I got a single shot 410 shotgun when I was 9 or 10. Guns were always in the house, but my parents made sure I knew how to handle them safely. Children that end up shooting each other with their parent's guns are the ones that were not taught how to handle guns safely.
I admit that I would "play" with my parents guns from time to time when they weren't home, but since I knew how to handle them, nothing bad ever happened. Any gun that isn't in a safe is going to be found by any children that are in the house, and most of those children will eventually play with it. Even if your children are safe with guns, everything still needs to be in a safe because you don't want the children of anti-gun parent's coming over to your house and shooting your kid with your gun because the only experience they have with a gun is what they see on TV.
I think it's important for the average person to own guns. When only criminals and governments have guns, things tend to get nasty for the average person.
I admit that I would "play" with my parents guns from time to time when they weren't home, but since I knew how to handle them, nothing bad ever happened. Any gun that isn't in a safe is going to be found by any children that are in the house, and most of those children will eventually play with it. Even if your children are safe with guns, everything still needs to be in a safe because you don't want the children of anti-gun parent's coming over to your house and shooting your kid with your gun because the only experience they have with a gun is what they see on TV.
I think it's important for the average person to own guns. When only criminals and governments have guns, things tend to get nasty for the average person.
K1052
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Both parents were somewhat anti-gun. Neither owned one.
I started collecting firearmsa number of years ago and after some gun saftey lessons and some trips to the range they are fine with it. Wierd that I taught my parents about
something like this.
I gave my mom one of my pistols since she lives out in the country and would likely have to wait a good long time for any kind of police assistance.
I started collecting firearmsa number of years ago and after some gun saftey lessons and some trips to the range they are fine with it. Wierd that I taught my parents about
something like this.
I gave my mom one of my pistols since she lives out in the country and would likely have to wait a good long time for any kind of police assistance.
IronWing
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Iraq! Because Iraq has been blessed with one of the most heavily armed civilian populations on earth, the people were able to maintain their freedoms in the face of a would be tyrant. The Iraqi people have also been able to prevent violent crime and maintain civil peace.
Gun control memorial (it's a bit extreme, but it makes a point.)
Washington DC doesn't seem all that safe even though they have a gun ban.
Would you have wanted to be in New Orleans after Katrina without a gun?
I know that I'll probably never have to use one of my guns in a defensive situation, but I would rather have a gun and not need it than need it and not have it.
I wonder if in any of those countries, assuming guns were not illegal, the people would have actually done anything? Are guns illegal in Detroit? Seems like guns are only a tool for the willing populace, and a populace with the will to defend itself will find a way. I'm all for letting people own guns if they want to, but the idea that owning a gun is a necessity because somehow people are going to "stand up" to the army of a tyranical government is laughable at best. This isn't 1776, the people don't stand a chance anymore.
between 4 and 5.
my dad hunted, fished, etc..he let me shoot his guns when i was little and stuff. got a shotgun for christmas when i was like, 13
my dad hunted, fished, etc..he let me shoot his guns when i was little and stuff. got a shotgun for christmas when i was like, 13
skyking
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Dad had a couple of guns in the house when I was young, but gave them to friends. He came back from WWII a different man. He went as a 17 year old boy.
He tried to hunt and have guns around, but could never forget killing people, and seeing his friends riddled with bullets.
He could not shoot a deer anymore, what had it done to him?
He tried to hunt and have guns around, but could never forget killing people, and seeing his friends riddled with bullets.
He could not shoot a deer anymore, what had it done to him?
n yusef
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My parents, being the hippies that they are, don't have guns, and wouldn't ever think about getting me one. They wouldn't even let me get toy guns until I was a teenager, and they still didn't like it if I had a water gun or went paintballing with my friends.
If I bought a gun they wouldn't disown me, or even really care that much, but they wouldn't be happy either. Needless to say, I've learned zero about guns from my parents, and don't really know much now.
I'm not opposed to guns myself, but I don't see a reason for me to own one. Maybe if I lived way out in the country I might buy a shotgun, but besides that, I don't see any guns in my life.
If I bought a gun they wouldn't disown me, or even really care that much, but they wouldn't be happy either. Needless to say, I've learned zero about guns from my parents, and don't really know much now.
I'm not opposed to guns myself, but I don't see a reason for me to own one. Maybe if I lived way out in the country I might buy a shotgun, but besides that, I don't see any guns in my life.
My mom was pretty anti-gun and my father was ambivalent about it. He taught me to shoot when I was ~13 but we never kept any guns in the house or anything like that.
I was taught to be respectful of them. My family doesn't hunt but owns a few firearms (P-38 and K-98 brought back by my grandfather). No extreme one way or the other, except for firearm safety.
My father fought in Korea, so he was not afraid of guns at all. He never really gave it a lot of thought.
My mom is an ultra liberal who thinks all guns should be banned except for police and the army.
the very first time i picked up a gun was in my mid 30's and i was so nervous... i actually started crying and it took me three attempts to actually pull the trigger. I kept putting it down and picking it up. But after the first few rounds, i loved it. I got my CCW permit and the gun range was a regular hobby for me.
Alas, i had to leave it all behind when I moved to NJ though.
My mom is an ultra liberal who thinks all guns should be banned except for police and the army.
the very first time i picked up a gun was in my mid 30's and i was so nervous... i actually started crying and it took me three attempts to actually pull the trigger. I kept putting it down and picking it up. But after the first few rounds, i loved it. I got my CCW permit and the gun range was a regular hobby for me.
Alas, i had to leave it all behind when I moved to NJ though.
Amused
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Really? Tell that to the former USSR, who got their asses kicked by the Taliban who used little more than small privately owned arms.
The Vietnam War demonstrated that a modern nuclear military power can be resisted by guerrilla fighters bearing only small arms.
In 1992, the United States declined to intervene in the conflict in Bosnia-Herzegovina after an aide to General Colin Powell, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, advised the Senate Armed Services Committee that the widespread ownership of arms in the former Yugoslav republic made even limited intervention "perilous and deadly."
Switzerland managed to stay safe through two world wars. It was not their neutrality that kept Hitler out, but the fact that the citizen militia of Switzerland has just about every home armed. No one has dared invade Switzerland since this militia was formed.
Even now, the Russians are having their asses handed to them by the Chechnyans... fighters who live at home, wear jeans and use castoff weapons.
That you think an armed populace is not a deterrent to invasion or oppression is what is laughable here.
HamburgerBoy
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I didn't get a message about guns.
but I didn't actually see a gun until I was 17 and at college.
but I didn't actually see a gun until I was 17 and at college.
Something of a deterrent? Maybe. A big one, probably not. Our army grows larger and more powerful every day (not to mention technologically advanced), with the amount of spending and research that goes into it. Eventually it will be just be too powerful for a few citizens armed with AK47s to take on.
Nebor
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No, it won't. The idea of guns in every home is that you'd have to kill absolutely everyone with air strikes before you move in. A large advanced military has no advantage fighting an armed citizenry. The only option is to kill everyone with WMD. Otherwise you go in with ground troops, fight on their turf, where they have all the advantages, and you get your ass handed to you, just like Amused said.
You're assuming the process of waging war will remain exactly as it is now and has been for hundreds of years. I don't think it will.
middlehead
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