What party are you registered with?

[feralkid]

Stonecutters & Snakewhackers.


and No, if you need to ask, you can't join.



:clock:

 

[IGBT]

Democrat..nevertheless disappointed in the nut case enviro wakos and one world socialists that have hiJacked the party..and the fundamental lack of support for the tax payer and consumer working class that at one time was the hallmark of the democratic party...

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: PaperclipGod

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
Was a Democrat in my younger days , when I started making real money and saw how taxes worked , changed to Republican . Most folks get a bit more conservative as they age .

Yep...

If you dont have much money, youre a democrat. If youve made a good life for yourself, youre a republican.

Disclaimer: Please spare me the "BUT" exceptions.

Oh? Then lets hear how wealthy and important you are I'm dieing. Meanwhile I know Liberals who could buy you a many times over and there right here in these forums not to mention Warren Buffet. Of course the are conservatives the same..

However my sense from reading conservative hillbillies and rednecks accross the land is thier all Millionaire Wannabes

Of course eventually, these guy realize that not only are they not millionaires, they?re not making much progress toward that noble goal. That?s when they get ugly. You see, they see themselves as capable, intelligent, hard working people - and they are for the most part - who ?have what it takes? to ?make it?. They believe that the difference between those who ?make it? and those who don?t is being ?capable, intelligent and hardworking?. Things like ?having rich parents?, ?getting just plain lucky? or ?being a crook? don?t factor into the equation anywhere. No, American society is a natural hierarchy where the most capable are ?rich beyond their wildest dreams?, and the non-rich are chumps that just don?t measure up.

Only they are capable - some of them actually are - and they?re not rich. Clearly, something is broken, preventing these wannabes who ?have what it takes? from reaching materialist heaven. Now here?s where it gets interesting. Since they ?have what it takes?, there must be somebody else to blame. This from the people who accuse the poor of ?blaming everybody but themselves?. The dittoheads do the very same thing. Its ?tax and spend liberals?. It?s ?big government?. For the more crude among them, it?s ?the awesome people?. Only they don?t use that word in public. Instead, they call them ?minorities?.

 

[magomago]

Libertarian

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Did you skip Math too? 😉

By my count, there are five Democrats and five Republicans identified in this thread, including one person who said he is still registered Republican but is switching to Democrat. I counted him as a Democrat. I did this quickly in my head, so I may have counted someone twice or missed someone, but I'd say it's close to 50/50 mix.

So what was your question again?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Did you skip Math too? 😉

By my count, there are five Democrats and five Republicans identified in this thread, including one person who said he is still registered Republican but is switching to Democrat. I counted him as a Democrat. I did this quickly in my head, so I may have counted someone twice or missed someone, but I'd say it's close to 50/50 mix.

So what was your question again?

Did you skip your last appointment with the optometrist?

CkG

 

[zantac]

Life long democrat. However, I do vote green party when it looks as if there is no chance a conservative will win.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Did you skip Math too? 😉

By my count, there are five Democrats and five Republicans identified in this thread, including one person who said he is still registered Republican but is switching to Democrat. I counted him as a Democrat. I did this quickly in my head, so I may have counted someone twice or missed someone, but I'd say it's close to 50/50 mix.

So what was your question again?

Did you skip your last appointment with the optometrist?

CkG

Oops, sorry. You must be looking at the poll; I was looking at the comments.

That does raise a question, though. Why are all of the Democrats willing to come forward and identify themselves while only about a third of the Republicans are? Are they ashamed to admit they're Republicans?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Oops, sorry. You must be looking at the poll; I was looking at the comments.

That does raise a question, though. Why are all of the Democrats willing to come forward and identify themselves while only about a third of the Republicans are? Are they ashamed to admit they're Republicans?

Nice try Bow😛 The question I brought up was why democrats aren't willing to click the right button. They seem to like the independant one better. I wonder how many "independants" would be democrats if they were honest about their registration.

CkG

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Still having trouble with the old punctuation?

Democrat's party? To which Democrat does this party belong?

If you are trying to punctuate a plural possessive, it would be Democrats' Party.

A simple look in any old dictionary.

Why don't you just join the educated universe and call it what it is, for the love of God.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Still having trouble with the old punctuation?

Democrat's party? To which Democrat does this party belong?

If you are trying to punctuate a plural possessive, it would be Democrats' Party.

A simple look in any old dictionary.

Why don't you just join the educated universe and call it what it is, for the love of God.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

IF I am a Democrat, it would be my party, no? Therefore it is the Democrat's party. It's funny that you let this get your panties all bunched up though😛 Whatever though - if a Democrat doesn't want to be affiliated with their party then who am I to say they should.😉 It's their party I guess- they can do what they wish.

CkG

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Still having trouble with the old punctuation?

Democrat's party? To which Democrat does this party belong?

If you are trying to punctuate a plural possessive, it would be Democrats' Party.

A simple look in any old dictionary.

Why don't you just join the educated universe and call it what it is, for the love of God.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

Democratic Party.

IF I am a Democrat, it would be my party, no? Therefore it is the Democrat's party. It's funny that you let this get your panties all bunched up though😛 Whatever though - if a Democrat doesn't want to be affiliated with their party then who am I to say they should.😉 It's their party I guess- they can do what they wish.

CkG

No No No! Have you ever in your life consulted a dictionary or manual of style?


<<<I am a Democrat, it would be my party, no? Therefore it is the Democrat's party.>>

That would be "that Democrat's Party" or even "A Democrat's Party", you get it? .

..Singular, get it?


When speaking of a group (or any more than one) the concept is known as "plural".


...Plural, get it?





Why in the name of God don't you just find out for your self? I'm not here to debate you. I was trying to gently point out some basic errors in the belief that you would be interested in improving your writing skills.




Why you stubbornly argue against well known rules of Grammar and Punctuation is puzzling...just go find out for your self.


As to why it concerns me,


I'm sorry, but is is against my professional ethics to stand by and watch a seemingly intelligent person massacre the English Language.

I'm telling you for the last time...You obviously don't believe me, so would you please find out for your self?

If you insist upon using erroneous punctuation, and improper word usage. don't be surprised if people underestimate your intelligence.

I can no longer waste time trying to teach the unteachable.

You are free (as you have always been) to ignore any and all rules of english's language
How about New York's Yankees?
Although I'm more of a fan of Boston's Red Sox.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Where did all the democrats go? Or is it going the way of "liberal"😉 Has "independent" somehow replaced "democrat" like "progressive" is being written over "liberal"?

And some wonder why people say the democrat's party is falling apart😛 People don't want to be associated with them any more?....I wonder why that is.

CkG

Why do you consistently get off on what only you see as the downfall of liberalism? Its kind of disturbing.

Coming to a conclusion about the country's political climate from an AT poll is just dumb.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Oops, sorry. You must be looking at the poll; I was looking at the comments.

That does raise a question, though. Why are all of the Democrats willing to come forward and identify themselves while only about a third of the Republicans are? Are they ashamed to admit they're Republicans?

Nice try Bow😛 The question I brought up was why democrats aren't willing to click the right button. They seem to like the independant one better. I wonder how many "independants" would be democrats if they were honest about their registration.

CkG

CAD, do you ever say anything without your partisan mixmaster on full spin? Our two questions are not mutually exclusive. They are both valid questions. It is interesting that so few Democrats have answered the poll. It is also interesting that so few Republicans identified themselves in the messages.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
IF I am a Democrat, it would be my party, no? Therefore it is the Democrat's party. It's funny that you let this get your panties all bunched up though😛 Whatever though - if a Democrat doesn't want to be affiliated with their party then who am I to say they should.😉 It's their party I guess- they can do what they wish.

CkG

As long as I'm ragging on you anyway, do you ever admit you are wrong about anything? I'm just wondering since you are obviously and inarguably wrong about this. It would be either the "Democrats' party" or the "Democratic party". You could craft a very narrow case where "Democrat's party" was correct, but your message wasn't it. Feralkid is right.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

😀

Ah, the things that people get riled about😛 You guys do understand that I wouldn't purposely structure my phrasing like that if I knew you guys wouldn't get your panties in a bunch.
feral-Ofcourse it is the democratic party😛 It's just funny to see who whines about it and makes it into a big deal, like it matters or something😛 Is it really that important? 😉

Monsta - No, you fail to see the whole picture. I'm not comming to a conclusion based on this poll😛 This poll is just merely more evidence(however un-scientific) that people are shying away from identifying themselves with the left. Polls have been trending this way and so has the voting and issues. My posting about it isn't "getting off" - it was an observation with a bit of a taunt😉 And as usual when things like this are said - you have the left trying to defend their cohesiveness or trying to say it isn't happening. Well believe me Monsta - I'm not the only one who sees this happening. You'll soon see what I'm talking about.😉 Maybe not tommorow or next week, but if things don't change course we could see a dramatic change in our political parties soon. It's happened before and it's getting increasingly likely to happen again.🙂

Bow1 - This is an anonymous poll. Is there a reason for people not to publically state their leanings? well - I don't know - I stated mine🙂 However there are almost as many "independants" as "Republican" votes and hardly anyone at all has posted that they chose that. I wonder what that means? <shrug> But my question being that of the total votes there are relatively few admitted democrats here compared to other polling done here. Even taking into consideration national statistics - these results are "off", especially since this board leans left of center for the most part.

Bow2 - Yes I have admitted error😉 But as you can see if you read the first section above - it was err(well kind of) for a purpose. I find it humorously interesting to see who takes issue with that wording. When said in public(around the water cooler or wherever) it makes it easy to spot the democrats. You can tell by their reaction - here it is much harder to see, but in this case it was quite obvious, no? Even you - an "independant" (although you may be a registered "No Party" member😉) have decided to take issue with it. why? Does it matter to you? Does it really make that big of difference? 😀

phew - ok. I'm done typing replies to this already😛 Enough of the whining about my usage of democrat's 😛

CkG

 

[Tripleshot]

Card carrying Democrat, and I do contribute to the party with my wallet, not just this forum. I am offended by the conotation that Democrats are socialists. That is pure bullsh!t, and you people know it. Anyone who looks deeper than a Rush Limbaugh radio script and has the ability to think with more than two neurons activated at the same time can see that. 🙂

 

[Bowfinger]

Two quickies:

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
😀
Bow1 - This is an anonymous poll. Is there a reason for people not to publically state their leanings? well - I don't know - I stated mine🙂 However there are almost as many "independants" as "Republican" votes and hardly anyone at all has posted that they chose that. I wonder what that means?

Actually, I count five who say they are independents. This is roughly the same proportion as the number who posted as Republicans. Perhaps I should modify my question to ask why so few Republicans and independents were willing to identify themselves.

Bow2 - Yes I have admitted error But as you can see if you read the first section above - it was err(well kind of) for a purpose. I find it humorously interesting to see who takes issue with that wording. When said in public(around the water cooler or wherever) it makes it easy to spot the democrats. You can tell by their reaction - here it is much harder to see, but in this case it was quite obvious, no? Even you - an "independant" (although you may be a registered "No Party" member) have decided to take issue with it. why? Does it matter to you? Does it really make that big of difference?

One: Huh? Your whole comment re. partisan differences and the use of "Democrats' party" vs. "Democratic Party" seems totally off-the-wall.

Two: I rarely criticize people for spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I made an exception in this case, not because of your faulty punctuation, but because of your denial. I personally don't care which form you use. It doesn't affect me. I just think if someone calls you on it, it is more constructive to say, "Oops, my bad." instead of arguing about it.

Just my $0.02.

 

[Colt45]

I'm not affiliated with any party, but my blood is red.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Not registered with any party. Will vote for the best alternative to Bush.

 

[Genesys]

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Card carrying Democrat, and I do contribute to the party with my wallet, not just this forum. I am offended by the conotation that Democrats are socialists. That is pure bullsh!t, and you people know it. Anyone who looks deeper than a Rush Limbaugh radio script and has the ability to think with more than two neurons activated at the same time can see that. 🙂

well, if theyre not socialist, then what are they? from what i can see Democrats want to make the populace dependant on the government in the form of more handouts and entitlements. and when the populace is dependant on the government, thats socialism.

since stated above that im Independant, I would just like to add that I would rather have a facist leader than a socialist leader.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: Genesys
since stated above that im Independant, I would just like to add that I would rather have a facist leader than a socialist leader.

Then you are a fool.


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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): Pulling the wool over America's eyes since 1980.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Card carrying Democrat, and I do contribute to the party with my wallet, not just this forum. I am offended by the conotation that Democrats are socialists. That is pure bullsh!t, and you people know it. Anyone who looks deeper than a Rush Limbaugh radio script and has the ability to think with more than two neurons activated at the same time can see that. 🙂

well, if theyre not socialist, then what are they? from what i can see Democrats want to make the populace dependant on the government in the form of more handouts and entitlements. and when the populace is dependant on the government, thats socialism.

since stated above that im Independant, I would just like to add that I would rather have a facist leader than a socialist leader.

I know you're extremly ignorant and can't even define the terms of the debate but being the good hearted liberal I am I will try and educate.

First of all liberals are democratic capitalists, which is, they believe that private capitalist individuals should own and control the means of production, as long as they operate within the democratic law. Socialists think everyone should own and control the means of production. This means workers would vote on thier leadership like say at southwest air, everyone owns each firm and all firms are operated not-for-profit.

If this is not the case show me one democrat advocating abolition of land ownership? What was the name of our central planning agency for our "command economy"?

If anything Liberals have broadend capitaism not restriced it. Our FHA (FDR PROGRAM) has broadened land ownership. How many personal fortunes have been made by "liberal" lending policies and access to federally backed/insured capital since 1933? Where are your facts to support liberals are really communists/socialists?


And that brings me to Communism. Communists also believe in abolition of land and business ownership. However they are different from socialists but similar to fascists in that they are not democratic and have a "gulag" like police state. So where is America's gulag? How many political prisoners did FDR, Truman, LBJ, Cater or Bill Clinton have?

If anything the republicans are closer to communists/fascists in they beleive in a strong police state (McCarthy/Bush/Drug war/Patriot act/IRS seizures). Show they hate democracy by restricting former "felon" votes and love to restrict free speech and assembly rights.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Zebo

And that brings me to Communism. Communists also believe in abolition of land and business ownership. However they are different from socialists but similar to fascists in that they are not democratic and have a "gulag" like police state. So where is America's gulag? How many political prisoners did FDR, Truman, LBJ, Cater or Bill Clinton have?

If anything the republicans are closer to communists/fascists in they beleive in a strong police state (McCarthy/Bush/Drug war/Patriot act/IRS seizures). Show they hate democracy by restricting former "felon" votes and love to restrict free speech and assembly rights.

Communism and a police state arent related. some of the stricter socialist states end up that way though.
real communism has never been reached though so you can't really say that either, as in a pure communist state there would be no need for government or currency

communism is an economic system for christsakes.. its like saying all capitalistic countries are democratic.
capitalism != democracy
communism != totalitarianism