its easy to call people stupid when your own knowledge is so limited. Anything above what you understand has to be wrong in your happy, gun toting, Bible thumping, flag waving, A-rab killing, minds. On that note, I'm off to lunch.

You are simply the antithesis to all you stated about your assumption of me so you are the extreme on the other side?

I will also agree with my being Happy, Gun owning (it's locked away not toted), I read and study the bible, I am very proud of the US under any president and I served in the military and feel pride in having a flag on the front of my house, "A-rab killing" not even going to go there because that does nothing but prove you're words should be taken as baseless.

You don't have to mention Bush for one to know that you're anti Bush from your comments and stand on this issue. I have provided proof of my stance to you and you refuse to see it without me taking the time to re-write what is already in print to discredit Bush.

As I have said, I don't plan on changing anyones mind... I just voice my opinion when an idiotic statement (the OP's) is made. I didn't say the OP was an idiot... Just the comment.

 

[piasabird]

Sadam killed raped and tortured people for having a political opinoin.

Maybe you are just a sadistic liberal devil worshiper, and she wants to save your soul.

The point is she has a right to live her life by her beliefs.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: Perknose
What to say to a pro-Bush pycho woman?

Tell her you're pro-bush, too . . . then point.

No innuendos, she's 55. yuck.

Thanks for the info everyone. I'm curious what she has to say about some of the stuff that has been posted here, though nothing I didn't know already, it helped to get it all summarized here.

 

[sandorski]

Some people are not worth arguing/debating/discussing with. Let her wallow in her ignorance and half-baked ideas, if she is a thinking person one day she'll realize how wrong she was.

It's like what Jesus told his disciples, tell people the Truth, if they refuse it, move on, no big whoop.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Originally posted by: Perknose
What to say to a pro-Bush pycho woman?

Tell her you're pro-bush, too . . . then point.

No innuendos, she's 55. yuck.

In that case, tell her you're gay, and hoping to get married soon. Then invite her to your bridal shower. Mention your thong size, as a helpful gift suggestion. Look extremely sincere the whole time. This last part is key.

As she's walking away in fright and disgust, scream, "Beelzebub Rules", then act all innocent and emphatically deny you said or heard anything if she responds.

Seldom will you have such an opportunity to impact another's life so profoundly. Sure, you may have to change your name and move to another town immediately, but there are always trade-offs in life . . .

Btw, if you take my advice above, you are more insane than the humor in this post. 😛

 

[Carazariah]

I'm not sure of the reliability of this research site but it seems pretty clear and rational and well sourced (not verified):

"Expressed in terms of their mid-points, our estimates of Iraqi deaths are:

Total Iraqi fatalities: 12,950 plus or minus 2,150 (16.5 percent)
Iraqi noncombatant fatalities: 3,750 plus/minus 550 (15 percent)
Iraqi combatant fatalities: 9,200 plus/minus 1,600 (17.5 percent)"

http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8.html#3.2.%20Noncombatant%20death%20toll%20outside

As an FYI for another source of deaths in Iraq and a look at Combatant Deaths:

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Carazariah
I'm not sure of the reliability of this research site but it seems pretty clear and rational and well sourced (not verified):

"Expressed in terms of their mid-points, our estimates of Iraqi deaths are:

Total Iraqi fatalities: 12,950 plus or minus 2,150 (16.5 percent)
Iraqi noncombatant fatalities: 3,750 plus/minus 550 (15 percent)
Iraqi combatant fatalities: 9,200 plus/minus 1,600 (17.5 percent)"

http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8.html#3.2.%20Noncombatant%20death%20toll%20outside

As an FYI for another source of deaths in Iraq and a look at Combatant Deaths:

And that's just between Mar.19 ~ Apr 20 2003.

 

[skgarach]

You also may want to find out why we have only 19,000 troops in Afghanistan and continue a friendship with Pakistan where Osama Bin Laden is known to hide. Keep in mind, this is the man that we are going to war with other countries for to find. Yet we have nearly 100,000 troops far away in Iraq being murdered for a black gold digging festival to make bush's friend's richer and his ego bigger...also, don't forget the millions more we've pissed off...


IF there were any political strategy to what bush has done, it is to brandish the biggest knife in front of the world in an attempt to scare them off. I personally think its tough to scare off a society that welcomes death and extremism with open arms.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I made the mistake of commenting, in the presence of this one woman that I found it ironic that bush was so pro-life, yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off. 🙂 know any good fuel for the fire? I'm not really that anti-bush, I think it is important to be well-balanced when considering him though.

What she is (to better assist in coming up with examples)
Christian
pro-life
pacifistic (Mennonite)

I was thinking of pointing out to her the new biometric passports, and make comparisons to the mark of the beast, as found in Revelation. I don't really care if I'm overly accurate, I just want to piss her off. 🙂 lol.

<- having an immature moment.

And only one having an immature moment such as yours would think that Bush is all for killing "thousands" of Iraqis because the US went into Iraq telling all the Iraq people that he was only there for the current leadership. Some innocents have been killed but "thouseands".... :disgust:

Are you suggesting that thousands of civilians have not been killed?

No... that is an assumption made by a simpleton.... I should have been clearer in my response. I don't hove an exact count on how many civilians have been killed. I know that the greater majority of them were enemy combatants. I can't feel bad for their loss of life and the President told them from day one that he wasn't there for anyone other that Saddam and his regime. There have been innocents killed (civilians that were not combatants) but those don't range in the thousands.

Contrary to whatever thought process you're using... We aren't over there conducting a Turky Shoot and pegging anything that moves. In military actions, there are unfortunate innocents that lose their lives.

To claim that Bush is all for going over and killing "Thousands of Iraqis" is to do nothing but ignore that we are targeting those that are trying to kill us.

Ladies and gentlemen, let us pause to recognize true Hall of Fame denial. One rarely sees denial this thick. Wow! (shaking head)

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I made the mistake of commenting, in the presence of this one woman that I found it ironic that bush was so pro-life, yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off. 🙂 know any good fuel for the fire? I'm not really that anti-bush, I think it is important to be well-balanced when considering him though.

What she is (to better assist in coming up with examples)
Christian
pro-life
pacifistic (Mennonite)

I was thinking of pointing out to her the new biometric passports, and make comparisons to the mark of the beast, as found in Revelation. I don't really care if I'm overly accurate, I just want to piss her off. 🙂 lol.

<- having an immature moment.

Tell her you saw her daughter with Bill Clinton. If that's not enough, tell her he asked for a cigar.

 

[0roo0roo]

ask her how she can support a man that made texas the leader of executions when he was governor. so much for pro life.

ask her if jesus would cut social services for the needy so he could cut taxes for the rich.

 

[StageLeft]

Good God some of you people are so doggedly partisan that you couldn't even give less of a damn how biased and ignorant you sound. It's the same old bush-is-satan-reincarnate vs. bush-is-jesus#2. Don't you ever tire of it? Truth and moderation in judging situations is so far out of the picture for some of you; you need to take a step back.

 

[Zephyr106]

"pacifistic (Mennonite)"

"yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off."

So her pacifism doesn't apply to Iraq???

Zephyr

 

[Moonbeam]

I see no point in pissing somebody off if in doing so your intention isn't to do some good. Pissing people off for the sake of it is a waste of spirit.

 

[Puwaha]

How about sending her this article written by Christians for Christians on why not to vote for Bush:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3114.html

It's fair and balanced from my point of view.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
I made the mistake of commenting, in the presence of this one woman that I found it ironic that bush was so pro-life, yet was all for killing thousands of Iraqis. Yikes, that set her off. 🙂 know any good fuel for the fire? I'm not really that anti-bush, I think it is important to be well-balanced when considering him though.

What she is (to better assist in coming up with examples)
Christian
pro-life
pacifistic (Mennonite)

I was thinking of pointing out to her the new biometric passports, and make comparisons to the mark of the beast, as found in Revelation. I don't really care if I'm overly accurate, I just want to piss her off. 🙂 lol.

<- having an immature moment.

Tell her you admire her good judgement and strength of conviction.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Good God some of you people are so doggedly partisan that you couldn't even give less of a damn how biased and ignorant you sound. It's the same old bush-is-satan-reincarnate vs. bush-is-jesus#2. Don't you ever tire of it? Truth and moderation in judging situations is so far out of the picture for some of you; you need to take a step back.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Good God some of you people are so doggedly partisan that you couldn't even give less of a damn how biased and ignorant you sound. It's the same old bush-is-satan-reincarnate vs. bush-is-jesus#2. Don't you ever tire of it? Truth and moderation in judging situations is so far out of the picture for some of you; you need to take a step back.

You two need to take a step back from such extremism of opinion. Wow. Settle down.