what smartphones have the same sensitivity in the touchscreen as Apple?

[elitejp]

Some friends of mine have the 3gs and/or 4g. I personally dont like apple products and dont want to buy one, except for the fact that what i have seen from the iphones is that the screen sensitivity is amazing. Especially when scrolling through pictures. Now unfortunately Ive only had very brief playtime with other smartphones (specifically the nokia n8) while at a store. So basically you dont really know what your doing if your new to the system. But this has been my experience so far with some of the smartphones that ive picked up and played with..and that is that the the screen just doesnt seem to be as responsive as the iphones, as in it seems slower or just doesnt recognize when i touch the screen. My thought is that surely there are other phones that equal the iphone in this respect. So does anybody else have this experience or think that their phone is extremely responsive?

 

[Dulanic]

I haven't seen many devices lately that aren't sensative and responsive for the touchscreen. But I haven't run out and used a Nokia either.

 

[alent1234]

that's the classic apple fetishes. nice screen and power/battery efficiency. everyone else goes for CPU/LTE on the spec sheet

 

[TheStu]

It isn't the screen sensitivity so much as system responsiveness. WinPho7 has it, but is lacking in many other areas compared to Android or iOS.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Samsungs' Super AMOLED screens are every bit as good as Apple's touchscreens so either one of the Galaxy S phones (i9000,Captivate,Fascinate,Epic,Vibrant, Mesmerize ), the Nexus S, Droid Charge, or Focus would be a good option.

 

[finbarqs]

that "smoothness" is a GPU accelerated UI. Go out and try a Windows Phone 7, and you'll see it's just as "smooth" as responsive as Apple's iPhone. Even when scrolling through pictures and pinching and zooming!

 

[shortylickens]

Well, if anybody were to put RIM's QNX Playbook OS on a phone I'm sure they'd be very impressed with it. Having proper prioritizing for the desktop makes a huge difference.

 

[finbarqs]

though it's fast, it's still not as smooth as iOS and WP7 "Metro UI". It's like a really fast Android OS, but it stays the same speed! There's just a slight delay... not much, but you can feel it.

 

[elitejp]

Ok I think you guys have hit the nail on the head. Its the smoothness that i have seen in the apple phones and havent seen in the some of the other brands. Maybe ive just been unfortunate in the phones that i have tested but reality currently dictates that i dont have time to go to different phone stores to test every one out. So I appreciate the advice so far.:thumbsup:

The super amoloid screens are something that i could really get used to. I like the idea of actually being able to see text messages and phone numbers clearly on my phone while using it in sunlight.

So in looking at the spec sheet if it says gpu accelerated Ui then that should be a good indication that it should have a quick response time?

 

[Zen0]

Ok I think you guys have hit the nail on the head. Its the smoothness that i have seen in the apple phones and havent seen in the some of the other brands. Maybe ive just been unfortunate in the phones that i have tested but reality currently dictates that i dont have time to go to different phone stores to test every one out. So I appreciate the advice so far.:thumbsup:

The super amoloid screens are something that i could really get used to. I like the idea of actually being able to see text messages and phone numbers clearly on my phone while using it in sunlight.

So in looking at the spec sheet if it says gpu accelerated Ui then that should be a good indication that it should have a quick response time?

The reality is that no other devices have the smoothness of Apple.

 

[runawayprisoner]

Ok I think you guys have hit the nail on the head. Its the smoothness that i have seen in the apple phones and havent seen in the some of the other brands. Maybe ive just been unfortunate in the phones that i have tested but reality currently dictates that i dont have time to go to different phone stores to test every one out. So I appreciate the advice so far.:thumbsup:

The super amoloid screens are something that i could really get used to. I like the idea of actually being able to see text messages and phone numbers clearly on my phone while using it in sunlight.

So in looking at the spec sheet if it says gpu accelerated Ui then that should be a good indication that it should have a quick response time?

Super AMOLED is actually horrible under sunlight. Very, very horrible.

And no, GPU accelerated UI is not on the specs sheet.

It's on either Apple's iPhone or Windows Phone 7 phones. No other phone has it. Period, no hidden line or secret tiny text.

Or just to make it short: there is no other phone as "smooth" as the iPhone.

 

[elitejp]

Well thats not good for those who dont really want an iphone

 

[poofyhairguy]

A smooth interface is Apple's claim to fame. Back when Windows XP was the primary Windows OS, Apple had smooth as butter OSX that made XP look like a garbage heap when it came to responsiveness.

The trick is, just like in the Windows XP days: Does the phone do what you want, and can you deal with a little GUI crappiness to do what you want? Millions of people picked XP instead of OSX back in the day, so it not all about interface responsiveness.

Other trick is that Android phones can be much more powerful (dual core, etc.) than current iPhones. Get a dual core monster-ish Android phone and the shear CPU power of the device will make the interface "responsive enough."

 

[Glitchny]

Super AMOLED is actually horrible under sunlight. Very, very horrible.

And no, GPU accelerated UI is not on the specs sheet.

It's on either Apple's iPhone or Windows Phone 7 phones. No other phone has it. Period, no hidden line or secret tiny text.

Or just to make it short: there is no other phone as "smooth" as the iPhone.

so you're saying that Android doesn't have GPU acceleration? after they added it awhile ago?

@OP I've used both an iPhone4 and played around with the newer Android devices and the difference in "smoothness" is negligible. I guess if most of the use on the phone is spent swiping it's an important thing, I don't end up dealing with it much. I only use 3 home screens so limited swiping, I spend most of the time scrolling through the applist, or the dock bar in launcherPro.

 

[smartpatrol]

Other trick is that Android phones can be much more powerful (dual core, etc.) than current iPhones. Get a dual core monster-ish Android phone and the shear CPU power of the device will make the interface "responsive enough."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEdxqZt6uw

Not necessarily. Witness the WP7 Samsung Focus, with its old 1st gen Snapdragon, putting the Atrix to shame with its dual-core Tegra 2.

 

[runawayprisoner]

so you're saying that Android doesn't have GPU acceleration? after they added it awhile ago?

Nope. Zip. Nada. Only Android 3.0 Honeycomb has some form of GPU acceleration. And 3.0 is obviously not available on phones.

This thread wouldn't exist otherwise:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914

I don't know how "awhile ago" it is, but I do know for a fact that it hasn't happened up until right before 3.0. And it doesn't even work all the time in 3.0. The technical reason was given by an engineer in a reply somewhere along the top of that thread.

Edit: Here:

This is something we've investigated a couple of years ago already and that we revisit
regularly. Of course we thought of using the GPU, but there are non-trivial issues on
many Android devices (a G1-class device for instance supports only one OpenGL
context at a time, which would prevent you from using any OpenGL based app like
games or augmented reality apps.) In our past experiments we even found many
cases in which using the GPU was slower than normal rendering.

New devices might allow us to overcome the past limitations that made GPU support
a not-so-good solution.

The "choppiness" and "lagginess" you are mentioning are more often related to heavy
garbage collection than drawing performance.

I'd take a wild guess and say that this is the reason why 3.0 is not available for phones yet and why Tegra 2 is being used as the base, but I could be wrong.

 

[Glitchny]

Nope. Zip. Nada. Only Android 3.0 Honeycomb has some form of GPU acceleration. And 3.0 is obviously not available on phones.

This thread wouldn't exist otherwise:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914

I don't know how "awhile ago" it is, but I do know for a fact that it hasn't happened up until right before 3.0. And it doesn't even work all the time in 3.0. The technical reason was given by an engineer in a reply somewhere along the top of that thread.

Edit: Here:

Ahh my bad was back in March when they released it, thought it was an earlier version.

That dev also alludes to the fact that GPU acceleration isn't the holy grail of fixing the ui and that other things may be more important to fix performance. And that quote from the dev was from over a year ago, before they put GPU acceleration in 3.0.

Regardless there are plenty of Android phones that don't suffer from "laggy" UI's and many that do.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEdxqZt6uw

Not necessarily. Witness the WP7 Samsung Focus, with its old 1st gen Snapdragon, putting the Atrix to shame with its dual-core Tegra 2.

That's Motoblur's fault not Android. Unlike the Atrix my Captivate has the default Android gallery and it can easily keep up with the Focus.

Also Gingerbread does have partial GPU acceleration.

 

[Dulanic]

Super AMOLED is actually horrible under sunlight. Very, very horrible.

And no, GPU accelerated UI is not on the specs sheet.

It's on either Apple's iPhone or Windows Phone 7 phones. No other phone has it. Period, no hidden line or secret tiny text.

Or just to make it short: there is no other phone as "smooth" as the iPhone.

Correction, AMOLED is shit in sunlight. Super AMOLED is about equal to LCD in direct sunlight. However, indoors Super AMOLED is much more vibrant than LCD. Either way this isn't a screen quality discussion but you're very very horrible statement is dead wrong.

 

[RedRooster]

Near the end of my 3GS's run, the newest update(4.3.x) had actually made it choppier than in the past, and I can definitely say my WP7 at this point is faster/smoother than my 3GS was when I got rid of it. The IP4 is probably way better, but I can't believe how smooth the WP7 UI is.

 

[Dulanic]

Near the end of my 3GS's run, the newest update(4.3.x) had actually made it choppier than in the past, and I can definitely say my WP7 at this point is faster/smoother than my 3GS was when I got rid of it. The IP4 is probably way better, but I can't believe how smooth the WP7 UI is.

I still haven't had the opportunity to try out WP7. However, I would like to test it out at some point. I think I am just holding off until they give WP7 some more upgrades for things that should have been included from the start. However, no phone is perfect from the start so it is understandable.

 

[poofyhairguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEdxqZt6uw

Not necessarily. Witness the WP7 Samsung Focus, with its old 1st gen Snapdragon, putting the Atrix to shame with its dual-core Tegra 2.

The downside/upside to Android is that Google is allowing developers to replace core apps with ones that ARE GPU accelerated.

You want a GPU accelerated browser on Android? The default one sucks, but Opera Mobile (no mini) will pinch zoom or scroll just as smooth as mobile Safari.

You want a GPU accelerated launcher? The default one sucks, but the paid-for Launcher Pro uses the GPU and is as smooth as butter.

Eventually even if Google never fixes the GPU acceleration problems in Android (which is understandable, only Apple and Microsoft have that kind of talent in-house), the third party market will fix most of the problems eventually.

 

[s44]

Galaxy S is just as responsive as any iPhone (according to envious iPhone owners who've played with my device).

 

[MrX8503]

Galaxy S is just as responsive as any iPhone (according to envious iPhone owners who've played with my device).

I've used a few of the Galaxy S series and its not as responsive. Even the dual core ones from Moto aren't quite there.

 

[finbarqs]

galaxy S is just as responsive, when you're not moving fast. But when you're running through multiple things, that's when you see the Galaxy S chug.

Like everyone says... or just a couple of people, the ONLY PHONE that has a UI that's as smooth as APPLE's iphone is WP7.

A lot of people haven't even touched WP7 yet, and only had Android as their device to compare "smoothness". Fact is, I have an EVO 4G. I paid for Launcher Pro. It's faster than HTC Sense. But not as fast as Vanilla Android. And even then, it's still not as fast as iphone nor WP7.

People will deny it, or say it's not a big deal, but it's there, and you feel it!