what kind of personal protection device

[Maximus96]

my wife leaves the house at 6am in the morning when its still dark outside. my neighborhood is usually safe, but her car was stolen in front of our house last week and she is a bit worried. what should we get for personal safety, like pepper spray and such. shes never used one before and neither have i.

 

[EyeMWing]

CCL and .45ACP. Maybe 9mm for a chick.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

KAHR PMP9 would fit in just about any purse

 

[Maximus96]

thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

 

[Encryptic]

How about a box of Trojans?

Oh....wait.....


😛

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
CCL and .45ACP. Maybe 9mm for a chick.

Yeah, that should be enough to protect her from getting her ass tag-teamed on a rowboat... I heard that's happened before.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

Loud noise maker? 😕

Get some 10% OC Spray. OC = Oleoresin Capsicum (sp?). The brand isn't *too* important.

 

[Hammer]

hand grenade... works every time.

 

[K1052]

Firearm.

Preferably a Sig P239.

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

You mean to tell me the only way to fend off a would be robber is to shoot them?

 

[Schadenfreude]

I'd go with the grenade option.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

Some (many) people don't have the capacity to kill, so something like OC is probably their best option.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: K1052
Firearm.

Preferably a Sig P239.

http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/

My current desire in subcompacts. Absolutely gorgeous.

I'd settle for a Kahr PM9 though.

Viper GTS

 

[Platypus]

condoms

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

You mean to tell me the only way to fend off a would be robber is to shoot them?

No, but they'll think twice the second they see the damn thing pointed at their forehead. The main objective of carrying a firearm for protection is to defuse the situation - not end it outright. Only if that doesn't work and they keep coming do you pull the trigger

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

You mean to tell me the only way to fend off a would be robber is to shoot them?

No, but they'll think twice the second they see the damn thing pointed at their forehead. The main objective of carrying a firearm for protection is to defuse the situation - not end it outright. Only if that doesn't work and they keep coming do you pull the trigger

That just sounds like a recipe for disaster in the hands of a scared, nervous person.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: K1052
Firearm.

Preferably a Sig P239.

http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/

My current desire in subcompacts. Absolutely gorgeous.

I'd settle for a Kahr PM9 though.

Viper GTS

I have never personally liked the sub-compact guns all that much.

A purse should have room for a P239 (what can I say, I love SIGs). Hell, most purses I see could have a G18C w/ 30 round mag stuffed in them.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: pulse8

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

If you're serious about defending yourself, aiming to kill is the only realistic option.

Carry a gun if you're serious about actively defending yourself.

If you don't want to carry a gun, buy some good running shoes & be careful.

Viper GTS

You mean to tell me the only way to fend off a would be robber is to shoot them?

No, but they'll think twice the second they see the damn thing pointed at their forehead. The main objective of carrying a firearm for protection is to defuse the situation - not end it outright. Only if that doesn't work and they keep coming do you pull the trigger

That just sounds like a recipe for disaster in the hands of a scared, nervous person.

Situational training + lots & lots of practice, it's a conditioned response - Not something you wait to see what will happen.

How many people who carry pepper spray have ever tested it? How many even know how to work it?

If you got 100 women together who had pepper spray & didn't let them modify where/how they carried the spray I doubt any of them could fend off someone starting from 100 feet away. Even when they knew it was coming.

On top of that, how many people are carrying pepper spray that is 5 years old?

Pepper spray that's treated like a weapon MIGHT be somewhat useful, but nobody uses it like that. They throw it on their keyring where it does no good whatsoever, or toss it in their purse where it ends up under their checkbook & tampons.

While I would definitely say the gun has an inherent advantage against an attacker (lethality + intimidation factor), the real advantage comes in the training & readiness that usually comes with carrying.

I'm no advocate of tossing a gun in your purse & considering yourself safe, that's the last thing society needs.

Viper GTS

 

[OverVolt]

Or, if you prefer for be more discrete Text

 

[shilala]

Originally posted by: zaku
thanks but we don't need to shoot or kill anybody. was thinking more along the lines of a pepper spray or some loud noise maker.

Where's the sport in that? Victim or victimize, it's up to you. You'll wish she was toting that 9mm when...

 

[Schadenfreude]

Why don't you just hire a stunt double - that way she can jump in any potentially dangerous situations + she might be able to fill in if she's "not in the mood" . . ...

 

[Gibson486]

clay aiken

 

[Maximus96]

no guns. what is OC?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: zaku
no guns. what is OC?

Pepper spray.