What is more important right now.. whining about immigration or fighting BP

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Patranus

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So here is a question.

The DOJ is going to challenge the AZ law saying immigration is a federal law and can therefor only be enforced by the federal government.

Now, if the federal government is the only one who can enforce federal law, what would stop a state from, say, stop enforcing any other federal law?

The state could simply say that the federal law is not our problem and if the federal government wants it enforced it is their responsibility.
 

shangshang

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So why did W not clean up this illegal mess when he was in office with a supporting Congress???? Hmmm, could it be that W couldn't do shit about the problem because the American businessmen actually like cheap illegal labor?? Hmmmm.
 

dahunan

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A sea turtle surfaces at South Pass, La., to feed on an oil-contaminated Portuguese man-of-war -- a sea creature often mistaken for a jellyfish. Since the spill, authorities have found 186 sea turtles, most of them dead.


May 2, 2010
Justin Main, left, and Kelly Folkedahl collect a dead sea turtle in Pass Christian, Miss. The researchers from the Institute of Marine Mammal Sciences planned to examine carcasses to determine the cause of death.



^^^ Picture #9 and picture # 25

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/05/21/GA2010052104134.html
 

dali71

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A sea turtle surfaces at South Pass, La., to feed on an oil-contaminated Portuguese man-of-war -- a sea creature often mistaken for a jellyfish. Since the spill, authorities have found 186 sea turtles, most of them dead.


May 2, 2010
Justin Main, left, and Kelly Folkedahl collect a dead sea turtle in Pass Christian, Miss. The researchers from the Institute of Marine Mammal Sciences planned to examine carcasses to determine the cause of death.



^^^ Picture #9 and picture # 25

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/05/21/GA2010052104134.html

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html

human life > wildlife
 

blackangst1

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Arent drug related laws federal? How about responding to bank robberies? Maybe states should just stop enforcing ANY federal law. Sounds like a great plan to me!
 

blackangst1

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So why did W not clean up this illegal mess when he was in office with a supporting Congress???? Hmmm, could it be that W couldn't do shit about the problem because the American businessmen actually like cheap illegal labor?? Hmmmm.

lol

Fuckin troll ;)
 

werepossum

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What would Reagan do about the oil spill?

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
Ronald Reagan
Pretty much the same things as Obama I would think - but then I'm not the one attempting to argue (albeit laughably poorly so) that we should ignore illegal immigration in order to focus on the oil spill. The federal government has the legal authority (I think since '91) to take control over the oil spill; that Obama has not exercised this right indicates either that he finds it politically expedient to not do so (a position more jaded than even my own views toward him), or that the federal government is totally clueless as to what to do as well as unprepared to do anything to plug the leak. Obama being a big government guy and Reagan being a little government guy, I can't imagine we would be any more prepared under Reagan. (Sadly, the obvious corollary - that we would be better prepared under a big government president - is obviously not true.)

I think the quadrupled tax would be an excellent idea if the federal government would really use it to purchase remediation assets, hire personnel, and train, not to mention revising our current oversight to actual oversight rather than merely generating an ass-covering paper trail. The only ways we're going to be able to stop future deep water spills like this is either for government to develop the infrastructure, or for industry to do so. As long as the cap is $75 million industry is certainly not going to do so - it's just not cost effective. So either government mandates it, or government does it. Frankly I'd prefer the former, but considering the tragically bad job of oversight the government has been doing I think the latter might work a bit better. Well, a bit less worse.
 

Patranus

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I wonder what happens if the government takes over the BP oil spill and makes it worse.
 

nick1985

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So why did W not clean up this illegal mess when he was in office with a supporting Congress???? Hmmm, could it be that W couldn't do shit about the problem because the American businessmen actually like cheap illegal labor?? Hmmmm.

but...but....but...BUSH!!