What Photoshop 6 book should i get?

[d1abolic]

I want to buy myself a good Photoshop book. I know most of the basics, but i would still like something that covers them just to get the parts that i don't know. So what should i buy?

Also, my mother is looking for a book herself. She needs one for complete and total newbies. What should she get?

And finally, when will Photoshop 7 books coming out? Will there be books that only cover the newest features, so that i don't have to read everything all over again?

 

[amnesiac]

I had the Photoshop 6 Bible a while ago. It was pretty good.

 

[aimn]

Adobe Photoshop 6 classroom in a book

 

[d1abolic]

Anyone else?

 

[LordMaul]

Niether. Learn 7.

 

[lowtech1]

Adobe Photoshop Classroom in abook is a very good book for beginer. But the better route is to go for one of those Learning by Doing/Viewing book to start you off, then go for the Phot Shop Bible & Advance Technique.

 

[Phuz]

Don't buy a book.. laaame.

Use online tutorials..
I learnt everything from the net and from JUST MESSING AROUND.
Book = waste of money for something like photoshop.

 

[Adul]

go with online tutorials and user groups. And play around with stuff. continue to play with stuff whenever you can.

 

[d1abolic]

I've done my share of online tutorials. But i don't know some of the basics, and i'm not about to go digging around for them one by one. Actually, i need two books - one for my mom. I think i'll get her the Classroom in a Book, since that sounds like the perfect book for a total newbie. Considering the Bible myself. What's the difference between the Photoshop Bible and the Photoshop Bible For Windows?

 

[Phuz]

d1abolic, I don't get it.

You ask all these questions with graphics related threads. I answer them, as do many otheres with experience. Yet you disregard the advice.. Go ahead and waste your money on a book.



<< I've done my share of online tutorials. >>



I bet. See my sig, so have I.

 

[d1abolic]

Phuz, no tutorial covers the program in as much detail as a 1200-page book. I'm sure it's completely possible to become a pro without reading one, but at this time, i think that a book would be the right way to go for me. Plus, after i'm done with it, i'll just turn around and sell it to a buddy of mine who i know is gonna want it.

 

[Kelvrick]

<< Niether. Learn 7. >>


I'd have to agree with that.

 

[Phuz]

Books will teach what was trendy/popular at the time of its release. It will make you conform to whats "current".

A book can NOT teach you how to be "pro", or how to have style..
A book will simply be tutorials that were more than likely inspired by the designs you see on the net.

I can justify spending money on a 3DSM book.. but.. PS?




<< Niether. Learn 7. >>



Well.. uh.. Since you could probably use PS4 tutorials on PS7... it is the same program people.

 

[d1abolic]

Like i said though, i'm not really spending. The book costs $115CDN here. I'll sell it off for $80. So i lose $35. No biggie.

 

[notfred]

<< A book can NOT teach you how to be "pro". >>



No, the book written by graphics professionals won't teach you how to be a pro, but the online tutorials written by 16 year old kids working with pirated copies of photoshop and Kai's power tools, and "just messing around" will.

Phuz - I suppose you work in graphic design?

 

[LordMaul]

<< No, the book written by graphics professionals won't teach you how to be a pro, but the online tutorials written by 16 year old kids working with pirated copies of photoshop and Kai's power tools, and "just messing around" will.

Phuz - I suppose you work in graphic design? >>




Sorry notfred, Phuz is easily more knowledgable in Photochop than you are, if I am thinking quite right at the moment. Everything I've learned(now, granted, I may not be a 'professional' in the sense you are most aquainted with) I have gotten from doing about 8 Photoshop tutorials, about an hour of reading a few Photoshop books at the local bookstore, and the rest just 'messing around(Read - trying all the different uses and effects and buttons and seeing just what they do, and how they can be incorporated into normal use rather than making some 'cool' looking smudge of colors or something) in Photoshop. Then, I see how far I can take each use inside PS.

I didn't take classes, read books, study for months and finally suddenly become a Photoshop genious. Reading books, for me, just DOESN'T work unless you want to learn just what the job of ______ is, which in that case you run over to Borders/B&N, grab a book, look it up, say "Oh, I get it!" go home and try it out.

Oh, and I take it that you're inferring that online tutorials are all done by pimply faced kiddies who ripped PS from Direct Connect and managed to bevel the word, "Fsck" in Arial, right?

I'm sure you know Illustrator and pro logo design much better than most people here on the board, but when it comes to stuff like Phuz does...well...I think he has an upper hand.

 

[d1abolic]

I'm not saying that i will instantly become a professional after reading a book. But it'll help. Hell, i can probably have it finished in a couple of days - i'll just skip through the stuff i won't need and stuff i already know. And since i have 2 weeks to return it, i don't think i'll end up paying at all.

 

[Kelvrick]

<< I'm not saying that i will instantly become a professional after reading a book. But it'll help. Hell, i can probably have it finished in a couple of days - i'll just skip through the stuff i won't need and stuff i already know. And since i have 2 weeks to return it, i don't think i'll end up paying at all. >>


Bah, if you're going to do that, just bring a laptop into the bookstore, like I did.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

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<< I'm not saying that i will instantly become a professional after reading a book. But it'll help. Hell, i can probably have it finished in a couple of days - i'll just skip through the stuff i won't need and stuff i already know. And since i have 2 weeks to return it, i don't think i'll end up paying at all. >>


Bah, if you're going to do that, just bring a laptop into the bookstore, like I did. >>



Good idea, I wish I had a decent laptop that'd run Photoshop But yeah, I'd say, judging by Phuz's site, you should take more heed to his advice than you are, he obviously knows what he's talking about.

 

[OREOSpeedwagon]

<< And finally, when will Photoshop 7 books coming out? Will there be books that only cover the newest features, so that i don't have to read everything all over again? >>



Oh yeah, Photoshop 7 is out already, it has been for a few months now There aren't a whole lot of new features in it, so you should be able to take the knowledge of 6 and use it fairly easily with 7.

 

[Phuz]

<< << I'm not saying that i will instantly become a professional after reading a book. But it'll help. Hell, i can probably have it finished in a couple of days - i'll just skip through the stuff i won't need and stuff i already know. And since i have 2 weeks to return it, i don't think i'll end up paying at all. >>


Bah, if you're going to do that, just bring a laptop into the bookstore, like I did. >>




Ahahahahah. If you actually did that, i'd like to shake your hand.

 

[Kelvrick]

<< Good idea, I wish I had a decent laptop that'd run Photoshop But yeah, I'd say, judging by Phuz's site, you should take more heed to his advice than you are, he obviously knows what he's talking about. >>


So, is this a challenge? Are you saying I don't know my photoshop? Not to say anything about Phuz's work, but I could do any of that on his site. Granted, I'm not professional and can't do some of the graphics as quick as he can, but I can do them just fine.



<< Ahahahahah. If you actually did that, i'd like to shake your hand. >>


You must have some barnes and nobles where you are, right? I'd often go there to study during high school and bring along my laptop to type and such. When I finished, but others with me where still going strong, I'd load up photoshop, or dreamweaver, or flash and get cranking with the tutorial books. I'd often spend days at B&N's during summers learning fireworks, dreamweaver, html, photoshop, and 3d studio max. My next goal is to learn lightwave though.

The people there got to know me. They would just step over my cable as I busted out my AC adaptor and plugged it into the wall outlet. Granted, I would have made them a lot of money by buying those books, but I bought plenty of fiction books and food and drinks there.

 

[notfred]

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<< No, the book written by graphics professionals won't teach you how to be a pro, but the online tutorials written by 16 year old kids working with pirated copies of photoshop and Kai's power tools, and "just messing around" will.

Phuz - I suppose you work in graphic design? >>




Sorry notfred, Phuz is easily more knowledgable in Photochop than you are, if I am thinking quite right at the moment. Everything I've learned(now, granted, I may not be a 'professional' in the sense you are most aquainted with) I have gotten from doing about 8 Photoshop tutorials, about an hour of reading a few Photoshop books at the local bookstore, and the rest just 'messing around(Read - trying all the different uses and effects and buttons and seeing just what they do, and how they can be incorporated into normal use rather than making some 'cool' looking smudge of colors or something) in Photoshop. Then, I see how far I can take each use inside PS. >>



I know Phuz is a good designer. His website in fact looks awesome. However there's a lot of other stuff that goes into professional graphics besides jsut the design (Although if you can't design worth a crap, there's not much point in knowing the other stuff). I doubt Phuz has ever dealt with line screens, and he probably doesn't know what a "rich black" is. There's more to graphics than what people normally teach themselves, and there's very few online tutorials in these things. But, you can probably find them in a book. The actual pros (by pros I mean people who get paid) know a lot of things that you're not liekly to pick up on your own. Whether these things apply to what you want to do, I don't know.



<< Oh, and I take it that you're inferring that online tutorials are all done by pimply faced kiddies who ripped PS from Direct Connect and managed to bevel the word, "Fsck" in Arial, right? >>



No, not all of them, but a lot of them.

 

[MaxDSP]

I learned a lot of PS by reading some books but I learned a lot more by just experimenting and playing around with it. The way I see it, some people have a natural ability at things, be it cars, computers, photoshop, microwaving CDs, etc. What works for you may not work for someone else.

I have a friend that has an uncanny ability to program in C++, yet he probably couldnt tell the difference between a sound card and a video card. I, on the other hand, am relatively knowledgeable about computers but put give me a page of C++ code and Ill look like a monkey doing a math problem. (gotta love foxworthy )


EDIT: PHUZ, or anyone else for that matter, would you be able to point me to some GOOD PS tutorials?

 

[d1abolic]

Can we get back on topic here? Recommend some books, guys!