What is it with the more displacement is better mentality?

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Vic Vega

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Because hillbillies will never use a turbocharger. Sales of diesel trucks would drop like a rock if diesel trucks had a big sticker on the back that said it was turbo charged. "I don't want no stinkin turbo diesel. I want the real thing!"

My word you are stupid.

People specifically buy these trucks BECAUSE they are turbocharged and the ability to increase HP is relatively easy.
 

LTC8K6

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Because hillbillies will never use a turbocharger. Sales of diesel trucks would drop like a rock if diesel trucks had a big sticker on the back that said it was turbo charged. "I don't want no stinkin turbo diesel. I want the real thing!"

Just let them drive the same truck with the same diesel engine, one with a turbo, and one without...they won't want "the real thing" anymore...Your attempt at humor aside...
 

Jeff7181

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Because it pulls in as much air and fuel as a much larger engine :D
(and the hissing noise sounds cool)

Have you heard a hillbilly with a wad of tobacco in their lip imitate the hiss of a turbo spooling up? It's hilarious. :)
 

JulesMaximus

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Because hillbillies will never use a turbocharger. Sales of diesel trucks would drop like a rock if diesel trucks had a big sticker on the back that said it was turbo charged. "I don't want no stinkin turbo diesel. I want the real thing!"

:confused: Ford, Dodge, and Chevy/GM all have turbo-diesels in their biggest trucks for maximum towing/hauling capability. Dodge and Chevy/GM don't even offer a non-turbocharged diesel if I'm not mistaken.
 

exar333

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Just let them drive the same truck with the same diesel engine, one with a turbo, and one without...they won't want "the real thing" anymore...Your attempt at humor aside...

Many, many semis use turbos. They are exceptional for truck applications where torque is needed at relativelt low RPMs and pair well with disels.
 

exdeath

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We already used the examples of the 2011 WRX and the Lancer Evo and you didn't accept those either. You are assuming that "replace" means all conditions must be the same, which is the exact opposite of what the word means.


you: I can't get a bulb brighter than this 60W bulb without increasing our energy bills.
wife: Replace the 60W incandescent bulb with a 30W fluorescent bulb. It will be brighter and it will consume less energy. We absolutely can increase the brightness without increasing the power consumption.
you: That is not a valid comparison. You can only compare incandescent bulbs to other incandescent bulbs, in which case a 100W bulb would be brighter than a 60W bulb. If you're talking about a fluorescent bulb, a 100W fluorescent is brighter than 60W fluorescent. I cannot replace our existing 60W incandescent bulb with a 30W fluorescent bulb because they are not the same type.
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Because hillbillies will never use a turbocharger. Sales of diesel trucks would drop like a rock if diesel trucks had a big sticker on the back that said it was turbo charged. "I don't want no stinkin turbo diesel. I want the real thing!"

And niether can replace a 1500 watt halogen bulb in applications where it's desired. Your analogy is defeated yet again.

But to play along with an analogy of my own... I would not care to replace a 60w incandescent with an equal brightness 30w flourescent... I could stay neutral in my energy use with a 60w flourescent and simply benefit from increased brightness.
 
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yottabit

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AFAIK there are no (or very few) naturally aspirated diesels on the road produced in at least the last 20 yrs

diesel power output is anemic without a turbo but happens to work great with them

look up a 'detroit diesel' if you wanna see a naturally aspirated diesel (wind out that 2 stroke!)
 

Zargon

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ford had some NA diesels, so did mercedes, in the last 20

I recall both being lacking....
 

LTC8K6

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Many, many semis use turbos. They are exceptional for truck applications where torque is needed at relativelt low RPMs and pair well with disels.

One of the trucks on IRT lost it's turbo, iirc. It could barely move the load. Had to leave the trailer and go get the turbo repaired.
 

Jeff7181

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One of the trucks on IRT lost it's turbo, iirc. It could barely move the load. Had to leave the trailer and go get the turbo repaired.

Part of that is due to the engine being tuned to run with positive manifold pressure. Valve timing and fuel delivery and such are all tuned based on a massive amount of air being rammed into the cylinder. If the engine was designed and tuned to run without forced induction I think it would have an easier time of moving the load, but probably won't be climbing up any of those steep hills at 55 mph like those 600+ HP, 2000+ ft/lb turbo diesels.
 

LTC8K6

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Part of that is due to the engine being tuned to run with positive manifold pressure. Valve timing and fuel delivery and such are all tuned based on a massive amount of air being rammed into the cylinder. If the engine was designed and tuned to run without forced induction I think it would have an easier time of moving the load, but probably won't be climbing up any of those steep hills at 55 mph like those 600+ HP, 2000+ ft/lb turbo diesels.

I'll bet they make good power with that cold air.