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Tech Junky

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I mean at this point, what is the difference between Home and Pro?
Being hobbled into stupid ware vs the OS doing what you want all because of a "key".


Everyone for the most part paid the MSFT tax when they bought their machine the first time. For all the versions of Windows some of us have used over the years this adds up to significant amount of cash. These days it's getting cheaper but, being nudged into the MS Account back to Win8 days is just another attempt to generate more revenue through surveillance linked to your account via "telemetry".
 

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What's 11 even like? I'm still on 10 myself. I've been tempted to upgrade since my install is fairly new but it looks terrible.
Well first off, if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm on 11 now solely because if I dump it my new computer loses its warranty. That being said, after a few days I changed my workflow enough. Though an OS should be catering to me and the way I need to work with things, and not be a data collection point.
 
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Well first off, if it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm on 11 now solely because if I dump it my new computer loses its warranty. That being said, after a few days I changed my workflow enough. Though an OS should be catering to me and the way I need to work with things, and not be a data collection point.
Sounds terrible. Haven't seen you in a while. Hope you're well!
 

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This morning I swapped in the NH-U9S. The negative is it took a lovely 90 minutes; the positive is idle temp is around 24c and with all 6 cores running prime95 the temp is around 60c; so a bit of improvement in that department. I still can't get the on board gpu to work. I though there was a bios setting to force it enabled but now i can't find it. Oh well.
 

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Well I learn something new today- you all probably knew this but i didn't - you can't enable/use igp with old disks that boot without uefi. What a royal pia for old window disks and linux. Why intel did this - who knows - but sounds incredibly lame. I mean how am i going to run dos on a machine that has no gpu ?
 

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Convert the drive to gpt to enable UEFI.
Yea I saw that MS had a tool to do this; I'm more concern about my linux system which is still using sandy bridge 2500K; I want to upgrade it soon and not sure if simply converting the disk to gpt is sufficient or if some other magic is needed. Well more precisely the disk is already gpt but not sure what i need to do to enable it for secure boot. There is a new kernel that support alder bridge (and alder bridge gpu) so I guess I need to figure it out. For that system there is no reason for a gpu - for the windows box I need a gpu since it is for games...
 

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There's about 5 commands to run on Linux using fdisk but you have to boot to a livecd though and run gparted to put a 50mb efi partition at the front and then add the grub efi files to it. I did it with my server when I upgraded to ADL because CSM wasn't working.
 
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There's about 5 commands to run on Linux using fdisk but you have to boot to a livecd though and run gparted to put a 50mb efi partition at the front and then add the grub efi files to it.
Very interesting. Do the commands shrink the primary partition, move any data forward amounting to 50MB that's there and then create the new partition?
 

Tech Junky

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Use gparted to move the partition back to add the new 50mb efi. The files on the efi directory don't take up that much space but the os won't use less than 50.
 
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There's about 5 commands to run on Linux using fdisk but you have to boot to a livecd though and run gparted to put a 50mb efi partition at the front and then add the grub efi files to it. I did it with my server when I upgraded to ADL because CSM wasn't working.
The document i found said it didn't matter where the efi partition was located as long as it was labelled.
 
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Tech Junky

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Do whatever you want and if it doesn't work then move it to the beginning of the disk.

Code:
fdisk -l

Disk /dev/nvme0n1: 931.51 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Disk model: WDS100T1X0E-00AFY0                     
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: F2F38961-3091-4D39-8219-99E08EA0CE77

Device          Start        End    Sectors   Size Type
/dev/nvme0n1p1   2048     102399     100352    49M EFI System
/dev/nvme0n1p2 102400 1953523711 1953421312 931.5G Linux filesystem

lsblk

nvme0n1     259:0    0 931.5G  0 disk   
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1    0    49M  0 part   /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p2 259:2    0 931.5G  0 part   /
Putting it on the front of the disk makes it easier to mange partitions later if you want to rearrange things / resize / add an OS.
 

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