What is the attraction of low profile tires?

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RCN

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
They allow me to use 17' rims and still have the proper strut movement without having that fat tire look..........

And also allow your car's "appearance" decrease your performance.

bling, bling, yo!

and how does my performance decrease?
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
They allow me to use 17' rims and still have the proper strut movement without having that fat tire look..........

And also allow your car's "appearance" decrease your performance.

bling, bling, yo!

He said 17", not 20".
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
They allow me to use 17' rims and still have the proper strut movement without having that fat tire look..........

And also allow your car's "appearance" decrease your performance.

bling, bling, yo!

He said 17", not 20".

well I just figured 17 foot wheels would be a little detrimental. That's just a little too much bling.

:)

Anyway, larger wheels don't equal better. It's one big balancing act IMHO.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
They allow me to use 17' rims and still have the proper strut movement without having that fat tire look..........

And also allow your car's "appearance" decrease your performance.

bling, bling, yo!

and how does my performance decrease?

More weight farther from the hub.
 

RCN

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
They allow me to use 17' rims and still have the proper strut movement without having that fat tire look..........

And also allow your car's "appearance" decrease your performance.

bling, bling, yo!

and how does my performance decrease?

More weight farther from the hub.


So I should have kept the 14" steel with 205/70s?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: RCN
So I should have kept the 14" steel with 205/70s?

Civic?

Type R sticker would have been better.

bling, yo...bling.

bling, bling, bling rolling on da 17s, bling.

yo!
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
So I should have kept the 14" steel with 205/70s?

Civic?

Type R sticker would have been better.

bling, yo...bling.

bling, bling, bling rolling on da 17s, bling.

yo!

I don't think Civic wheels are that wide. At least mine aren't.
 

RCN

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
So I should have kept the 14" steel with 205/70s?

Civic?

Type R sticker would have been better.

bling, yo...bling.

bling, bling, bling rolling on da 17s, bling.

yo!

Actually it is a 240Z. The wheels are CCW 17" classics 10" rear 9.5" front.

Will be doing the same to the 280z......


any other stupid ass comments you would like to make?
 

bootymac

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When you increase the wheel diameter, you have to decrease the tire sidewall size inorder to maintain the overall diameter of the wheel and tire combined, otherwise your speedometer and odometer will be incorrect.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: RCN
Actually it is a 240Z. The wheels are CCW 17" classics 10" rear 9.5" front.

Will be doing the same to the 280z......


any other stupid ass comments you would like to make?

Sure...

If you've got the power to turn them then you're good.
:thumbsup:
 

RCN

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RCN
Actually it is a 240Z. The wheels are CCW 17" classics 10" rear 9.5" front.

Will be doing the same to the 280z......


any other stupid ass comments you would like to make?

Sure...

If you've got the power to turn them then you're good.
:thumbsup:

280 is ~350hp w/ the 3.1 L28ET

240 has a 450hp RB26DETT siting on the stand.

I think I'm ok...........
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Lower sidewalls provide better grip & handling around curves because they don't compress as much.

Yup.

I just installed 50's on my car and I DO notice a difference.

(But since I put them on my stock size wheels, my mileage also took a BIG HIT. :( )
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SampSon
I don't see many professional racecars using low profile tires at all.
That's a result or rules. There is a restriction on maximum wheel diameter and in order to get the tire diameter large enough so that it works with gearing the sidewalls have to be taller. That's why F1, IRL, CART, and NASCAR cars run tires with higher profiles. Watch an ALMS (American LeMans Series) race and look at the tires on those cars. They're all low-profile because the rules allow them. Additionally, F1 tires are so wide that they actually are low profile.

An F1 tire is 660mm in outer diameter. The maximum wheel diameter is 332mm. This means that the sidewalls are 328mm in total. This is a 164mm sidewall height. An F1 tire is 380mm wide for rear tires and 355mm wide for front tires. That means that F1 tires are 380/43 R 12.9 (we'll call it 380/45 R13 for convenience) rear and 355/46 R 12.9 (again, we'll call it 355/45 R 13 for convenience). That means that F1 tires are actually 45-series tires, which is definitely considered "low-profile". They're just so much wider than street tires that they're taller (45% of 380 is a lot more than 45% of 225).

ZV

Exactly! The reason for the rim size in F1 is REGULATIONS, not performance.

2005 rules:

Article 12.4 gives you the wheel dimensions.

Front wheel width: 305-355mm
Rear wheel width: 365-380mm
Wheel diameter: <660mm with dry tires, <670mm with wet-weather tires
Wheel bead diameter: 328-332mm

The wheels would be carbon fiber, except Article 12.3 requires that they be made of a homogeneous metallic material. There's no liquid cooling of the brakes because Article 11.6 forbids it.

 

Shawn

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Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Shawn
because if I didn't the tires would rub against the sidewalls. duh.

:confused:^infinity

I increased the size of my wheels from 14" to 16". There wouldn't be enough clearance to fit the same type of tires as I had before. Becides, even if there was it would screw up the speedometer and odometer readings.
 

ballmode

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They are nice to have during warm times, but during the cold I'll take a winter tire or all season thank you
 

Imported

Lifer
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I went from 205/60/16 to 235/45/17 to keep the same overall diameter so it wouldn't f--- up my spedometer. I guess that's why I went with a lower profile tire.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: miri
i have them on my scion tc and do not like them. i like my car that gets 31mpg highway with airconditioner and large hatchback area, but i dont like the tires. They also cost more to replace.

You are paying more money for less rubber.
 

Googer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Lower sidewalls provide better grip & handling around curves because they don't compress as much.
I don't see many professional racecars using low profile tires at all.

Oh, please...never? Race Car tires
Dead link, and no where did I say "never" in my post.

I understand there are low-profile race tires. Though the race tire sidwalls are usually stiffer than normal road tires.

There is no need for big 17inch rims and ultra lowprofile tires. It will give you a negligable "advantage" in cornering. Where as the properly selected wheel/tire size will respond much better throughout your drive.

People put low profile tires on their cars for looks, not for performance.


LOL, my link is to a pic of NASCAR cars with monster truck tires ie; its a joke son:)

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/157500/157830KpRO_w.jpg I don't know why the link does't work, but it works in a browser.


Worth1000 is a photoshop contest. That picture is fake.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: Shawn
because if I didn't the tires would rub against the sidewalls. duh.

:confused:^infinity

I increased the size of my wheels from 14" to 16". There wouldn't be enough clearance to fit the same type of tires as I had before. Becides, even if there was it would screw up the speedometer and odometer readings.

Just the speedometer.