What is a terrorist?

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: hatim
Is it just becuase there is no answer to the original question that some people are making personal attacks from old threads that have been done and susted with. I accept that I posted some really stupid stuff just to piss rabid off. I do apologize for that again. But please lets get back on the topic. Don't know what is wrong with PnN but people instead of discussing issuew, they wnjoy making personal attacks.

I posted the answer a few posts up.

 

[TheGameIs21]

Originally posted by: MonkeyK

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Saddam provided written documentation to the UN that he had a specific amount of WMD's. The documentation he provided as proof of the destruction of the WMD's didn't account for all that he claimed he had in the first place. Using simple math, according to the man that provided both figures, he still had WMD's. This was validated by the UN. (look up your own links, there have been many posted on P&N)

amount of WMD's claimed by Iraq to the UN - amount of WMD's proven to have been destroyed claimed by Iraq to the UN and the US = existing WMD's in Iraq.

Sure and the job of sorting out the descrpancy is left to the UN team that was doing the investigation. Companies do this all the time: I think I have made X units of a product, I believe I sold <X units but can't find any more in my warehouse. I guess it's time for an audit.

Ok... Using your analogy...

You stated on a form that kept you from going bankrupt that you had X units of a product that you will liquidate. You are told to provide very specific documentation to prevent being forced into bankruptcy by your lenders. You state on this very specific documentation that you didn't sell all of the units you stated you would. The Auditors come in and over a period of nearly 10 years, the auditors are constantly kept from auditing and lied to. Even after the final documentation was submitted that reflected not all of your units were sold, you continued to hinder the auditors. Finally after 10 years worth of stalling and grace periods, [edit] not just one but some of [/edit] the lenders come to remove you from the company.

Actually I do like your analogy. It explains what happened pretty clearly.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

People are free to believe what they want. Even in soviet russia...even in your corrupt hateful society.

People, however are NOT free to espouse those beliefs when they involve bigotry, racism or hatred, incite violence, etc....and we all post on this board at the mods discretion. Which I think is questionable in your case, given other actions taken on other members in the past.

Yeah, but that doesn't it's not ok for other side to espouse those beliefs, but it's ok for your side.

I can't quite decipher your garble of "but that doesn't it's not", maybe you meant to insert "mean" in there, but what exactly is "my side"? And please provide examples, as I have done.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MegaWorks

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

People are free to believe what they want. Even in soviet russia...even in your corrupt hateful society.

People, however are NOT free to espouse those beliefs when they involve bigotry, racism or hatred, incite violence, etc....and we all post on this board at the mods discretion. Which I think is questionable in your case, given other actions taken on other members in the past.

Yeah, but that doesn't it's not ok for other side to espouse those beliefs, but it's ok for your side.

I can't quite decipher your garble of "but that doesn't it's not", maybe you meant to insert "mean" in there, but what exactly is "my side"? And please provide examples, as I have done.

Oh Sh!t I wrote "dosen't" lol!, no This is the accurat one "That doesn't mean it's ok to blame the other side of "espouse those beliefs", and ignoring that some on this side would do the same.

It's nothing personal 🙂

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Noun 1. terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.

First thing I thought of was Christian envangelicals... you know, they kill doctors.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: conjur
Then does that make them terrorists?

I'm the last person to defend Hatim, but I don't believe he was talking about the Iraqis blowing up their own people and country, but the ones resisting the forces. I agree that those blowing up buildings and police stations is terrorism; some average Iraqi citizen protecting his home or block from what he perceives as murderous imperialists is not, in my opinion.

Thankyou. Thats what I meant.

And for those blowing themselves up: The US should prevent these attacks since they are the only real security force in IRAQ currently. Take out the police from new york. Then see how many killings go on.

But people still get killed in New York. Are those deaths the fault of the government?

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Originally posted by: MonkeyK

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Saddam provided written documentation to the UN that he had a specific amount of WMD's. The documentation he provided as proof of the destruction of the WMD's didn't account for all that he claimed he had in the first place. Using simple math, according to the man that provided both figures, he still had WMD's. This was validated by the UN. (look up your own links, there have been many posted on P&amp;N)

amount of WMD's claimed by Iraq to the UN - amount of WMD's proven to have been destroyed claimed by Iraq to the UN and the US = existing WMD's in Iraq.

Sure and the job of sorting out the descrpancy is left to the UN team that was doing the investigation. Companies do this all the time: I think I have made X units of a product, I believe I sold <X units but can't find any more in my warehouse. I guess it's time for an audit.

Ok... Using your analogy...

You stated on a form that kept you from going bankrupt that you had X units of a product that you will liquidate. You are told to provide very specific documentation to prevent being forced into bankruptcy by your lenders. You state on this very specific documentation that you didn't sell all of the units you stated you would. The Auditors come in and over a period of nearly 10 years, the auditors are constantly kept from auditing and lied to. Even after the final documentation was submitted that reflected not all of your units were sold, you continued to hinder the auditors. Finally after 10 years worth of stalling and grace periods, [edit] not just one but some of [/edit] the lenders come to remove you from the company.

Actually I do like your analogy. It explains what happened pretty clearly.

I think you are well aware that I am saying that If you can't find it to destroy/sell, you can't destroy/sell it. You could lie and claim that you did.

Let's not forget to add to the analogy that you had bad bookkeeping to start with and that there was a break-in (by a company that provided one of the auditors at that).