What new low profile video cards are on the way?

[cbn]

We finally got one!

And it even comes in choice of 2GB or 4GB!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11133/msi-adds-lowprofile-amd-radeon-rx-460-graphics-cards-to-lineup

The 2GB version of this card is now at Newegg for $84.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137089

That is a good price.

As a point of reference, the (more powerful) MSI GTX 1050 2GB low profile is on sale for $109.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137079

And the MSI GTX 1050 Ti 4GB low profile is on sale for $144.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137081

P.S. Will be interesting to see how the MSI low profile RX460 4GB compares in price to the $109.99 AR free shipping MSI low profile GTX 1050 2GB.

 

[cbn]

The 2GB version of this card is now at Newegg for $84.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137089

That is a good price.

As a point of reference, the (more powerful) MSI GTX 1050 2GB low profile is on sale for $109.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137079

And the MSI GTX 1050 Ti 4GB low profile is on sale for $144.99 AR free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137081

P.S. Will be interesting to see how the MSI low profile RX460 4GB compares in price to the $109.99 AR free shipping MSI low profile GTX 1050 2GB.

Price has dropped to $78.99 AR free shipping.

.....that increases my belief the 4GB version will also have a good price.

 

[cbn]

The GigabyteGTX 1050 Ti and Zotac GTX 1050 Ti have both arrived at Newgg:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125952&ignorebbr=1 ($149.99 with free shipping)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500417&ignorebbr=1 ($149.99 with $3.99 shipping)

 

[Blue_Max]

If anyone's interested, I just bought and tried out the LP RX 460 card.... it's unpleasantly loud.

Performance is great for a LP card, but it's going back to the store - this level of noise is unacceptable. I'll either spend more on the quieter 1050 LP or give up on the SFF entirely.

 

[cbn]

RX 550 from XFX in 2GB and 4GB versions (dual slot card):

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-500-series/rx-550-2gb-lp-rx-550p2lfg5

http://www.xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-500-series/rx-550-4gb-lp-rx-550p4lfg5

 

[cbn]

If anyone's interested, I just bought and tried out the LP RX 460 card.... it's unpleasantly loud.

Performance is great for a LP card, but it's going back to the store - this level of noise is unacceptable. I'll either spend more on the quieter 1050 LP or give up on the SFF entirely.

What SFF computer did you put it in?

Was it this Dell chassis you mentioned in the other thread---> https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...ff-slim-desktops.2404864/page-3#post-38397207 (I have the Ivy Bridge version of computer on the way (which has the same chassis), but I suspect a dual slot cooler height card would run hot (in part) due to the GPU's fans being very close to the PSU)

I would, however, consider a "dual slot" card like the low profile XFX RX550 because its cooler doesn't take up the two slots (see second image in previous post).

 

[Blue_Max]

I used it in a Lenovo SFF that's just a little bigger...

...but I moved to an InWin BK623 to gain full height and much quieter options, all in a case smaller and lighter to lug around.

Will be trying out the RX 550 LP as soon as I can though.

 

[cbn]

MSI GT 1030 single slot low profile on the way (according to Videocardz):

https://videocardz.net/msi-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

This card is a drop in (with the exception of display port replacing DVI) for anyone that is using the 38W PNY GT 730 GDDR5 (or the like).

Very noteworthy is that this GT 1030 (at 7 Gbps GDDR5) will have more than twice the effective memory bandwidth as the Kepler based GT 730 and its 5 Gbps GDDR5. This not due to a wider memory bus (it still has the 64 bit bus), but rather due to Pascal having the benefit of 2 generations of Delta Color Compression and a larger L2 cache since Kepler was released:

Pascal vs. Maxwell 2:

Maxwell 2 vs. Kepler:

 

[cbn]

Will be trying out the RX 550 LP as soon as I can though.

I might get one also.

A cheap low profile card that can power three monitors at the same time is a good thing in my book.

 

[cbn]

MSI GT 1030 for $69.99 free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137139&cm_re=MSI_GeForce_GT_1030_DirectX_12_GT_1030_2G_LP_OC_2GB_64-Bit_GDDR5_PCI_Express_3.0_x16_(uses_x4)_HDCP_Ready_Low_Profile_Video_Card-_-14-137-139-_-Product

 

[cbn]

Gigabyte GT 1030, $69.99 free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...14125972&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-125-972-_-Product

 

[cbn]

Zotac GT 1030, $69.99 free shipping:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...14500424&cm_re=GT_1030-_-14-500-424-_-Product

 

[cbn]

MSI GT 1030 single slot low profile on the way (according to Videocardz):

https://videocardz.net/msi-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-lp/

This card is a drop in (with the exception of display port replacing DVI) for anyone that is using the 38W PNY GT 730 GDDR5 (or the like).

Very noteworthy is that this GT 1030 (at 7 Gbps GDDR5) will have more than twice the effective memory bandwidth as the Kepler based GT 730 and its 5 Gbps GDDR5. This not due to a wider memory bus (it still has the 64 bit bus), but rather due to Pascal having the benefit of 2 generations of Delta Color Compression and a larger L2 cache since Kepler was released:

Pascal vs. Maxwell 2:

Maxwell 2 vs. Kepler:

In contrast to what is mentioned above, GT 1030 ended up shipping with GDDR5 @ 6 Gbps rather than 7 Gbps. However it still benchmarked more than twice as fast as GT 730 GDDR5 2GB in the video below:

 

[cbn]

GT 1030 vs. GT 740 2GB:

^^^^ GT 1030 is 22% to 44% faster than GT 740 2GB

GT 1030 vs, GTX 750 2GB:

^^^^ GTX 750 2GB is 5% to 9% faster than GT 1030.

 

[edcoolio]

So, which of these do you believe is the

I used it in a Lenovo SFF that's just a little bigger...



...but I moved to an InWin BK623 to gain full height and much quieter options, all in a case smaller and lighter to lug around.

Will be trying out the RX 550 LP as soon as I can though.

I would be interested in what you think - noise vs performance vs power draw.

 

[edcoolio]

GT 1030 vs. GT 740 2GB:

^^^^ GT 1030 is 22% to 44% faster than GT 740 2GB

GT 1030 vs, GTX 750 2GB:

^^^^ GTX 750 2GB is 5% to 9% faster than GT 1030.

So, of everything listed so far, which one would you put as ideal, or at least as most bang for the buck?

 

[cbn]

So, of everything listed so far, which one would you put as ideal, or at least as most bang for the buck?

Best performance per dollar is MSI RX 460 at $78.99 after rebate:

With second place going to MSI GTX 1050 at $98.99 after rebate:

(RX 460 performance per watt is lower than GTX 1050 though)

P.S. At $70 (without rebate) the GT 1030 has about the same performance per dollar as the $140 after rebate GTX 1050 Ti.

 

[cbn]

Best performance per dollar (factoring in rebates): RX 460 > GTX 1050 > GT 1030 = GTX 1050 Ti.

Best performance per watt: GT 1030 > GTX 1050 Ti > GTX 1050 > RX 460

NOTE: Low profile RX 550 is not available at this time.

 

[cbn]

If anyone's interested, I just bought and tried out the LP RX 460 card.... it's unpleasantly loud.

Performance is great for a LP card, but it's going back to the store - this level of noise is unacceptable. I'll either spend more on the quieter 1050 LP or give up on the SFF entirely.

Have you tried lowering the power limit and Core clock via MSI Afterburner? (If you click on the Window button on MSI Afterburner labeled start-up it will hold these setting when you boot up again).

Would be interesting to see how much performance is retained at 65W, 60W, 55W, etc (I think it might do surprisingly well).

 

[Blue_Max]

Have you tried lowering the power limit and Core clock via MSI Afterburner? (If you click on the Window button on MSI Afterburner labeled start-up it will hold these setting when you boot up again).

Would be interesting to see how much performance is retained at 65W, 60W, 55W, etc (I think it might do surprisingly well).

.....the thought never occurred to me at the time. Kicking myself now... but only a little. My speedy GTX 750TI is pretty close in speed and is a better match for the rig. 300W of power gives me the headroom to use an i5 over an i3. <3

 

[cbn]

.....the thought never occurred to me at the time. Kicking myself now... but only a little. My speedy GTX 750TI is pretty close in speed and is a better match for the rig. 300W of power gives me the headroom to use an i5 over an i3. <3

Based on my research (linked below) you should be able to use a Seasonic TFX 300W PSU in your Lenovo SFF:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...th-radeon-rx-550.2504348/page-6#post-38920173

With that mentioned, did you actually move the motherboard from the Lenovo to the Inwin BK 623? If I am not mistaken the Lenovo do use standard uATX motherboards.

 

[Blue_Max]

Based on my research (linked below) you should be able to use a Seasonic TFX 300W PSU in your Lenovo SFF:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...th-radeon-rx-550.2504348/page-6#post-38920173

With that mentioned, did you actually move the motherboard from the Lenovo to the Inwin BK 623? If I am not mistaken the Lenovo do use standard uATX motherboards.

Naw... found a cheap 1155 motherboard to use with my pile of 1155 processors. The power supply calculator says the Lenovo's 240W supply would handle the i3 3220 and a GTX 1050 but without much headroom. The R7-240 I have or a GT 1030 would feel better. The price of a special power supply is not worth the cost!
Grabbed the 1155 mobo a while ago, then the BK623 + extended warranty and a used full-height GTX 750TI for ~$100US. Makes a tidy portable gamer that fits nicely in a little bag. The BK623's 300W allows the i5-3470 and a full 1050TI or slightly more with ease. I pushed the barrier a little and tried the i3 + GTX 960 undervolted just a little.... but that's too close to the line for my liking.

I miss the Lenovo SFF's better build quality... may sell off the BK623 as a novelty gamer not much bigger than an xbox and go i3+ low-profile 1030 or even 1050... or something.

Sure is nice to have these low-profile options! <3

 

[cbn]

Here are some power numbers I got (using a Kill-A-watt) while testing my Dell Optiplex 9010 SFF (Core i5 3470 with 3.5" HDD):

Idle: 28W
Booting up: most of the time it was in the 50W range, but it did spike to 80W for a moment.
Prime 95 (In place large FFTs, maximum heat, power consumption, some RAM tested): fluctuated from 93W to 105W.

These numbers are, of course, measured at the wall (assuming 90% power supply efficiency that 105W peak for Prime 95 would be 95W at the PSU and if power supply efficiency was 85% (at 105W) then the amount system power at the PSU would be 90W).

So for this little SFF machine I actually do feel it would work out with a 75W GPU. This especially if the 3.5" HDD were replaced with a 2.5" SSD.

 

[cbn]

Some AMD Workstation cards on the way:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11509/amd-announces-radeon-pro-wx-3100-wx-2100

I must say I really like the cooler on these cards:

 

[Blue_Max]

Just reporting in that I snagged one of the MSI 1050TI low-profile cards.

Unlike the same company's RX 460 card, this one is no hair dryer for noise. I gamed with it and it's still near-silent! Gawd I freakin' love this card!

Super speedy AND quiet? I'm tickled pink!