what is the difference between a republican and a democrat?

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JellyBaby

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Another distinction to make is platform vs. reality. There may well be a R and D platform to describe each but both parties don't mind leaving promises unkept, moving to the middle during elections, and otherwise doing things that make them impossible to label R or D. So basically there are no guarantees they'll do what they claim is their position.

I find it grandly amusing america allows one party to ascend the Throne only to watch them crap on it, then proceed to place the other party on the Throne, only to watch them crap on it, then proceed to put the other party back on the Throne....ad loopae infinitae.

They won't turn to a third party because third parties can't win. Thus we're locked into perpertual leadership by twin groups of hypocrites. Eventually, this must fail. I'm doing my part to prevent it but I just hope the Apocolypse comes after my lifetime.
 

Zoe

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The fundamental difference between Republicans and Democrats goes way back to the days of the founding fathers in the 1700's. Back then, you had two parties (Federalists and Democrats) that were the predecessors to the 2 parties of today. Over the last 250 years, there was something of a name switcheroo, so you have;

The 1700's Federalists = todays Democrats
The 1700's Democrats = todays Republicans

The bottom line is that the Federalists favored more federal involvement(they wanted the govt to do more for the people), and the Democrats favored less (they wanted the govt to stay the hell out of ppl's lives). This is the fundamental difference between the Repubs and Democrats. Everything else is built on this.

 

Valhalla1

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<< << if Russ were a woman, I'd marry her >>

Yeah and if you had balls you'd be a amn.

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whoa now, Red. whats with the sudden bashing of Val? tell me you were joking, or I might have to start disagreeing with you. :Q
 

SVTPower

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Wow RED with all your smart talk and spelling did your reading glasses get foggy. I said My HOUSEHOLD income is NEAR 6 figures. And next time quote me, so you have it to read over. That way you know what your talking about.



SVTPower, sure you make 6 figures, don't all here make 6 figures? I think everybody on the Internet makes 6 figures. I bet you Daddy makes six figures too so he can afford to buy you your Emachine you so proudly type your rubbish on.

^^^^^^ What is this?? I'm happy to admit I Suck at English as a subject. But it's funny when you go off and hammer me about it then you say &quot;I bet you daddy&quot;

 

SVTPower

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Fortunately for you it was I who commented about it and due to my poor spelling it came out extremely lame

Spelling makes your posts lame?? Could have fooled me.
 

Valhalla1

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<< Come in Val, after the crap you said about &quot;Deocrats&quot; you didn'rexpect someone to jump on the &quot;I'd Marry Russ&quot; post? >>



goddamit.. good one.
 

Valhalla1

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RedDawn

oops, I'm sorry. I thought it was &quot;dusk&quot;. I was unfamiliar with your name, you must be new around here. :Q
 

SVTPower

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SVTPower is all you need to know.

I say you should enable yourself to be rated, I'm betting you'll get some seriously high numbers.....of votes, at 1
 

JenniZ

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OH PUHLEEEEZ

The difference between AVERAGE republicans and democrats is very small. Its only the extreamists of each party that makes people view them as different. In reality they are the same party, the extreamists just keep them apart.

Back in the slave days republicans were 'liberal', and democrats were very 'conservative'. So dont feed me the line that all republicans are conservative and democrats are all liberal. I know very conservative democrats, and liberal republicans. Like I said, its only the extreamists that form people's def's. In reality they are the same party, and are both worthless.
 

classy

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Well, more Republican Garbage. I am starting to think most of you Republicans starred in the Wizard of OZ as the Scare Crow. Running around saying &quot;I wonder what I would do with a Brain.&quot;

&quot;A liberal will try to make everyone equal, even if it means sacrificing the achiever on the altar of the lethargic masses, and will continually interfere in the natural order of life in an effort to maintain power and control.&quot;

Russ excuse me oh great and wise Master, forgive me for wanting to an equal.

Some of you guys are so self-righteous, self-center, and selfish. No compassion, no mercy, and clearly no understanding. Dog eat, dog eat. Some of you clowns are going to die sick and lonely old people. And its sad. Some of you guys I thought were good people. I can't understand how any person could just be so damn selfish. But I would give anything to see some of your faces when son or daughter comes strolling in telling you they are getting married. Anybody remember that movie &quot;Guess Who's Coming to Dinner&quot;, lol. I can see some of clowns now. Open the door and have a heart attack when you see they are probably some minority who's entire family is on welfare. hehehehehehehehehe

And don't think it doesn't happen. Trust me. It does! :)
 

JenniZ

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Blah, just wait for their daughter to bring home another girl. :)
I've done that once :)

My parents are 'average' republicans, and didn't mind that their daughter is bisexual.
 

Russ

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<< As far as Politicians go, Democrats have a lame Idea that they can change what's wrong in this country by throwing money at it from taxing the hell out of us. >>





<< The Republican Politicians don't even try to help what's wrong with this country, they are just interested in what they can get out of us. >>



Red,

Huh?



<< Russ excuse me oh great and wise Master, forgive me for wanting to an equal. >>



Classy,

I'd like nothing better then for you to be equal. In point of fact, I would be joyous if you became successful beyond your wildest dreams, and possessed enormous wealth. The difference is that I expect you to EARN it.

Russ, NCNE
 

GaryTcs

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Amen Russ,

I have no problems with any minority group as a whole, just the individuals who have no drive to succeed. I've never had more trouble with any minority group than another.

Classy wants to be my equal. Fine, just go out put your house and family on the line, beg, borrow, and steal every last dime you can, then go out and work 100+ hours a week for 5-10 years (giving 37% to the government) to pay that money back, and you'll be there. Success in anything in life doesn't just happen. &quot;nothing truly great is ever accomplished without the risk of great failure&quot;. What you really want is to get the success without the personal risk, or hard work. It will never happen. (Try the Lottery)

Those living off the system should be happy when one of us succeeds, 37% of 100,000 is much more than 17% of 24,000. This translates into more crack for you!!

 

SuperTool

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I don't think welfare is a good program. It removes the urgency of finding a job, and basically allows people to live without working in perpetuity.
I do think that the government needs to provide minimum health care and education needs for everyone. If someone becomes disabled, can't work and needs medicines, I think don't think we should just say &quot;tough sh!t&quot; and let people die if they can't afford medicines or treatments.
Also, I am a strong believer that anyone with the will and the brains to get a good education should not be stopped from achieving their dream because they can't afford it. So I do believe in subsidized college loans and some grants for people willing to pursue higher education. I think this is crucial for the long term success of the US. We need all the skilled people we can get.
I don't think the government should be involved in moral or religious issues.
Since I am going to start working soon and I will be in a high tax bracket, I should be a Republican. However, the republicans are being arrogant self-righteous pricks, and it makes it hard for me to be sympathetic to them.
I guess what it comes down too, is regardless of the platform, neither party wants to give up the pork to actually accomplish anything. I mean the republicans will cut taxes, but I don't think they will cut spending much, so we will have deficits again. Since I am living in Democrat states, I will just pick a party that will bring some of the tax money back to my area, which would be the democrats.
 

shifrbv

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Supertool - You're right. I was blasted by a Republican in another forum who thought I was a terrible person because I had Pell Grants to help me get through college. I was labeled as a person who took handouts on the backs of others hard labor. This person thought that it would be better for me to work at McDonald's or Wal-Mart for the rest of my life than to be helped by the state so I could become a more valuable worker in the US economy.

This seems absurd as every other industrialized country offers higher educational opportunities to it's citizens regardless of wealth. Not to mention that an ignorant workforce in today's competitive marketplace would be economic suicide.

But I guess many Republicans don't see it this way. They want to cut back on educational programs which help to benefit the &quot;less wealthy&quot; in society in the guise of &quot;fairness&quot;.

And for Russ - Rich Republicans do give a lot more to charity than the average, lower income Democrat. But it's only because of the estate tax and the fact that charities are a decent loophole to avoid paying the money to the government. Once the estate tax is abolished (which has been promised under a Republican administration), there will be no incentive for rich Republicans to donate money to universities or any other charitable organization because they'll just keep it for themselves instead of giving it to others for the benefit of society. Without a doubt, that figure will decline once that code is passed.

 

GL

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There are two types of Republicans:

1) The first type is characterized by a tremendously independent person that does care about his neighbours and doesn't feel it is the government's right to tell him which neighbours he helps financially and to what extent he helps those he chooses.

2) The second type is characterized by a tremendously dependent person - dependent on rules that keep his silver-spoon-stuffed mouth at the top of the social pecking order and doesn't feel it is the government's right to force him to give ANY of his money to ANY one cuz damnit he earned it by being born into his family.

There are two types of Democrats:

1) The first type is characterized by a tremendously independent person that cares about his neighbours and feels that since he plans on helping out his neighbours financially, the government could probably do a good job at handling this aspect of his charity, and should just go ahead and do it so that there is some sort of baseline standard of living.

2) The second type is characterized by a tremendously dependent person - dependent on rules that keep his sorry ass from the street because he made one bad decision in life to drop out of school and so he is completely worthless and unable to do anything else in life and earn a living.

90% of Americans are characterized by Type 1 Republicans and Democrats and would be much better off without the 10% of Americans that are characterized by Type 2 Republicand and Democrats.

Just my opinion of course...and who am I to talk...I'm Canadian, eh;)

-GL
 

NesuD

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bobby ribs is a demobrat Russ is a republican read some of their posts and i think you will see the difference
 

Helpless

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I always use the tree anology:

...One is a tree-hugger; the other is a tree-cutter-downer :)