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Zorkorist

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When none of them catch 100% of anything that's a bad idea.
You just have to make sure they are compatible.
You hurt the performance on any one virus checker by running two.

As we have discussesed, not any of the virus checkers caught this one... so running two virus checkers, is super silly.

-John
 

lxskllr

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SO someone could write a virus on Atot, post it and infect us all? Somehow, I find that hard to believe.

HTML is off in replies, but if it were turned on, a virus could be placed into a reply. As it is, there's no way for the page to interpret code with the given permissions(excepting bbcode). You'd have to take an active part in infecting yourself from a forum post(here).
 

Matthiasa

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You hurt the performance on any one virus checker by running two.

As we have discussesed, not any of the virus checkers caught this one... so running two virus checkers, is super silly.

-John

Ruining performance??? they use like maybe 1% each tops... usually not even that though.
 

lxskllr

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Ruining performance??? they use like maybe 1% each tops... usually not even that though.

They can interfere with each other You NEVER run 2 A/Vs at the same time. You can have multiple installed for scanning purposes, but there should only be 1 guard active at any time.
 

Zorkorist

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HTML is off in replies, but if it were turned on, a virus could be placed into a reply. As it is, there's no way for the page to interpret code with the given permissions(excepting bbcode). You'd have to take an active part in infecting yourself from a forum post(here).
If a browser can be hijacked (which it can) then any text, in any thread is vulnerable.

There's no question that we all are browing the net, at our own risk.

And it is extremely risky to some folks.

Experienced people like us, can still be caught.

-John
 

Matthiasa

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They can interfere with each other You NEVER run 2 A/Vs at the same time. You can have multiple installed for scanning purposes, but there should only be 1 guard active at any time.

Eh what kind of interference?
I haven't noticed anything odd, and boot time scans don't detect anything ever either,when I've run them.
 

lxskllr

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If a browser can be hijacked (which it can) then any text, in any thread is vulnerable.

There's no question that we all are browing the net, at our own risk.

And it is extremely risky to some folks.

Experienced people like us, can still be caught.

-John

I thought the premise was plain text can act as a virus merely by existing. That's incorrect. The browser needs to be prepared to interpret the code as being executable. I can write viruses in Notepad all day long, but they won't do anything until they're put in an environment that can use them.
 

lxskllr

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Eh what kind of interference?
I haven't noticed anything odd, and boot time scans don't detect anything ever either,when I've run them.

False positives, false negatives, interfering with legitimate programs.... Just because you haven't had problems yet, doesn't mean it can't happen in the future. I challenge you to find any credible source that's even neutral on the issue of running 2 A/V products in guard mode.
 

Matthiasa

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I've had false positives from it, but they are stupidly blatant ones.
And false negatives would have me detecting stuff when I actually do full system scans, which is needless to say rare.
 

Zorkorist

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You cant just run a bunch of virus checkers, and think you are safe.

One, good virus checker, and always staying on alert, is the minimum for feeling safe.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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By that reasoning, babies wouldn't walk.

The internet is safe enough for those that know what they are doing.

It IS very scary for folks that think they need to run multiple anti-virus.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I haven't seen anything since they turned off the ads.

Pretty obvious that it was the ads.

-John
 

Matthiasa

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By that reasoning, babies wouldn't walk.

The internet is safe enough for those that know what they are doing.

It IS very scary for folks that think they need to run multiple anti-virus.

-John

I don't think I need to, avira antivar detects far more then the other ones I've used by a lot. It just didn't detect this.
 

Zorkorist

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Someone in this thread posted how they got a virus and removed it.

Look back at early posts.

-John
 

Analog

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I was hosed by this last night, now I understand where I got it from... :roll;

anyway, I had to boot into safe mode to get rid of it. I ended up deleting it manually, as I found the .exe that caused it. BTW, I'm running Firefox 3.6.2 with Symantec Endpoint (latest version). After deleting it, I ran malwarebytes, and it took care of the rest. What a pain!!
 

Anubis

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while i hope everyone is "safe" and all of this shit gets fixed, I haven't seen it yet, Pretty sure the fact that i have 70k lines in my hosts file blocking shit is the reason why.
 

gaidensensei

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Care to share your hosts file? Always looking to improve mine, it's only 2k.

I haven't seen it either, atleast I don't think so. Running some tests.
 

Matthiasa

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while i hope everyone is "safe" and all of this shit gets fixed, I haven't seen it yet, Pretty sure the fact that i have 70k lines in my hosts file blocking shit is the reason why.

I only had avast detect anything. :p

But yeah huge stuff blocking things would prevent it maybe.
 

Zorkorist

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It's easier to just white-list, Anubis.

Everything is black, until you white-list them.

-John