What kind of exercise machine to get?

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Chaotic42

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Hey all.

I'm once again trying to lose weight. I do it, feel better, then slip off the tracks and gain weight again. I was doing well this time, but my elliptical machine broke.

So I'm trying to figure out what the best course of action is. I could get it repaired, which would likely be hundreds of dollars (I can't repair it myself, I tried) or I could get a new machine which definitely be hundreds of dollars. I was thinking of a stair stepper.

Yes, a gym would be better, but I wouldn't do it. I like to work out at 9pm or so, and I like to watch TV while I do it. I'd hit the gym three or four times and then I'd stop. Same for running around the neighborhood.

I was also considering a kayak, but that is a lot of work to maintain, and if I don't like it, I'd be out quite a bit of money.

Unfortunately I have a horrible metabolism, make poor dietary choices, and tend to just forget to workout (amongst other things).

So, what would you do?
 

brikis98

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Your problem is not in finding a machine, but in finding motivation. Try this: set some goals. These should be concrete, measurable items with a due date you can work towards. They should challenge you and in that way, provide motivation by themselves. For example, "I want to weigh X pounds by date Y" or "I want to squat X pounds by date Y" or "I want to be able to run X miles by date Y". Figure out your goals, post them here, and we'll tell you how to get there. Moreover, by posting here (perhaps in the form of a workout journal) and telling your friends/family about your goals, you'll have someone to answer to if you start slacking.
 

Kipper

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You don't HAVE to lift weights, although that is the general trend on this forum. Physical activity is a part of losing weight, but you have to enjoy it. Otherwise it's pointless. Reading your post, it's rather obvious that kayak, gym, stair-stepper, and elliptical didn't work for you. IF these were interesting to you, the financial cost wouldn't be as much of a reason to avoid it.

You need to find something you enjoy. Dance. Join a softball league. Take up martial arts. Cycle. Run. Garden. Climb rocks. Hike. Have lots and lots of sex. When exercise becomes more than just something you "have to do" to a hobby/infatuation/whatever, then you're on the path to success. A friend of mine took up salsa dancing and dropped 40 pounds. He also met his current girlfriend there...and he didn't even set foot in a gym.
 

crt1530

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Send me $500 via PayPal and I'll make you a certificate saying that you had every intention of losing some weight.
 

katank

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One step at a time. First, fix your diet. Even the best training can't outdo a bad diet. Make sure you eat whole foods, hydrate sufficiently, and get lots of sleep (8+ hours preferred).

If you keep this up for a month or two, you should already be better off physically. Then, find some physical activity you enjoy and stick to it.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Hey all.

I'm once again trying to lose weight. I do it, feel better, then slip off the tracks and gain weight again. I was doing well this time, but my elliptical machine broke.

So I'm trying to figure out what the best course of action is. I could get it repaired, which would likely be hundreds of dollars (I can't repair it myself, I tried) or I could get a new machine which definitely be hundreds of dollars. I was thinking of a stair stepper.

Yes, a gym would be better, but I wouldn't do it. I like to work out at 9pm or so, and I like to watch TV while I do it. I'd hit the gym three or four times and then I'd stop. Same for running around the neighborhood.

I was also considering a kayak, but that is a lot of work to maintain, and if I don't like it, I'd be out quite a bit of money.

Unfortunately I have a horrible metabolism, make poor dietary choices, and tend to just forget to workout (amongst other things).

So, what would you do?

The thing that I've found helps the most in being consistent is having a clear, specific, detailed plan. So far, you've said the following:

"I'm once again trying to lose weight"

"trying to figure out what the best course of action is"

"I have a horrible metabolism"

"make poor dietary choices"

"tend to just forget to workout"

So, the problem is that you have a vague, fuzzy notion of what you want. The trick is simple: clearly define what your goals are. Exercise is more of a mind game than anything...anyone can stand on an elliptical for 30 minutes a day, but not everyone does that every day, day after day. It's really easy to quit, especially if you don't really know what you're working towards. You need a clear goal. So here's a few questions to start you off with:

1. What do you weigh now?

2. What would you like your weight to be?

3. How much weight do you need to lose? (Formula: Current Weight - Desired Weight = How much weight to lose)

So now you know exactly what your goal is. Let's say it's 30 pounds. The healthy way to lose weight is to do no more than 2 pounds a week, so if we calculate that out, 30 pounds divided by 2 pounds a week equals 15 weeks, or about 4 months. Great, now you have the basics of a plan - you need to spend 4 months paying attention to losing fat to achieve your target weight. That may seem like a long time, but just to put it in perspective, your choices are: (1), you can spend those 4 months getting fatter, (2) staying at the same weight, or (3) losing weight to meet your goal.

One important thing to realize is that diet counts for 80% of your bodyfat, whereas exercise only accounts for 20%. So if you really want to lose weight, you simply need to get serious about your diet. And by diet I don't mean a short-term diet, I simply mean a healthy meal plan. Here's a copy of my old menu to get you started:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6001510/14-Day-Menu

I have literally lost weight by doing nothing more than eating healthy. Having small meals throughout the day changes your metabolism into a fat-burning machine. Eating healthy foods burns off the fat automatically. This was a big discovery for me - I always thought you had to do a ton of exercise to get skinny, but really it's all about what you eat. As the saying goes, you are what you eat. Literally.

So anyway, once you've achieved your goal (target weight), you need to keep yourself at that weight. The easiest solution is simply to keep up a good menu. I quit exercising for over a year and maintained my target weight simply by eating healthy food. Now, I'm not advocating not exercising, but it just goes to show that food is the default controller of your weight. If you want to burn off the fat, just change your diet and it will happen like magic!

As for myself, when I was working on losing weight, I changed my diet and I exercised for 15 minutes a day. That's it. Worked wonders. I highly recommend doing your 15 minutes in the MORNING, not at night, because it's easy to get distracted and exhausted by the time the evening rolls around, and those are strong deterrants to actually doing your exercise for the day. So I recommend waking up 15 minutes earlier and just doing it ASAP, then making your healthy meals for the day. Pretty simple. I don't even think about it now, I just do it on autopilot haha.

So to review:

1. Food = 80% of fat, Exercise = 20% (you can lose fat simply by eating right)
2. Figured out how much weight you want to lose, then make a simple plan (X number of months, what you're going to eat, and which exercise you'll do & when)
3. Change your diet and throw in a bit of exercise, and follow a simple plan to achieve that goal
4. Once you've achieved your goal, make the diet & exercise stuff a habit so that you keep your desired weight.

Or, you can get really excited about a piece of exercise equipment, spend a lot of money on it, use it for 2 weeks, then have it sit there and collect dust. Everyone I know has a Bowflex or Exercise Bike sitting in their house, acting as a clothes hanger :D

HTH, sorry to be so long-winded ;)
 

spamsk8r

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Diet is absolutely key. But to respond directly to the question posed, I would look into a Concept 2 rower. They're by far the best exercise "machine" you can buy. You can probably find a used one for a few hundred dollars. Brand new ones cost $900 I believe, but a used one would work fine, and since they're fairly simple machines even if something breaks it can be fixed by the end user (usually quite cheaply). I wouldn't consider any other piece of equipment for "cardio"-type exercise.
 

gar655

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Ditto on the Concept 2. Best single, total body exercise available. Look for a used Model C (as old as I would go).

 

PricklyPete

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I would get an old fashioned rowing machine. Much more likely to hold up over a elliptical or treadmill and is still excellent exercise. Some of the more knowledgeable people on this forum may have some newer information on the benefits of rowing machines...but I used to use the hell out of them when my old gym had one and they seemed to do wonders for my body.

A side note...if losing weight is your goal...your wasting a lot of effort on exercise without matching it with better diet choices.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: spamsk8r
Diet is absolutely key. But to respond directly to the question posed, I would look into a Concept 2 rower. They're by far the best exercise "machine" you can buy. You can probably find a used one for a few hundred dollars. Brand new ones cost $900 I believe, but a used one would work fine, and since they're fairly simple machines even if something breaks it can be fixed by the end user (usually quite cheaply). I wouldn't consider any other piece of equipment for "cardio"-type exercise.

Concept 2's are the bomb. Someday when I have a house (i.e. room to put one), I definitely want to pick one up! :D
 

Chaotic42

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Wow, you guys have made some very interesting points and given me quite a bit to think about.

I appreciate it.

The sleep thing will be a biggie. I have a sneaking suspicion that I have sleep apnea. For as long as I can remember, only about once a month will I feel more rested after I wake up than I did before I went to bed.
 
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