What The Texas Abortion Ban Does And What It Means For Other States

[Zorba]

Okay, back to the thread topic:

Alito is crying about the media reporting the facts: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1042...ism-of-the-shadow-docket-silly-and-misleading

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Okay, back to the thread topic:

Alito is crying about the media reporting the facts: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1042...ism-of-the-shadow-docket-silly-and-misleading

"The catchy and sinister term 'shadow docket' has been used to portray the court as having been captured by a dangerous cabal that resorts to sneaky and improper methods to get its way. And this portrayal feeds unprecedented efforts to intimidate the court or damage it as an independent institution."

Isn't that exactly what is happening?

Maybe I've been watching too much Blacklist.

 

[Sunburn74]

Okay, back to the thread topic:

Alito is crying about the media reporting the facts: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1042...ism-of-the-shadow-docket-silly-and-misleading

This guy is the most disingenuous of the bunch. He pisses on the American people's feet and says it's rain.

Secretly making huge policy changes without actually taking cases and hearing evidence and being publicly accountable is what people are talking about and he pretends like oh this is how it's always been.

 

[IronWing]

I think Texas needs Onan's Law where folks can claim a bounty for ratting out offenders.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

This guy is the most disingenuous of the bunch. He pisses on the American people's feet and says it's rain.

Secretly making huge policy changes without actually taking cases and hearing evidence and being publicly accountable is what people are talking about and he pretends like oh this is how it's always been.

If he's pissing on my feet, why do I not get the same sexual satisfaction as when a hooker pisses on my feet?

 

[IronWing]

If he's pissing on my feet, why do I not get the same sexual satisfaction as when a hooker pisses on my feet?

The hooker has a bigger schlong?

 

[Vic]

Okay, back to the thread topic:

Alito is crying about the media reporting the facts: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1042...ism-of-the-shadow-docket-silly-and-misleading

How dare the media expose the court's attempts at secrecy?

 

[VRAMdemon]

How dare the media expose the court's attempts at secrecy?

Not only that ... Alito whining about being criticized by the media or the public - You don’t want to be “intimidated.” Well, with great power comes great responsibility, and you might get criticized - oh no!! Big fucking crybaby. I'm still stunned that you can get a seat on the Supreme Court by angrily defending your alcoholism.

Apparently they’re fucking fine with Donald Trump using Twitter to let them know he expects them to rule his way in exchange for appointing them. They’re OK with Donald Trump and his operatives telling the world they’re corrupt whenever they don’t rule in his favor. They even seem to be fine with Trump operatives like Lin Wood spreading the narrative that John Robert’s adopted children are child sex slaves he received as part of some agreement with Jeffrey Epstein. Not a peep about Trump and his cult of idiots abuse of power and slander. I wonder why?!

 

[hal2kilo]

Not only that ... Alito whining about being criticized by the media or the public - You don’t want to be “intimidated.” Well, with great power comes great responsibility, and you might get criticized - oh no!! Big fucking crybaby. I'm still stunned that you can get a seat on the Supreme Court by angrily defending your alcoholism.

Apparently they’re fucking fine with Donald Trump using Twitter to let them know he expects them to rule his way in exchange for appointing them. They’re OK with Donald Trump and his operatives telling the world they’re corrupt whenever they don’t rule in his favor. They even seem to be fine with Trump operatives like Lin Wood spreading the narrative that John Robert’s adopted children are child sex slaves he received as part of some agreement with Jeffrey Epstein. Not a peep about Trump and his cult of idiots abuse of power and slander. I wonder why?!

I love how he pretends to not know the political gymnastics that have been played over the last decade or 2 to really pack the court. This is how you spell GASLIGHTING.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Okay, back to the thread topic:

Alito is crying about the media reporting the facts: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/30/1042...ism-of-the-shadow-docket-silly-and-misleading

It is worth noting that Justice Elena Kagan, another sitting Supreme Court Justice, is where this criticism originates. She wrote a dissenting opinion to the Texas ruling, saying of it:

Today’s ruling illustrates just how far the Court’s “shadow-docket” decisions may depart from the usual principles of appellate process. That ruling, as everyone must agree, is of great consequence. Yet the majority has acted without any guidance from the Court of Appeals—which is right now considering the same issues. It has reviewed only the most cursory party submissions, and then only hastily. And it barely bothers to explain its conclusion—that a challenge to an obviously unconstitutional abortion regulation backed by a wholly unprecedented enforcement scheme is unlikely to prevail. In all these ways, the majority’s decision is emblematic of too much of this Court’s shadow-docket decisionmaking [sic]—which every day becomes more unreasoned, inconsistent, and impossible to defend. I respectfully dissent.

And she was not the only one, Justices Sotomayor, Breyer, and CJ Roberts, all questioned the unprecedented use of the Shadow Docket to make this hasty ruling.
So, yes. Alito is blowing smoke up your ass. Nearly half the sitting justices also think this Court is abusing the Shadow Docket.

What Alito is really complaining about is that people have come up with a catch name for it that makes it sound interesting, so people are paying attention to what is normally a obscure technical legal procedure, something that they didn't expect to be so scrutinized. But maybe they should have realized that when they used this obscure technical procedure to make a change that affected nearly 80 million peoples lives it would get noticed.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

On hold.....

Judge orders Texas to suspend new law banning most abortions

A federal judge has ordered Texas to suspend a new law that has banned most abortions in the state since September

abcnews.go.com

 

[Greenman]

On hold.....

Judge orders Texas to suspend new law banning most abortions

A federal judge has ordered Texas to suspend a new law that has banned most abortions in the state since September

abcnews.go.com

Not even a little surprising. It was clear from day one that this thing would go down in flames.

 

[woolfe9998]

Not even a little surprising. It was clear from day one that this thing would go down in flames.

What's been clear from day one is that the SCOTUS will have to decide it rather than punt and let it stand by default. It was only a matter of how long it would take.

 

[HomerJS]

This must be one of those conservative positions confused Taj thinks that >51% of the population sides with him

 

[Greenman]

This must be one of those conservative positions confused Taj thinks that >51% of the population sides with him

It doesn't matter if 99% of the population sides with him. It was a bone head law written by idiots.

 

[Greenman]

What's been clear from day one is that the SCOTUS will have to decide it rather than punt and let it stand by default. It was only a matter of how long it would take.

Doesn't change the outcome.

 

[HomerJS]

Conservatives can't get it through their thick skulls 70% of Americans are pro choice

 

[MrSquished]

Conservatives can't get it through their thick skulls 70% of Americans are pro choice

This law showed just how shitty the core GQP is. You are just shitty people to come up with that law.

 

[woolfe9998]

Doesn't change the outcome.

So you're certain how SCOTUS will ultimately rule on this?

 

[Sunburn74]

So you're certain how SCOTUS will ultimately rule on this?

I actually think they'll shoot down this texas law but not because it blocks abortion but largely because of the mechanism its trying to use.
However, I am afraid they'll let the miss. law go through.

 

[DarthKyrie]

I actually think they'll shoot down this texas law but not because it blocks abortion but largely because of the mechanism its trying to use.
However, I am afraid they'll let the miss. law go through.

My state just passed a 7-week ban that is basically what this law was trying to be without the bounties. Dr's in New Hampshire can go to jail for 7 years for performing an abortion on anyone for any reason after 7 weeks, even when the life of the mother is at stake or the baby won't live if born. I thought abortion laws were archaic back 19 years ago when my ex and I lost our daughter. We found out she wouldn't survive at 6 months along and were told that we couldn't terminate the pregnancy and would be forced to deliver a child that would suffer before it died along with scarring numerous other people in the process.

These people are about as pro-life as I am and I want to see the human race wiped off the face of the planet.

 

[ch33zw1z]

My state just passed a 7-week ban that is basically what this law was trying to be without the bounties. Dr's in New Hampshire can go to jail for 7 years for performing an abortion on anyone for any reason after 7 weeks, even when the life of the mother is at stake or the baby won't live if born. I thought abortion laws were archaic back 19 years ago when my ex and I lost our daughter. We found out she wouldn't survive at 6 months along and were told that we couldn't terminate the pregnancy and would be forced to deliver a child that would suffer before it died along with scarring numerous other people in the process.

These people are about as pro-life as I am and I want to see the human race wiped off the face of the planet.

Live free or die? Lol...

 

[fskimospy]

I actually think they'll shoot down this texas law but not because it blocks abortion but largely because of the mechanism its trying to use.
However, I am afraid they'll let the miss. law go through.

I tend to agree they will shoot down the ‘bounty’ provision simply because of the absolute chaos that will ensue if they leave it in place.

 

[Zorba]

My state just passed a 7-week ban that is basically what this law was trying to be without the bounties. Dr's in New Hampshire can go to jail for 7 years for performing an abortion on anyone for any reason after 7 weeks, even when the life of the mother is at stake or the baby won't live if born. I thought abortion laws were archaic back 19 years ago when my ex and I lost our daughter. We found out she wouldn't survive at 6 months along and were told that we couldn't terminate the pregnancy and would be forced to deliver a child that would suffer before it died along with scarring numerous other people in the process.

These people are about as pro-life as I am and I want to see the human race wiped off the face of the planet.

I didn't realize how backwards NH was.

When my wife had a miscarriage at 13 weeks it proved to me that none of these prolife people actually think an unborn is a kid. The extreme prolife sides of my family absolutely didn't act like a kid had died.

 

[HomerJS]

I didn't realize how backwards NH was.

When my wife had a miscarriage at 13 weeks it proved to me that none of these prolife people actually think an unborn is a kid. The extreme prolife sides of my family absolutely didn't act like a kid had died.

They are all phonies because they don't give a damn once the fetus is born.

Also they don't give a damn about people walking this planet given their stance on COVID