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What is your religious/political stance?

Marshallj

Platinum Member
I've seen a number of threads on here that seem to draw predictable responses from a number of people, probably me included. It seems many issues are polarizing, and the side people take on those issues is determined by their political stance. For example, if there were threads about abortion, assisted suicide, and right to prayer in schools, the opinions of most white fundamentalist christians will follow their "accepted" platform.

So without fighting, what is your race, political stance, and where do you live? I think it would be a pretty cool idea to find out why people vote the way they do.

I'll go first

I stand kind of in the middle of the spectrum, I find both democrats and republicans a bit extreme in their ways. I'm a non-religious white guy from New Jersey. I cannot identify with most of what John Ashcroft believes in, I think he's a bit wacko. I also find many California laws a bit off the wall, they seem to be a bit extreme also, but to the left.
 
<AOL voice>
me, too.
</AOL voice>

Seriously...just about the same. I vote for issues and background and am non-religious.
 
White, suburban middle-class male of no significant ethnic heritage with a large onus of debt, non-theist, and libertarian with republican leanings.

How's that?
 
I consider myself pretty much a middle of the road moderate, and I really don't affiliate myself with any party. I am completely non-religous, and think religion should have no place in our government. I also live in a heavily conservative state...New Hampshire. I do try to to listen to both sides of the spectrum since both have good ideas along with the bad ones. I think it's unfortunate that some people just write off the opposite side of the spectrum they are on, and miss out on some ideas they might like.

🙂
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
I consider myself pretty much a middle of the road moderate, and I really don't affiliate myself with any party. I am completely non-religous, and think religion should have no place in our government. I also live in a heavily conservative state...New Hampshire. I do try to to listen to both sides of the spectrum since both have good ideas along with the bad ones. I think it's unfortunate that some people just write off the opposite side of the spectrum they are on, and miss out on some ideas they might like.

🙂

thats me too. but i live in wisconsin.
 
White, California, I consider myself a moderate, more or less. Don't subscribe to any religion, but have no problem with people who do, as long as they don't try to shove it down my throat or use it to justify a particular position such as hating people of other races, etc.
 
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism
 
Hehe, I think everyone is just going to say they are middle ground/reasonable. Would anyone say they are extreme (which has a negative connation in this use)?

Anyways I'm a young adult asian from a well off family. I'm from Southern California (an no it's not hippy-ville, as I have lived in Orange County the bastion of Repulicans) so I'm not sure how much that has influenced me on what I consider the "norm." I do not like to associate myself with either party however, and I don't like to classify myself as an independent in a political stance as its essentially a joke in that aspect. I will vote for either party and my stances varies highly by issue (I can easily swing from one side of the spectrum to another). I was raised Catholic, but an agnostic (NOT atheist) more or less now.

Basically, poltics is an argument of balance. Mainly, how much do we value individualism/liberty compared to equality?
 
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H

...and Pro-Pantless :Q

 
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H

...and Pro-Pantless :Q

New and Improved, folks! Don't settle for a model that's ten years older! 😀

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Nice!

I would add for myself,

Anti-Penalizing Justice System ... and
Pro-Rehabilitation (Canada's avg sentence is about 1/4th of what the US is... but it's all rehabilitation. And only 1/5 convict reoffend).

I'm Chinese... very liberal, with Pro-Gun. Atheist.
 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Nice!

I would add for myself,

Anti-Penalizing Justice System ... and
Pro-Rehabilitation (Canada's avg sentence is about 1/4th of what the US is... but it's all rehabilitation. And only 1/5 convict reoffend).

I'm Chinese... very liberal, with Pro-Gun. Atheist.

The justice system wouldn't be fubar if all the non-violent drug offenders were let off. But then, how would the prison-industrial complex operate? Who would handle all of the license plate manufacturing and mail-order catalog calls?
 
Uh-oh. This just turned into a "discussion." There will be blood tonite! (50 Machie points to the first person to guess what movie that's from. This should be easy.)
 
The justice system wouldn't be fubar if all the non-violent drug offenders were let off. But then, how would the prison-industrial complex operate? Who would handle all of the license plate manufacturing and mail-order catalog calls?

Right, i agree with you on the non-violent drug offenses... and i think part of the reason why there isn't so much rehabilitation is because of the overcrowdedness of the US prisons. I think the average size of a US penitentiary is 2000 people... in Canada, the largest penitentiary is only about 800... might be closer to 1000 now, but that was consider overcrowding. Having a single cell in the US is almost unheard of unless you're in the SHU (super handling unit) or death row... in Canada, only 20% of the cells are double bunk, the rest are single bunks (less violence if people are allowed to have their own space).
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H

...and Pro-Pantless :Q

New and Improved, folks! Don't settle for a model that's ten years older! 😀

- M4H


Whoa, whoa, whoa.... (slowly backs away from thread). Pro-NAMBLA too evidently :Q 😀
 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
The justice system wouldn't be fubar if all the non-violent drug offenders were let off. But then, how would the prison-industrial complex operate? Who would handle all of the license plate manufacturing and mail-order catalog calls?

Right, i agree with you on the non-violent drug offenses... and i think part of the reason why there isn't so much rehabilitation is because of the overcrowdedness of the US prisons. I think the average size of a US penitentiary is 2000 people... in Canada, the largest penitentiary is only about 800... might be closer to 1000 now, but that was consider overcrowding. Having a single cell in the US is almost unheard of unless you're in the SHU (super handling unit) or death row... in Canada, only 20% of the cells are double bunk, the rest are single bunks (less violence if people are allowed to have their own space).

Yes, I agree here. We waste so much of our resources on incarcerating non-violent drug offenders instead of trying to actually rehabilitate them and make them productive members of society.

 
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H

...and Pro-Pantless :Q

New and Improved, folks! Don't settle for a model that's ten years older! 😀

- M4H


Whoa, whoa, whoa.... (slowly backs away from thread). Pro-NAMBLA too evidently :Q 😀

Ah, damnit. Just when you thought you had all the bases covered, NAMBLA comes creeping up and and sticks it to you.

That didn't sound right. Hrm.
 
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: MachFive
Hell, let's be more specific.
Pro-ethics.
Pro-guns.
Pro-choice.
Pro-drugs.
Pro-gambling.
Pro-prostitution.
Pro-consumer's rights
Pro-Fair Use
Pro-[insert sexual orientation here]
Pro-[insert ethnicity here]
Pro-[insert gender here]
Pro-secularization
Pro-personal freedom

Anti-Morals
Anti-Corporate welfare
Anti-shoving your religion down my throat
Anti-Gun-grabbing
Anti-Prohibition
Anti-Unnecessary socialism
Anti-Bureaocracy
Anti-Cronyism
Anti-Infinite F*CKING copyrights
Anti-Judgementalism
Anti-antidisestablismentarianism

Pro-Nef. 😀

- M4H

...and Pro-Pantless :Q

New and Improved, folks! Don't settle for a model that's ten years older! 😀

- M4H


Whoa, whoa, whoa.... (slowly backs away from thread). Pro-NAMBLA too evidently :Q 😀

Ah, damnit. Just when you thought you had all the bases covered, NAMBLA comes creeping up and and sticks it to you.

That didn't sound right. Hrm.

Ok, now that was just wrong 😀
 
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