What Protestant, Evangelical Christian colleges have the best engineering programs?

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

Better question.

Is Thomas Edison alive today?

Would Thomas Edison get a job TODAY if he had the education he had?

Stating the obvious, you aren't Thomas Edison. Stating the obvious, you'll need a good education if you expect a high paying job in the 21st century.

I think the fact that Thomas Edison isn't alive today speaks volumes. If he'd gone to a better school, he'd still be around.

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

Be real. That's a horrible comparison.

Plus, you don't think places of employment will consider where you went to college? If two people are up for a job, and the deciding factor is georgia tech vs a less respected engineering school, who do you think gets the job?

Duke is the 30th ranked engineering school according to usnews & world report.

 

[TheLonelyPhoenix]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

*sigh*

I'm Greek-Orthodox Christian. I do not go to a Christian engineering school. I go to a state school with an excellent engineering program, where I have many available opportunities for my education that I wouldn't get elsewhere. There are many, many Christian organizations (and organizations for other faiths as well) that I could participate in at my own discretion, if I chose to.

And I'd much rather be at a school where I can work with people who don't think exactly like me. Better to get used to it in college rather than the real world.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

Better question.

Is Thomas Edison alive today?

Would Thomas Edison get a job TODAY if he had the education he had?

Stating the obvious, you aren't Thomas Edison. Stating the obvious, you'll need a good education if you expect a high paying job in the 21st century.

No, but I do have 52 US patents and a track record of commercializing new products. And I went to a small Catholic liberal arts college you've probably never heard of.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I think the fact that Thomas Edison isn't alive today speaks volumes. If he'd gone to a better school, he'd still be around.

That wasn't the point.

The point was to demonstrate the difference in time periods.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor
I think the fact that Thomas Edison isn't alive today speaks volumes. If he'd gone to a better school, he'd still be around.

That wasn't the point.

The point was to demonstrate the difference in time periods.

I'm just saying that if he would have gone to a better school he probably could have devised an invention to stave off mortality, that's all.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'm just saying that if he would have gone to a better school he probably could have devised an invention to stave off mortality, that's all.

:roll:

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

Rip -- I am a case in point that it it's what you know, not where you learn it. My undergrad degree is in Business Administration, and I'm a law school drop out. I tinkered with electronics as a kid, and I got more into it when, as a playing musician, I was the most affordable tech I knew to fix my own gear.

At this point, I have a couple of patents and a good number of successful product designs and custom projects under my belt. That said, I still wish I had the formal education. It would have saved a lot of time, grunt work and toasted transistors on the way to whatever I'm able to do, now.

I've also met some of the worst and dumbest engineers on the planet with EE degrees. A good education is a set of tools. It doesn't guarantee you'll be good at using them. Talent is the ability to use those tools to solve problems. A good helping of creativity gives you the ability to use them like a palette of paints to invent new, imaginative solutions.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: CptObvious
I've visited a few Christian colleges and I honestly don't see what they offer that you can't get at any public university.

If you don't want your morals corrupted by normal college life, you can always live off-campus, join a student Christian association and only associate with them. Most universities offer studies in religion and you can pick courses taught with a pro-Christian view.

If being in a diverse group of people scares you, you're going to have problems when you start working. After all, supposedly Jesus chose to associate himself among society's 'undesirables,' unlike many evangelicals today with their WWJD signs.

Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 30. There's something to be said for preparation.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 33. There's something to be said for preparation.

Trivia is a wonderful thing. You would do well on Jeopardy or Trivial Pursuit 🙂

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: CptObvious
I've visited a few Christian colleges and I honestly don't see what they offer that you can't get at any public university.

If you don't want your morals corrupted by normal college life, you can always live off-campus, join a student Christian association and only associate with them. Most universities offer studies in religion and you can pick courses taught with a pro-Christian view.

If being in a diverse group of people scares you, you're going to have problems when you start working. After all, supposedly Jesus chose to associate himself among society's 'undesirables,' unlike many evangelicals today with their WWJD signs.

Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 33. There's something to be said for preparation.

Like working as a carpenter?

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'm just saying that if he would have gone to a better school he probably could have devised an invention to stave off mortality, that's all.

:roll:

Clearly you went to an inferior engineering school, as your sarcasm meter failed to register from the first time I posted in this thread. 😛

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Clearly you went to an inferior engineering school, as your sarcasm meter failed to register from the first time I posted in this thread. 😛

😉

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: CptObvious
I've visited a few Christian colleges and I honestly don't see what they offer that you can't get at any public university.

If you don't want your morals corrupted by normal college life, you can always live off-campus, join a student Christian association and only associate with them. Most universities offer studies in religion and you can pick courses taught with a pro-Christian view.

If being in a diverse group of people scares you, you're going to have problems when you start working. After all, supposedly Jesus chose to associate himself among society's 'undesirables,' unlike many evangelicals today with their WWJD signs.

Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 33. There's something to be said for preparation.

Like working as a carpenter?

Yeah, he was building that big horse thing that him and his disciples hid in when they invaded Rome. That's why Jesus was a carpenter.

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Did Thomas Edison go to a top 20 engineering school?

The answer is no, he had very little formal education.

There more to being a good engineer than just graduating from a well rated university.

Better question.

Is Thomas Edison alive today?

Would Thomas Edison get a job TODAY if he had the education he had?

Stating the obvious, you aren't Thomas Edison. Stating the obvious, you'll need a good education if you expect a high paying job in the 21st century.

No, but I do have 52 US patents and a track record of commercializing new products. And I went to a small Catholic liberal arts college you've probably never heard of.

I bet I can count on my fingers the number of people with your background that have had the kind of success you have had, now compare that to the number of people who went to a conventional university/college and are extremely successful

 

[Kadarin]

Is your own faith so weak that you're afraid to be around people who have different ideas than you do? If this is for someone else, are you afraid that person's faith is equally weak? And do you think being in such a homogenously Christian environment will make faith that much stronger? And, if you're so afraid of losing that faith, what does that say about your entire belief system as a whole?

What's the point of this exercise? Is this to ensure the continuous and uninterrupted forcefeeding of religious indoctrination and propaganda into an undeveloped mind that's still in its "formative years"?

 

[Harvey]

Rip -- You have 52 U.S. patents? That impresses me more than anything you've ever posted. Please tells us more about them. Links, please.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 33. There's something to be said for preparation.

Trivia is a wonderful thing. You would do well on Jeopardy or Trivial Pursuit 🙂

The point is, when you're in college, you're still in your formative years. Heck, I've read that the brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid-20s.

If Jesus didn't go out into the "real world" to start his ministry until he was 30, why should you throw a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Check out CCCU.org. That will give you places to check out.


To the other posters, STFU 😛

It's a reasonable question and no one (Rip or anyone else) should have to defend themselves for it.

 

[sciencewhiz]

LeTourneau in Texas.

Statement of Faith: http://www.letu.edu/opencms/opencms/_Co...ia/about-letourneau/Faith-and-Mission/
Engineering: http://www.letu.edu/opencms/export/syst...ad/departmentBrochures/Engineering.pdf


Compare the companies that hire LeTourneau graduates compared to grove city graduates, as well as where the students go on for advanced degrees:
http://www.letu.edu/opencms/opencms/_Ac...s/Engineering/engineering/careers.html
http://www.gcc.edu/academics/sciences/engineering/employment.htm


I didn't go to either, but researched both, and LeTourneau came out far ahead.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Heck, I've read that the brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid-20s.

Hey! A fact! :thumbsup:

If Jesus didn't go out into the "real world" to start his ministry until he was 30, why should you throw a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves?

How is going to a non religious college "throw[ing] a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves"?

Also, assuming your 52 patent claim is true, why do you need to go back to college?

Or are you looking into this for someone else?

 

[rockyct]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Jesus didn't start his public ministry until he was 33. There's something to be said for preparation.

Trivia is a wonderful thing. You would do well on Jeopardy or Trivial Pursuit 🙂

The point is, when you're in college, you're still in your formative years. Heck, I've read that the brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid-20s.

If Jesus didn't go out into the "real world" to start his ministry until he was 30, why should you throw a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves?

No offense, but you're going to get exposed to sin at every college. A family friend of our got kicked out of a Christian school because she got pregnant...and she wasn't married. My point is that I don't think Christians are called to isolate themselves from the "real world." I think college is a time where you really make a decision whether you want to be a firm Christian. It's easy for people to go through the motions before college because of their parents, etc., but in college, you make the decisions. If you desire to stay firm in your faith, you can do that at almost any college.

I'm getting an EE degree at a public university in California, and before you shudder, realize that there are about 1,500 students, out of 18,000 who attend, in an active Christian organization on campus. I sought out a group and joined. Now I'm a Bible study leader and I'm going on a mission's trip this summer. In fact, I'm leaving tomorrow for a week long manuscript study. I have grown as a Christian so much in college, and I think even more than if I were to go to a Christian school. If I wanted to skip church to sleep in, I could do that. If I wanted to skip our worship meeting, I could do that. If I wanted to get drunk, I could walk down the street to a frat house and get drunk. It is that choice that made me a strong Christian and have a very personal relation with Christ.

Sin can find you anywhere, but you have to allow yourself to be consumed by it. I don't think as Christians we are called to isolate ourselves from non-Christians, but to go out and spread the Word to those who need it. I can understand your desire to be surrounded by other Christians, but I hope you'll reconsider.

 

[Miramonti]

Some christians feel they would be a good witness and testimony among other students at secular schools, perhaps leading a walk less personally manipulated towards self-pacification than only surrounding oneself with others of the same faith, and thus more directed towards greater selfless goals that may have a more valuable and lasting impact towards fulfilling the vision of one's creator.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Some christians feel they would be a good witness and testimony among other students at secular schools, perhaps leading a walk less personally manipulated towards self-pacification than only surrounding oneself with others of the same faith, and thus more directed towards greater selfless goals that may have a more valuable and lasting impact towards fulfilling the vision of one's creator.

:Q:thumbsup:

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Heck, I've read that the brain isn't fully developed until you're in your mid-20s.

Hey! A fact! :thumbsup:

If Jesus didn't go out into the "real world" to start his ministry until he was 30, why should you throw a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves?

How is going to a non religious college "throw[ing] a 17 - 18 year-old to the wolves"?

Also, assuming your 52 patent claim is true, why do you need to go back to college?

Or are you looking into this for someone else?

Yeah, my kids.