What is a terrorist?

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: conjur
Then does that make them terrorists?

I'm the last person to defend Hatim, but I don't believe he was talking about the Iraqis blowing up their own people and country, but the ones resisting the forces. I agree that those blowing up buildings and police stations is terrorism; some average Iraqi citizen protecting his home or block from what he perceives as murderous imperialists is not, in my opinion.

Thankyou. Thats what I meant.

And for those blowing themselves up: The US should prevent these attacks since they are the only real security force in IRAQ currently. Take out the police from new york. Then see how many killings go on.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: hatim
All this without real proof who made the condemnable attacks on September 11 2001. Sounds pretty unfair to me.

Apparently, the only way you will agree that OBL was behind the attacks is if I personally find him and drive him over to your house so he can admit it to you in person.

But wait, it could be a clone. That crafty US military-industrial complex managed to get some of his DNA and reproduce him to be controlled by the Oil companies with the intention of annexing oil rich ME nations.

 

[alchemize]

If you can kill gays based on your beliefs, then why can't we kill anyone we want based on ours hmm? Freedome of belief, right hatim?

I can't understand why this hateful troll hasn't been banned yet.

 

[kaizersose]

i dont care where they come from or what point they are trying to get across, a terrorist is someone who uses the threat of violence to acheive a goal.

 

[Klixxer]

Noun 1. terrorist - a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: conjur
Then does that make them terrorists?

I'm the last person to defend Hatim, but I don't believe he was talking about the Iraqis blowing up their own people and country, but the ones resisting the forces. I agree that those blowing up buildings and police stations is terrorism; some average Iraqi citizen protecting his home or block from what he perceives as murderous imperialists is not, in my opinion.

Well, it's what *I* was talking about and hatim had responded to my line of questioning.

<shrug>

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21

Saddam provided written documentation to the UN that he had a specific amount of WMD's. The documentation he provided as proof of the destruction of the WMD's didn't account for all that he claimed he had in the first place. Using simple math, according to the man that provided both figures, he still had WMD's. This was validated by the UN. (look up your own links, there have been many posted on P&amp;N)

amount of WMD's claimed by Iraq to the UN - amount of WMD's proven to have been destroyed claimed by Iraq to the UN and the US = existing WMD's in Iraq.

Sure and the job of sorting out the descrpancy is left to the UN team that was doing the investigation. Companies do this all the time: I think I have made X units of a product, I believe I sold <X units but can't find any more in my warehouse. I guess it's time for an audit.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: alchemize
If you can kill gays based on your beliefs, then why can't we kill anyone we want based on ours hmm? Freedome of belief, right hatim?

I can't understand why this hateful troll hasn't been banned yet.

Who said killing american gays or any other gays is legal? not for an ordinary man anyways.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: alchemize
If you can kill gays based on your beliefs, then why can't we kill anyone we want based on ours hmm? Freedome of belief, right hatim?

I can't understand why this hateful troll hasn't been banned yet.

Who said killing american gays or any other gays is legal? not for an ordinary man anyways.

Originally posted by: hatim

The punnishment for being gay is throwind the criminals over a cliff, and throwing a rock over them. I know thats harsh, but gaydom the biggest cause of diseases.

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[DealMonkey]

I thought a terrorist was anyone who deliberately targets civilians.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: alchemize
If you can kill gays based on your beliefs, then why can't we kill anyone we want based on ours hmm? Freedome of belief, right hatim?

I can't understand why this hateful troll hasn't been banned yet.

Who said killing american gays or any other gays is legal? not for an ordinary man anyways.

Originally posted by: hatim

The punnishment for being gay is throwind the criminals over a cliff, and throwing a rock over them. I know thats harsh, but gaydom the biggest cause of diseases.

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Holy cow, what a scumbag! :disgust:

 

[The Green Bean]

we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: alchemize
If you can kill gays based on your beliefs, then why can't we kill anyone we want based on ours hmm? Freedome of belief, right hatim?

I can't understand why this hateful troll hasn't been banned yet.

Who said killing american gays or any other gays is legal? not for an ordinary man anyways.

Originally posted by: hatim

The punnishment for being gay is throwind the criminals over a cliff, and throwing a rock over them. I know thats harsh, but gaydom the biggest cause of diseases.

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That's just fantastic. This board really needs more hate :roll:

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

 

[The Green Bean]

yes and Islamic law applies only to muslims

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

Fine...you think people SHOULD be killed beause they have different beliefs, but you wouldn't do it yourself. Or am I taking that quote of your's out of context?

 

[K1052]

Another hatim gem:

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: hatim

MAN these people start calling people not "normal" and flaming them just because they have different beliefs. And they call it "freedom" :disgust:

<BR><BR>Yes, you're not normal when you want to kill atheists and homosexuals as well as discriminate against people that are different than you. You are from a pathetic country if you are any representation of the people.

<BR><BR><BR>The west is pathetic for allowing gaydom and lesbaindom.....Soon theywill see the ill effects. Not too long before a western "society" will cease to exist. Ther are just like animals. Having sex with the same sex and even animals. They will grow mutated kids or something if they continue doing this. just SICK. Worst than animals. they people call themselves free people. But eventually all of them are going to end up in a destroyed land. AIDS, thats a quality of hmosexualness, even multiple illegal sex with whores. Man they dont even marry. All whores and Pimps. They depend on each other only for sex and money. Thats the only thing that they care about anyways. whats a family for. (except a few remaing) Its all about fun. Sex, food, sleep, and fun. How does that differ them from animals? Open sex, rapes by preists, sex my leaders. What has the USA come to anyways? In the name of freedom they have leglizied everything. If they are so free why dont they legalize killing? Its seems already the case, some "sex" disputes do lead to conflicts and killing. First see how much is wrong with your society then criticize others.<BR><BR>'Nuff said

im off
hatim

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

Fine...you think people SHOULD be killed beause they have different beliefs, but you wouldn't do it yourself. Or am I taking that quote of your's out of context?

nope noone should be killed for having different beliefs and nor does Islamic law say so.

and K1052 I would reccommend posting the whole thread. I was very angry when I made that post and apoligize to anyone who has been offended.

hatim

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

Fine...you think people SHOULD be killed beause they have different beliefs, but you wouldn't do it yourself. Or am I taking that quote of your's out of context?

nope noone should be killed for having different beliefs and nor does Islamic law say so.

and K1052 I would reccommend posting the whole thread. I was very angry when I made that post and apoligize to anyone who has been offended.

hatim

A link is provided a few posts up for anyone interested.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

People are free to believe what they want. Even in soviet russia...even in your corrupt hateful society.

People, however are NOT free to espouse those beliefs when they involve bigotry, racism or hatred, incite violence, etc....and we all post on this board at the mods discretion. Which I think is questionable in your case, given other actions taken on other members in the past.

 

[The Green Bean]

I dont hate anyone.

 

[MegaWorks]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: hatim

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: hatim
we are going a bit off topic arent we here?

Not as much as you might think. You seem to support killing people who believe differently than you...which certainly explains why you dislike the term "terrorist".

No I don't...people are free to beleive what they want. You can't force someoene into beleiving anything. And killing anyone is a crime pubishable by death. If I would kill a man even if he was gay, or atheisit, my pucnishment would be death. You people seem to be mixing up Islamic law with beleifs.

People are free to believe what they want. Even in soviet russia...even in your corrupt hateful society.

People, however are NOT free to espouse those beliefs when they involve bigotry, racism or hatred, incite violence, etc....and we all post on this board at the mods discretion. Which I think is questionable in your case, given other actions taken on other members in the past.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's not ok for other side to espouse those beliefs, but it's ok for your side.

 

[The Green Bean]

Is it just becuase there is no answer to the original question that some people are making personal attacks from old threads that have been done and susted with. I accept that I posted some really stupid stuff just to piss rabid off. I do apologize for that again. But please lets get back on the topic. Don't know what is wrong with PnN but people instead of discussing issuew, they wnjoy making personal attacks.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: hatim
Is it just becuase there is no answer to the original question that some people are making personal attacks from old threads that have been done and susted with. I accept that I posted some really stupid stuff just to piss rabid off. I do apologize for that again. But please lets get back on the topic. Don't know what is wrong with PnN but people instead of discussing issuew, they wnjoy making personal attacks.

Several people have already addressed your question.

I did not make a personal attack by pointing out that you had contradicted yourself. Posting your rant from the other thread might be borderline, but I think it is fine considering your blatant denial of inconvenient facts.