What kind of disability causes you to have problems with deadlines?

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Nik

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I have a visual disability that would prevent me.

I just can't see myself doing any work!
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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It is probably mental, but could be physical. People with cancer need more time to do class work because of the fatigue and sickness it causes. Whether he can do the work in his chosen field because of his condition depends on the job but doesn't matter as far as schools are concerned. I have been around a lot of disabled people so I know the laws well. The requirements for educators and disabled students is the school has to make accommodations that would give the disabled person the same chance to succeed as a non disabled student.

If a person takes longer to learn something or cannot learn it as quickly because of a documented reason then a school has to accommodate that. His disability is that it takes him more time to complete assignments. I would ask what is considered more time and follow that guideline. Try to avoid arbitrary extensions, like 1 week just pulling the figure out of the air. Keep it documented too on exactly what allowances you are making.
 

Phoenix86

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IMHO even if it's a mental issue it's not an excuse to turn in work late. By getting a degree you're indicating you can perform the work in that field at the average level of students the university outputs. To allow the student to work slowly yet receive the same degree it is misleading to any business the student may be hired by.
Even businesses have to deal with "reasonable accommodations" for disabilities.

Are you really taking shots at someone with a disability who's actually trying to excel? I mean, we have no idea what the disability is, but would you rather have them live off of society.
 

Modelworks

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But if the company hires that person because they got the same GPA as someone who could do the same job better/faster, then tries to fire the disabled person, they won't be allowed to fire the disabled one to hire the better one. They rely on results in college to do some of this "weeding out," as it were, so they can hire someone who can do the job.

Employers do not rely on schools to determine who gets fired. They rely on the employees cost vs performance. Do you know how hard it is for someone who is disabled in a wheel chair to get a job even with perfect grades and tons of letters of recommendation ? Employers don't want to have to accommodate them. They fear having to spend money on handicap doors, ramps, or bathrooms. Plenty of disabled people are fired for doing a poor job. As long as the employer is doing what would make the employee equal to other employees then the disabled person can be fired like anyone else.
 

bignateyk

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Wow, what a bunch of bullshit.

Also, the ADA is a bunch of horseshit as well. If I have two candidates side by side with identical resumes, and one has a disability that will keep him from performing as well as the other in any fashion, I am going to hire the one without the disability.
 

tcsenter

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Are you really taking shots at someone with a disability who's actually trying to excel? I mean, we have no idea what the disability is, but would you rather have them live off of society.
No, they would be complaining about that, too. What they really want is for all the "defective" people to just die, or at least go live under a bridge somewhere people won't have to look at them.
 

Phoenix86

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ADA isn't bullshit, it's a good act, but some of the things that get classified as a disability certainly are.
 

ivan2

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There used to be a blind guy in my dorm building who uses a guide dog to get to class. Sometimes the dog can go on strike and not want to work, and he could miss class. If that happen I suppose he should get his deadline extended.
 

ahenkel

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I say we move all the disabled people to Utah*. They can rename it Gimplandia.




*Note: I consider Mormonism a mental disability so its ok they can stay.
 

rudder

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A student in one of my labs has a letter from the university discussing the accommodations we need to make for his disability. The only accommodation required is that we be lenient with project deadlines (aka, he can turn stuff in late for no penalty).

What kind of disability would cause this kind of issue? I'm just curious and don't want to ask the student.

A disability is broadly defined as anything that effects a major life activity.... i.e., sleeping. Sleep apnea is a disability for instance as it effects a major life activity. You must make reasonable accommodations for that person. The ADA law was recently revised and disabilities are now more generalized.

Even if this person had a mental condition, was cured by medication, but no longer takes the medication, that can be protected.

in this case it sounds like some lazy ass taking advantage of the system.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Maybe he won't. But it's his right to try.

I don't understand people who have the logic that mental illness are different than physical illness.

I know of a young woman who was attending medical school and just released from the psych ward for the sixth time. When she is properly medicated she is highly functional. Occasionally she needs time for her meds to re-adjust. For her to continue her education IMO is very admirable.

Sucks she ganked a seat from a candidate that could have been a much better doctor.

If she can't make it through what's a set routine daily, how is she going to survive in real-life medicine?
 

zokudu

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I can get on board with disabilities to an extent but from the was your describing the schlub he just sounds like he is milking his "disability". Learning disability? Awesome extra time on tests but still required to get work in on time.

You have to work around your disability. I had a girlfriend who had a learning disability and she was one of the hardest working individuals in my school. Thats motivation but this guy just seems to be looking for a free pass.
 

CycloWizard

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Employers do not rely on schools to determine who gets fired. They rely on the employees cost vs performance. Do you know how hard it is for someone who is disabled in a wheel chair to get a job even with perfect grades and tons of letters of recommendation ? Employers don't want to have to accommodate them. They fear having to spend money on handicap doors, ramps, or bathrooms. Plenty of disabled people are fired for doing a poor job. As long as the employer is doing what would make the employee equal to other employees then the disabled person can be fired like anyone else.
And, due to the ADA, the employee can sue if they feel their disability contributed to their decreased job performance resulting in their being fired. It's a discrimination suit - happens all the time.
 

mvbighead

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ADHD... had a kid in class that "had it." Took tests at a different time than everyone else, as long as he needed. He was a lab partner of mine, and never seemed to get anything done on time... thus fucking the group. Long story short, the lab work became my work and another lab member... nothing to do with the ADHD kid... but he still got the grades.
 

Sea Moose

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ADHD... had a kid in class that "had it." Took tests at a different time than everyone else, as long as he needed. He was a lab partner of mine, and never seemed to get anything done on time... thus fucking the group. Long story short, the lab work became my work and another lab member... nothing to do with the ADHD kid... but he still got the grades.

why would you submit the work the retards name on it?

Or couldnt you put your percentage of contriution on it?

40% contributed by mvbighead
40% contributed by non retarted lab partner
20% contributed by the strain on societies resources