what is faster

[syco83]

is a celeron 1.8 ghz faster than an athlon 900 mhz?
when playgames
config
1.8 ghz celeron
256 megs of ram
geforce 4 ti 4200 se 128 megs of ddr
compared to a 900 mhz athlon
256 megs of ram
geforce 4 ti 4200 se 128 megs of ddr

 

[Duvie]

Is that athlon a tbird??? It matters as the tbirds had more cache and ran at full speed versus 1/2 of the athlon classic....the celeron is neutered due to the 1/2 size of cache as a regular p4.....I think I saw a reference that a 2ghz celeron was slower then a 1.6a ghz northwood (in gaming) so I would say even conservatively the 1.8ghz celeron is likely better then a 1.4ghz p4 willamette and therefore better then the athon 900mhz even if a tbird....The celeron still does have all the sse and sse2 instructions which an athlon 900mhz does not...

 

[syco83]

i think it is a tbird
but it would still be faster right?

 

[shimsham]

even with the cellys shortcomings, its still faster than the 900.

 

[syco83]

then why does my new celeron run slower than my old athlon.
i get 5000 3dmarks in 3dmark2001se

 

[screw3d]

I would guess that since Athlons have way better FPU than the Celeron, it would probably outperform it in 3Dmark since it's a rather FPU intensive software? But since the Celeron is running at twice the clock speed..I'm scratching my head. Are both m/b using the same type of RAM?

 

[syco83]

yes pc133
the intel motherboard had onboard video but it has been disabled

 

[syco83]

can someone please help?

 

[Jeff7181]

Forget both of those... upgrade to a more useful solution... for $120 you can get a decent Athlon XP CPU and mobo... something that will definately blow away either of those options you listed
Actually... if you're looking to upgrade... I have an AMD XP1700 and MSI motherboard to go with it for sale... both used, so I'd make you a good deal on them... PM me if you're interested.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: syco83
yes pc133

Ding ding ding! :Q Pentium4-style Celerons are crippled enough already without further starving them with PC133 memory. I seem to recall XBit Labs finding that a Celeron overclocked to 3GHz was about the equivalent of a 1.40GHz AthlonXP in gaming benchmarks, and that was with DDR memory for the Celeron, not PC133.

Jeff7181 has the answer, rid yourself of the Celeron (can you take this system back for a refund?) and build something else. I suggest going to 512Mb of RAM too, especially if you're using WinXP. There are some games now that are benefitting from the jump to 1Gb of RAM.

 

[syco83]

i have had it less than 2 weeks i spent $220 in total.
I am going to take it back from were i had the work done on it.

 

[syco83]

can yall provide with links too benchmarks comparing it.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: syco83
can yall provide with links too benchmarks comparing it.

I have never seen anyone benchmark the Socket478 Celeron with PC133. Just trust us all on this one... it's like... --ok wait, I don't even want to put that analogy in print. Let's see... ok, it's like buying the cheapest mac & cheese the grocery store has, and throwing away half the cheese mix.

For a good replacement on a budget, get yourself an AthlonXP 2400+, an Asus A7N266-VM, a stick of 512Mb Crucial PC2100 unbuffered non-parity memory, and a Sparkle Power 350W power supply. You get onboard LAN, onboard six-channel high-performance audio with digital output (both optical and coax), onboard video plus an AGP slot, and probably 3DMark2001SE scores in the 10000 area using your Ti4200 (just an off-the-cuff guess).

Does it overclock? No. Does it have the ultimate forward upgradability? No. But it gets you going for about $280. You could spend a little more and get an nForce2 board if you want.

 

[orion7144]

I have a brand new ECS board with Lan and sound plus a XP2000 I'll let you have cheap...