What is this Quantico Meeting-of-Generals all about?

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mikeymikec

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I think it's likely the generals will work under the assumption that elections will continue and that there will be another president, and that they could potentially be held responsible for illegal acts should they occur under their leadership.

I don't think many generals are going to YOLO their careers when they're about a decade or so away from retirement. Donald would no doubt ensure they don't get their pensions.

I don't think the skill of dancing in the middle ground between illegality and defying the fuhrer is one that they have much experience of, and they're a bit late in life to start learning.

They will also be mindful of the likelihood that there are plenty of underlings awaiting promotion regardless of how much boot-licking it involves.

I bet a shitload will take early retirement as soon as they can, through various schemes such as their doc claiming that they've suddenly developed bone spurs, etc.
 
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DaaQ

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yeah I REALLY don't think this will be received the way they hope it will from career top military brass.

I can't even describe how disgusting this whole thing is.
I don't think there was even one clap from the brass. She said one of them paused waiting for applause and dead silence. What the wife told me.

I haven't seen anything but the fat remarks.

What is his meaning of telling them they are central casting?
Seems he has said this alot during his lifetime, alot of clips about it like the apprentice days ect.

I said I thought it was a dig at them that he is their Boss.
 

K1052

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I don't think the skill of dancing in the middle ground between illegality and defying the fuhrer is one that they have much experience of, and they're a bit late in life to start learning.

*side eye in Wehrmacht attempts to kill the actual Fuhrer*
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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fskimospy

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I don't think there was even one clap from the brass. She said one of them paused waiting for applause and dead silence. What the wife told me.

I haven't seen anything but the fat remarks.

What is his meaning of telling them they are central casting?
Seems he has said this alot during his lifetime, alot of clips about it like the apprentice days ect.

I said I thought it was a dig at them that he is their Boss.
I'm not too surprised by that - there's a very strong norm in the military against the appearance of participating in politics so the whole thing probably made them deeply uncomfortable.

Well that and Trump is talking about them turning their guns on our own citizens which they also would not like one bit.
 
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Artorias

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This strikes me as a man child playing out some fantasy they had in their head as a kid.

Real men(and women), those that are serving, done tours of duty should be absolutely repulsed by these clowns.
 

nakedfrog

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Wow, that looks like a room full of people happy to be there.

In his address, Mr. Hegseth railed against what he called “stupid rules of engagement” that he said limited soldiers and commanders in the field. He defended his firing of more than a dozen military leaders, many of them people of color and women.
That's... kind of a problematic belief.

Short NY Times article on the proceedings

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BonzaiDuck

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Start by reviewing Secretaries of Defense from Eisenhower forward: CEO General Motors, CEO Ford Motor (McNamara), . . . . . . . Robert M. Gates.

We should be ashamed of our country under Trump. I can't think of a single cabinet secretary under the Criminal in Chief which I respect or take seriously. I'm more likely to flip boogers at Hegseth than shake his hand, and if I shook his hand, I'd run to find a COVID test and swab myself immediately.

No -- Even with my new Stiolto inhalant, I expectorate a few wads of sputum per day. I could have a nice warm wad of white bubble-gum ready for either Hegseth or Trump.

Under the very unlikely circumstances where Scotty beams-me-up to arms-length from either the Pres or his stooge, I wouldn't be able to help myself. "AaaachhhKKK! AaaachhhhKKK! P-Tui! [SPLAT!]"
 

cytg111

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So it was really just to play stupid games that they collected top brass into a singular location with a public heads up on timing and location?
 

nakedfrog

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So it was really just to play stupid games that they collected top brass into a singular location with a public heads up on timing and location?
So far as we're aware, yes, it was just for Drunky the Fraud to get up on stage and jerk himself off about his "warrior ethos" and cry about woke shit and be racist, followed by Trump being stupid and racist and threatening to illegally deploy the military in the US.
 

DaaQ

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Easy, replace the complainers.
Things do not normally work this way. If this is your experience then...... where's the emojis we need?
What are you even talking about? The military largely supports Trump, easily. They will have no problem finding replacements for the complainers or those that resign.
The military, especially the Generals and Admirals take an oath to the Constitution and Country. Not to whatever that shit show was today.
To take this further, the military, as in the soldiers, are trained to follow chain of command. They follow their commanding officers first and foremost. They are not going to watch an uninformed President and then go and violate their chain of command.
Generally speaking.
No but I have seen him kick flip a skateboard directly into his nutsack.
I can still land a kickflip with lineman boots on at 52.

Putting more thought into it, a skateboard is not that long, so if he nut shot himself, he must have some short ass legs.
Start by reviewing Secretaries of Defense from Eisenhower forward: CEO General Motors, CEO Ford Motor (McNamara), . . . . . . . Robert M. Gates.

We should be ashamed of our country under Trump. I can't think of a single cabinet secretary under the Criminal in Chief which I respect or take seriously. I'm more likely to flip boogers at Hegseth than shake his hand, and if I shook his hand, I'd run to find a COVID test and swab myself immediately.

No -- Even with my new Stiolto inhalant, I expectorate a few wads of sputum per day. I could have a nice warm wad of white bubble-gum ready for either Hegseth or Trump.

Under the very unlikely circumstances where Scotty beams-me-up to arms-length from either the Pres or his stooge, I wouldn't be able to help myself. "AaaachhhKKK! AaaachhhhKKK! P-Tui! [SPLAT!]"
This is why my first post was, it'd be nice if one of them just came up and laid their idiot of war out flat. stiff arms and all.
 

Muse

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Hegseth rags on beards, long hair, fat people impersonating leaders. Conform or else and war on American cities is the message. Uh, this take is the shit:

 
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UNCjigga

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I still can’t believe that the top job at the Pentagon was given to someone who clearly has contempt for the senior brass. Not one or two generals—all of them.

If Hegseth had served in Vietnam, he seems like the kind of guy who’d skip the weed and go straight to heroin, then empty his full ammo load in a suspected VC village, then frag his CO for chewing him out on excessive force.
 

Moonbeam

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What's weird is you've made this claim before, were shown it was wrong before, and apparently learned nothing.

You would think you would have been happy to learn that you were wrong about this. Why aren't you?
Catastrophizing is a form of emotional avoidance where one ties oneself in knots worrying and obsessing over negative thoughts and fears in order to avoid feeling deeper sources of anxieties and traumatic experiences. It's a kind of fixation that defies logical data and can't be eliminate without self understanding because of the redirection and self deception it supplies.
 

Moonbeam

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I still can’t believe that the top job at the Pentagon was given to someone who clearly has contempt for the senior brass. Not one or two generals—all of them.

If Hegseth had served in Vietnam, he seems like the kind of guy who’d skip the weed and go straight to heroin, then empty his full ammo load in a suspected VC village, then frag his CO for chewing him out on excessive force.
Sounds like gay denial to me.
 

trenchfoot

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I still can’t believe that the top job at the Pentagon was given to someone who clearly has contempt for the senior brass. Not one or two generals—all of them.

If Hegseth had served in Vietnam, he seems like the kind of guy who’d skip the weed and go straight to heroin, then empty his full ammo load in a suspected VC village, then frag his CO for chewing him out on excessive force.

Can't say how long he practiced that speech of his in the mirror, all I can say is the megalomaniac living inside his head needs a serious 2x4 whoop'in. I imagine Georgie Patton kick'in the hood of his coffin wanting to get out to slap Hegseth up side his head 'til it gets spinning a few turns.

Hegseth retired out as a part-time major, meaning for one reason or another, he couldn't or wouldn't get any further up the chain. So there he is, lecturing Flag officers that paid their dues the hard way about being warriors, earning their way to the top of the heap. Along comes Hegseth, thinking his title is all he needs to get the respect he thinks he deserves. I truly felt sorry for those officers that they had to sit through all'a that embarrassing amateur hour bullshit and being insulted that way. I'm sure quite a number of them were tossing daggers out their eyes at both Hegseth and Trump, looking at them both as if they were butter bar babies that needed some lecturing of their own.
 

Pens1566

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Can't say how long he practiced that speech of his in the mirror, all I can say is the megalomaniac living inside his head needs a serious 2x4 whoop'in. I imagine Georgie Patton kick'in the hood of his coffin wanting to get out to slap Hegseth up side his head 'til it gets spinning a few turns.

Hegseth retired out as a part-time major, meaning for one reason or another, he couldn't or wouldn't get any further up the chain. So there he is, lecturing Flag officers that paid their dues the hard way about being warriors, earning their way to the top of the heap. Along comes Hegseth, thinking his title is all he needs to get the respect he thinks he deserves. I truly felt sorry for those officers that they had to sit through all'a that embarrassing amateur hour bullshit and being insulted that way. I'm sure quite a number of them were tossing daggers out their eyes at both Hegseth and Trump, looking at them both as if they were butter bar babies that needed some lecturing of their own.

He definitely practiced it. You can tell by where he was waiting for expected applause/laughter and got none.

And he was only a major in the MN reserves. He left active duty as an LT. I think that's an important distinction.