BenSkywalker
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Not according to the game developer Gearbox; nVidia cards are not rendering the camo how it was meant to be rendered.
Find a quote.
If you think so then try running in on a DirectX 7 board and look at the difference, and then do the same for Doom III.
OK, FC looks different- although it still looks far better then most games coming out today. D3 won't run on a Radeon or Kyro.
The bulk of D3's shaders are just doing simple multi-texturing
That is some pile of BS. D3 is using shaders(not the BS PR definition either), albeit very simplistic ones, for nearly every on screen pixel.
in terms of flashy effects you only get the odd haze or light effect here and there Not so in FC where the entire game is built around shaders.
Do what you are saying yourself. Go ahead and kill all of the shaders in FC and check it out. Tell me when you get D3 to run on either a Radeon or a Kyro. For a long time people were claiming the R100 was the basis for DX8 and that can't even launch the game. Doesn't make it a shading monster in any way, but the R100 significantly exceeds the DX7 specs.
Excuse me? Have you somehow missed the benchmark results where the NV3x is sometimes half the speed of the R3xx? This thread is filled with shader based titles that repeatedly demonstrate this fact so how long will you continue to deny the results?
Forget the NV3x and R3x0, the R420 and NV40 both are too slow to put a serious shader load on them. The R3x0 is a lot better then the Voodoo1 at shaders too, is that going to make you talk about how playable it is when it's pushing under 5FPS running 640x480 when we get some honest shader heavy games? Are you going to talk about how good its shader performance is then?
You seem to be on a troll mission to turn this in to a NV3X v R3x0 discussion- I'm running the R3x0 here myself and have been for some time as you know. The R3x0 on a relative basis has considerably faster shaders then the NV3x, find me saying otherwise anywhere. The problem is, relative is needed in there as a disclaimer as the parts are both so incredibly slow.
The benchmarks speak for themselves; nothing to do with hype.
WTF are you on about with this statement? What benches show what? Last I was aware Mafia ran fairly evenly on the R3x0 vs the NV40. That game has almost no shaders in it(and you can kill the couple it has easily enough). Two of the games you listed off as titles using shaders(JKII/JKIII) run significantly faster on the NV3x hardware then they do on R3x0 hardware. The benches show us how these parts perform, they do not in and of themselves say a d@mn thing about the shader load they are under.