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DivideBYZero

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Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: dNor
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
regardless/irregardless

That'snot/Afuckinword

Yes it is, you fail horribly at life go die in a fire.

Notice how "incorrect", "erroneous", "nonstandard", and "use regardless" are all displayed there? That's because it's used by failtards that don't know English and await death by chemical fires.

From his first link...


Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
ir·re·gard·less Audio Help /??r?'g?rdl?s/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ir-i-gahrd-lis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
?adverb Nonstandard.
regardless.
[Origin: 1910?15; ir-2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless]

?Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.

Right. The only time an educated person may even use such a nonstandard word is for a ridiculous emphasis, certainly not to post a thread asking what the difference between it and regardless is.

He seems pretty happy with failspeak though, so more power to him! ;)

'Failtard' and 'failspeak' are words, then?
 

JS80

Lifer
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flammable is technically not a word either. however it is accepted use.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Not quite. The term is clinically known as mental retardation, and thus a person stricken with the unfortunate affliction is known as a retard.

Only in slang. Look at the linguistics of what you are really doing.


A person is physically active.
Would you ever call such a person an "active"?

A person is ethically corrupt.
Would you ever call such a person a "corrupt"?

A person is mentally slow.
Would you ever call such a person a "slow"?

No. In every case, it makes you sound like an idiot if you try to use a verb as a noun.

A person is mentally retarded.
Would you ever call such a person a "retard"?

Except that retard has been a word for about 200 years.
 

Vehemence

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: dNor

He seems pretty happy with failspeak though, so more power to him! ;)

There you go again, you keep using non-words in your discussion about whether irregardless is word or not (which it is).

I never even used the word myself, but it fit the pattern of words I was thinking about so I listed it. However, just to piss you off I'm going to start using it.

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Given the choice of saying regardless or irregardless I can't imagine why anybody would choose to use the word irregardless, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

It looks like he's just trying to cobble up any excuse to use it to try and annoy people since it's shown in a dictionary (right next to "incorrect"). ;)
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
irregardless is a word the same way momentariliy means "in a short while". If enough stupid people make the same mistakes for long enough, the mistake becomes accepted.

momentariliy isn't a word
 

jonks

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Mwilding
irregardless is a word the same way momentariliy means "in a short while". If enough stupid people make the same mistakes for long enough, the mistake becomes accepted.

momentariliy isn't a word

sure it is, it's a flower that only lives a very short while. oh wait, that's a momentarilily.

you're welcome piers anthony
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: OdiN

momentariliy isn't a word

Sure it is, if you spell it correctly, momentarily. Whats with you word nazis? You don't like words you didn't invent yourself? Language isn't static, there are new words being invented everyday. If you don't want to use them, that is your choice, but you certainly don't have any authority to tell other people not to use them.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: OdiN

momentariliy isn't a word

Sure it is, if you spell it correctly, momentarily. Whats with you word nazis? You don't like words you didn't invent yourself? Language isn't static, there are new words being invented everyday. If you don't want to use them, that is your choice, but you certainly don't have any authority to tell other people not to use them.

Do you have an axe to grind? Did your English teacher mark up a paper for using words like "irregardless?" I just don't get why you hate the fact that irregardless isn't really a word.
 

JujuFish

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Originally posted by: jonks
There is no setting where irregardless will be considered proper by well spoken people. It's existence is now tolerated but only in favor with the uninformed.
There is also no setting where "it's" is possessive.
 

Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
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irregardless just means the person who is using it is an idiot that's trying to sound smart.
 

Chiropteran

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Do you have an axe to grind? Did your English teacher mark up a paper for using words like "irregardless?" I just don't get why you hate the fact that irregardless isn't really a word.

No, I never use the word except in hypothetical discussions.

I just don't understand this silly obsession with the English language of 50 years ago. Irregardless is just one of hundreds of words that were not considered words 50 years ago, I don't see why it upsets people so much.

It wasn't a word 100 years ago, it is now. Get over it.

Plus, it's particularly hypocritical when someone who regularly uses internet slang complains about "irregardless" not being a word.
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Not quite. The term is clinically known as mental retardation, and thus a person stricken with the unfortunate affliction is known as a retard.

Only in slang. Look at the linguistics of what you are really doing.


A person is physically active.
Would you ever call such a person an "active"?

A person is ethically corrupt.
Would you ever call such a person a "corrupt"?

A person is mentally slow.
Would you ever call such a person a "slow"?

No. In every case, it makes you sound like an idiot if you try to use a verb as a noun.

A person is mentally retarded.
Would you ever call such a person a "retard"?

Yes, but only because it came into common usage. It's a slang word, it doesn't really make sense to use it as a noun, but because people have been saying it for the last 20 years it feels normal to use it that way.

Irregardless is the exact same. It started as slang, it doesn't make sense to use it as a word when regardless means the same thing, but because it has been in common usage it's recognized as a word.

theres no real known start of it, most say it was due to a mistake and not intentional use. other reports say it was due to a comic radio program coining it as a word.


and what do you suggest people call the "retards"? if you call them mentally challenged youre falling into the same trap.
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Except that retard has been a word for about 200 years.

Yes. A verb that means slow. Not a noun.

Retard has existed as a noun since 1788.

Retardation is the noun form of the word. Retard as used to describe a mentally retarded person is slang.
 

darkxshade

Lifer
Mar 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Do you have an axe to grind? Did your English teacher mark up a paper for using words like "irregardless?" I just don't get why you hate the fact that irregardless isn't really a word.

No, I never use the word except in hypothetical discussions.

I just don't understand this silly obsession with the English language of 50 years ago. Irregardless is just one of hundreds of words that were not considered words 50 years ago, I don't see why it upsets people so much.

It wasn't a word 100 years ago, it is now. Get over it.

Plus, it's particularly hypocritical when someone who regularly uses internet slang complains about "irregardless" not being a word.

No one is complaining about it not being a word, they are trying to convince you that it's not a word but you refuse to accept it :confused:
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Do you have an axe to grind? Did your English teacher mark up a paper for using words like "irregardless?" I just don't get why you hate the fact that irregardless isn't really a word.

No, I never use the word except in hypothetical discussions.

I just don't understand this silly obsession with the English language of 50 years ago. Irregardless is just one of hundreds of words that were not considered words 50 years ago, I don't see why it upsets people so much.

It wasn't a word 100 years ago, it is now. Get over it.

Plus, it's particularly hypocritical when someone who regularly uses internet slang complains about "irregardless" not being a word.

I am over it, irregardless is a stupid bastardization of two words. People might use it, but it makes them sound stupid.

Edit: And regarding internet slang, it's terrible. People use it and it becomes incorporated into language, but I don't think that anybody is dumb enough to think that words like "pwned" or "lol" or "omgwtfbbq" are really words.

I'm all for language evolving, but I think the disregard for 'proper' English is getting out of hand. Kids are handing in essays written in internet slang and that should never be acceptable. Language has an inherent beauty and allowing to become something like "Ill c u latr" removes anything beautiful, charming, or magical about written words. Most people don't write incredibly well, and I don't mean to say that everyone should be the next Walt Whitman, but I just don't understand why people don't want to learn to speak properly and instead get indignant when they're told words they like aren't real.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Except that retard has been a word for about 200 years.

Yes. A verb that means slow. Not a noun.

Retard has existed as a noun since 1788.

Retardation is the noun form of the word. Retard as used to describe a mentally retarded person is slang.

Retard is synonymous with retardation.
 

Chiropteran

Diamond Member
Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Retard is synonymous with retardation.

One is a noun, the other is not.

The retardation of the motor increased due to friction. Makes sense.

The retard of the motor increased due to friction. Sounds like something a retard would say.

No. you can't just use retard as a noun, sorry. Not unless you are using the slang form of the word.

The friction caused the motor to retard. Proper use, retard is a verb.
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I'm all for language evolving, but I think the disregard for 'proper' English is getting out of hand. Kids are handing in essays written in internet slang and that should never be acceptable. Language has an inherent beauty and allowing to become something like "Ill c u latr" removes anything beautiful, charming, or magical about written words. Most people don't write incredibly well, and I don't mean to say that everyone should be the next Walt Whitman, but I just don't understand why people don't want to learn to speak properly and instead get indignant when they're told words they like aren't real.

So do you get pissed off when you give someone good news and they say "cool"? Does it bother you when someone is talking about getting a ticket and then they say "cops suck"?

Don't you realize that the majority of the words we take for granted were once formed the EXACT SAME WAY? Old English was a very different language. What makes these modern changes of the language worse than the changes that occurred 800 years ago?
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Not quite. The term is clinically known as mental retardation, and thus a person stricken with the unfortunate affliction is known as a retard.

Only in slang. Look at the linguistics of what you are really doing.


A person is physically active.
Would you ever call such a person an "active"?

A person is ethically corrupt.
Would you ever call such a person a "corrupt"?

A person is mentally slow.
Would you ever call such a person a "slow"?

No. In every case, it makes you sound like an idiot if you try to use a verb as a noun.

A person is mentally retarded.
Would you ever call such a person a "retard"?

Yes, but only because it came into common usage. It's a slang word, it doesn't really make sense to use it as a noun, but because people have been saying it for the last 20 years it feels normal to use it that way.

Irregardless is the exact same. It started as slang, it doesn't make sense to use it as a word when regardless means the same thing, but because it has been in common usage it's recognized as a word.
holy crap, man.
 

Chiropteran

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Nov 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Retard is synonymous with retardation.

One is a noun, the other is not.

Oh really? Let me quote Merriam-Webster for you:
Main Entry:
re·tard
noun
Date:
1788

1\ri-'tärd\: a holding back or slowing down : retardation

Yes, retardation is the noun form.

Just use retard in a sentence as a noun. The proper use of the word, not the slang use. Just one make one sentence to prove me wrong, it should be easy for you.
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Retard is synonymous with retardation.

One is a noun, the other is not.

Oh really? Let me quote Merriam-Webster for you:
Main Entry:
re·tard
noun
Date:
1788

1\ri-'tärd\: a holding back or slowing down : retardation

Yes, retardation is the noun form.

Just use retard in a sentence as a noun. The proper use of the word, not the slang use. Just one make one sentence to prove me wrong, it should be easy for you.

You are a retard.