Active is not a verb, neither is corrupt. Both are adjectives.
Slow though, is a verb, and yes I would call someone slow.
Howard wanted to run with us, but he is slow. Howard, you are slow. Howard is slow. ect ect
Please, spare me your idiotic lies.
From m-w.com-
1re·tard Listen to the pronunciation of 1retard
Pronunciation:
\ri-'tärd\
Function:
verb
Etymology:
Middle English, from Anglo-French or Latin; Anglo-French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
Date:
15th century
transitive verb 1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : impede 2 : to delay academic progress by failure to promote intransitive verb : to undergo retardation
Oh, you are too stupid to look at the first main entry, is that it? Please, go back to school and learn how to read a dictionary. The word retard is properly a verb. There is an alternative slang meaning which is a noun. I don't think anyone else is stupid enough to think that the proper usage of retard is as a noun.
You are absolutely correct, I made an error, retarded in that form is an adjective.
However, my point still stands. An adjective is not a noun, and the usage of retard as a noun is only done with the slang usage of the word.
Fair enough, but by your standards words such as "baby-mama" "blinging" "fo shizle" etc etc would all be valid English words that have been used as slang for a while and are comfortable to certain people. The only difference between the words I just listed and words you are listing is perhaps your exposure to them. My claim that "bling" is a valid word (it is in Websters) has as much weight as your claim.
Retard is listed in the OED as a noun and its status as U.S. slang is dependent on context.
In the context of a delay, "A single day's retard," is proper English and is what the 1788 reference is referring to.
Retard when referring to a mentally slow person would be U.S. slang and dates from the 1970s.
grrl
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Chiropteran = retard.
First, slang and nonstandard are two different categories. Second, word meaning often changes over time, in addition to new meanings being added. Third, in which remedial class did you learn that verbs can't be used as nouns? If that is true, how do you explain:
swear, curse, fine, tax, break, fracture, puncture, crack, spit, cook, and drop out (drop-out)?
Are they?
Main Entry:
1slang Listen to the pronunciation of 1slang
Pronunciation:
\'sla?\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
origin unknown
Date:
1756
1: language peculiar to a particular group: as a: argot b: jargon 2 2: an informal nonstandard vocabulary composed typically of coinages, arbitrarily changed words, and extravagant, forced, or facetious figures of speech
? slang adjective
? slang·i·ly Listen to the pronunciation of slangily \'sla?-?-le\ adverb
? slang·i·ness Listen to the pronunciation of slanginess \'sla?-e-n?s\ noun
? slangy Listen to the pronunciation of slangy \'sla?-e\ adjective
You lose.
Oh, thank you for discovering this and pointing it out to me! I clearly had no idea that words could change meanings or that new words could be added over time, especially given that this WHOLE THREAD has been about me arguing that new words are indeed words even though they were not words 100 years ago or more.
Verbs can not be used as nouns. Those words are both verbs AND nouns. Retard is also both a verb and a noun, but the noun usage is considered slang. If you consider only proper "standard" words to be words, than using retard as a noun makes you look like a moron.
I don't have a problem with the usage of retard as a noun, I just find it hypocritical when someone argues that irregardless isn't a word while using a slang word in the same paragraph. Irregardless, ROFL, infomercial, noob, bling, and the noun usage of retard are all words of the same level.
For the same reason me going doughcheesytomatoecake now means pizza, please put it in the dictionary does not make it a word.
BeauJangles
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Man, just give it up. Of course they're words, but they aren't proper English. Neither is irregardless. Neither is retard. Neither is "lmao", "lol", or "brb."
"Give it up" is an idiom. Not proper English either.
You are just a hypocrite. You use dozens of slang words, improper words, and non-English words... and then you criticize others for using words such as irregardless.
Common usage is the difference. One person saying something doesn't make it a word, but if enough people are saying it such that you can expect the average person to know what it means then it is indeed a word.
Daverino
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Well a couple of things: A 'retard' is a noun and has been for a long time. It is an impediment or something used to slow something down.
"Even after they installed the speed bump as a retard, people still drove too fast on the street."
Referring to a mentally disabled person as a 'retard' is still slang, and is not standard usage.
"Give it up" is not idiomatic. "Up" in this case is a particle that is modifying the verb give and therefore the word is "give up," meaning "to surrender." It is ambiguous with the combination of the word 'give' with the preposition 'up' which would mean to hand something to someone in an upward direction. These are common and standard in English. Other examples are 'look up' and 'shoot down.' You can usually tell the difference between the particle and prepositional constructs by whether or not a phrase can be introduced between the verb and the modifier. In the prepositional form, the preposition always follows the verb, introducing a new phrase. In the particle form phrases can separate the verb from the particle.
"The bullet shot down the barrel of the gun"
"The bullet shot the barrel of the gun down" (wrong)
"I shot down the plane"
"I shot the plane down"
Idioms are noun or verb phrases which have a specific meaning within a specific context. They too are considered proper English and are more commonly considered to be grammatically compound words. English is extremely idiomatic and you'd have a really hard time using the language without using its idioms.
English is also very productive, compared to other languages, which means that the time and effort it takes to introduce a neologism is both brief and limited. New words are introduced into English very frequently. However, you shouldn't confuse language production with non-standard usage. 'Irregardless' is still not a word for many reasons: It is not standard, it is badly formed (double negative) and it has no distinct idiomatic definition. Language production is common for introducing new concepts, something which 'irregardless' doesn't do. It is simply a misspelling of either regardless or irrespective. Nonstandard words can eventually enter the language, although 'irregardless' has not and is still considered very bad English. And yes, if everyone used 'irregardless' then it would be a word, but few people do and many understand that it is not a real word. But consider the word 'forte' meaning 'strong suit', which should not be pronounce with an 'ay' sound on the end, and 'forte' meaning loud which should. Common pronunciation now is to pronounce both words the same in America (with the 'ay' sound) and differently in British English. The same thing occurred with the word 'route' which used to rhyme with 'hoot' but now rhymes with 'lout.' My advice to you Chiropteran is to use 'irregardless' as much as possible and hope for the best.
"Even after they installed the speed bump as a retard, people still drove too fast on the street."
Referring to a mentally disabled person as a 'retard' is still slang, and is not standard usage.
"Give it up" is not idiomatic. "Up" in this case is a particle that is modifying the verb give and therefore the word is "give up," meaning "to surrender." It is ambiguous with the combination of the word 'give' with the preposition 'up' which would mean to hand something to someone in an upward direction. These are common and standard in English. Other examples are 'look up' and 'shoot down.' You can usually tell the difference between the particle and prepositional constructs by whether or not a phrase can be introduced between the verb and the modifier. In the prepositional form, the preposition always follows the verb, introducing a new phrase. In the particle form phrases can separate the verb from the particle.
"The bullet shot down the barrel of the gun"
"The bullet shot the barrel of the gun down" (wrong)
"I shot down the plane"
"I shot the plane down"
Idioms are noun or verb phrases which have a specific meaning within a specific context. They too are considered proper English and are more commonly considered to be grammatically compound words. English is extremely idiomatic and you'd have a really hard time using the language without using its idioms.
English is also very productive, compared to other languages, which means that the time and effort it takes to introduce a neologism is both brief and limited. New words are introduced into English very frequently. However, you shouldn't confuse language production with non-standard usage. 'Irregardless' is still not a word for many reasons: It is not standard, it is badly formed (double negative) and it has no distinct idiomatic definition. Language production is common for introducing new concepts, something which 'irregardless' doesn't do. It is simply a misspelling of either regardless or irrespective. Nonstandard words can eventually enter the language, although 'irregardless' has not and is still considered very bad English. And yes, if everyone used 'irregardless' then it would be a word, but few people do and many understand that it is not a real word. But consider the word 'forte' meaning 'strong suit', which should not be pronounce with an 'ay' sound on the end, and 'forte' meaning loud which should. Common pronunciation now is to pronounce both words the same in America (with the 'ay' sound) and differently in British English. The same thing occurred with the word 'route' which used to rhyme with 'hoot' but now rhymes with 'lout.' My advice to you Chiropteran is to use 'irregardless' as much as possible and hope for the best.
You made a long post and I really thought you might have something intelligent to add to the discussion, but you are actually just writing a lot of BS that simply isn't true.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/give+up
It's an idiom. Go jump in a lake.
It's in the dictionary. It has a very clear definition. EVERYONE knows what it means.
It's a word.
Bag English? WTF does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I never claimed it was good English, proper English, literature quality, or anything else but "a word".
What do you call it if it's not a word?
Main Entry:
1word Listen to the pronunciation of 1word
Pronunciation:
\'w?rd\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German wort word, Latin verbum, Greek eirein to say, speak, Hittite weriya- to call, name
Date:
before 12th century
1 a: something that is said bplural (1): talk, discourse <putting one's feelings into words> (2): the text of a vocal musical composition c: a brief remark or conversation <would like to have a word with you>2 a (1): a speech sound or series of speech sounds that symbolizes and communicates a meaning usually without being divisible into smaller units capable of independent use (2): the entire set of linguistic forms produced by combining a single base with various inflectional elements without change in the part of speech elements b (1): a written or printed character or combination of characters representing a spoken word <the number of words to a line> ?sometimes used with the first letter of a real or pretended taboo word prefixed as an often humorous euphemism <the first man to utter the f word on British TV ? Time><we were not afraid to use the d word and talk about death ? Erma Bombeck> (2): any segment of written or printed discourse ordinarily appearing between spaces or between a space and a punctuation mark c: a number of bytes processed as a unit and conveying a quantum of information in communication and computer work3: order, command <don't move till I give the word>4often capitalized a: logos b: gospel 1a c: the expressed or manifested mind and will of God5 a: news, information <sent word that he would be late> b: rumor6: the act of speaking or of making verbal communication7: saying, proverb8: promise, declaration <kept her word>9: a quarrelsome utterance or conversation ?usually used in plural <they had words and parted>10: a verbal signal : password11slang ?used interjectionally to express agreement
? good word
1: a favorable statement <put in a good word for me>2: good news <what's the good word>
? in a word
: in short
? in so many words
1: in exactly those terms <implied that such actions were criminal but did not say so in so many words>2: in plain forthright language <in so many words, she wasn't fit to be seen ? Jean Stafford>
? of few words
: not inclined to say more than is necessary : laconic <a man of few words>
? of one's word
: that can be relied on to keep a promise ?used only after man or woman<a man of his word>
? upon my word
: with my assurance : indeed, assuredly <upon my word, I've never heard of such a thing>
Read the very first definition, it is crystal clear.
A word is "something that is said".
Irregardless, regardless of your opinion of it, is "something that is said", and is therefore a word.
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Sorry, but that is an entirely archaic use of the word. I have NEVER heard or read "retard" used as a noun in my life, and I am not only old, but learned.
While it may remain proper, the use of "retard" as a noun in its denotative state (as above, meaning 'delay") is non-existent in the US, and probably nearly so in England, as well.
You can look stuff up to support your misapprehension, son, but it doesn't make it so.
I can't believe people are so anal retentive about irregardless, when half their internet vocabulary isn't recognized by the dictionary.
I apologize for calling you stupid, but nevertheless the noun form of the word is SLANG. The alternate form used in AsianriceX's example surprised me, because I have never heard anyone use the word in such a way.
That meaning is clearly not the intended usage when you call me a retard- you are implying the slang usage.
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