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envy me

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There have been plots in movies of attacks happening during public sporting events in stadiums and such. And the superbowl is only aroung 40 days away.

If say a nuclear bomb were to go off during the superbowl what impact do you think that would have on normal life? on the middle east? on martial law?

I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

 

judasmachine

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NASCAR would be more effective in inflaming americans.

Seriously though, if someone nukes the US, the US will turn everyplace the guilty live into glass. Hopefully not inflaming other major powers who would turn the US into glass.
 

Todd33

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I'd move, this country is already run by loons, it would just get 10x worse.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: envy me

There have been plots in movies of attacks happening during public sporting events in stadiums and such. And the superbowl is only aroung 40 days away.

If say a nuclear bomb were to go off during the superbowl what impact do you think that would have on normal life? on the middle east? on martial law?

I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

The arabs would never take so many of their own out by nuking Detroit. Dearborn borders it.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
Seriously though, if someone nukes the US, the US will turn everyplace the guilty live into glass. Hopefully not inflaming other major powers who would turn the US into glass.

Well if history tells us anything, then we won't actually "glass" the places the guilty live, since most of those hijackers were from saudi arabia...

instead we blindfold Dick Cheney and then spin a globe next to him. wherever his finger lands on the globe is where we attack.
 

morkinva

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Since I'll be at the game, I suppose I'd become part of the upper atmosphere :)

Seriously, I'd try and explain to folks that it was our own state sponsored terrorism that did this (just like the last time). Then I'd shoot them in the face.
 

envy me

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I think that because of what is going on, with Bush's approval rating so low, the De Lay scandal, the torture scandal, the other scandals I cant remember, It would serve as a usefull scapegoat to get the media attention off of all the other stuff. Just my opinion.
 

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Rock-bottom discount price for a nuke is probably around $5 billion. That alone is why there ain't gonna be no nuclear nonsense. Now a suicide bomber with a vest full of TNT & nails.... that's something you can put together for about $100. I wouldn't lose any sleep over nukes.
 

raildogg

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People here and elsewhere will blame America, like always. Its America's fault that the Islamic terrorists hate us.

Lets admit defeat to them and let them convert us.
 

mjh

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Why exactly would they use a nuclear weapon on Detroit, Michigan? I would imagine using a nuclear weapon in a city like New York City, Los Angeles, Boston or Philadelphia would be a much better choice. Perhaps using some sort of dirty bomb during the Super Bowl would be a better choice.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: envy me
I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

I like how you forgot the tens/hundreds of thousands of people who would die. Oh yeah, my fault, you don't give a sh!t.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: tommywishbone
Rock-bottom discount price for a nuke is probably around $5 billion. That alone is why there ain't gonna be no nuclear nonsense. Now a suicide bomber with a vest full of TNT & nails.... that's something you can put together for about $100. I wouldn't lose any sleep over nukes.

You're overestimating the price of a nuclear bomb by at least 100X.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: mjh
Why exactly would they use a nuclear weapon on Detroit, Michigan? I would imagine using a nuclear weapon in a city like New York City, Los Angeles, Boston or Philadelphia would be a much better choice. Perhaps using some sort of dirty bomb during the Super Bowl would be a better choice.

Because a lot of civilians will be present during this event. And a lot of dead civilians = sympathy from the nation = power to do whatever they like.

 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

I like how you forgot the tens/hundreds of thousands of people who would die. Oh yeah, my fault, you don't give a sh!t.

???

Is this supposed to be a flame post of some sort?? Obviously this would be a disaster, I'm just asking about the aftermath of it.

 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

I like how you forgot the tens/hundreds of thousands of people who would die. Oh yeah, my fault, you don't give a sh!t.
Is this supposed to be a flame post of some sort?? Obviously this would be a disaster, I'm just asking about the aftermath of it.

The aftermath will be pure chaos. I have no idea who'd be struck because the current government is so incompetend as to simply sh!t their pants if something like that happens.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me
I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

I like how you forgot the tens/hundreds of thousands of people who would die. Oh yeah, my fault, you don't give a sh!t.
Is this supposed to be a flame post of some sort?? Obviously this would be a disaster, I'm just asking about the aftermath of it.

The aftermath will be pure chaos. I have no idea who'd be struck because the current government is so incompetend as to simply sh!t their pants if something like that happens.

I agree 100% with you... Unless the government would want something like that to happen, which is very far-fetched but none the less possible.

 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: her209
How big of a device would one need?
Even a fizzled critical mass will yield 0.3-0.4 kiloton... or the equivalent of 300-400 tons of TNT. Such an explosion in the middle of a stadium in a highly urban area will kill 100% of the people in the stadium and another 70-90% within 300-400 meter radius, with a 2X reduction in fatalities every 0.25km after that.

This holds true for ultra-low-yield blasts up to 5kt or so. However, since the detonation will be ground-level, the fallout might kill more people than the blast itself.
 

envy me

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Seeing as how nothing has been happening lately, does anybody think that something like this is likely to happen in the near future?

 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: envy me

Seeing as how nothing has been happening lately, does anybody think that something like this is likely to happen in the near future?

It's unlikely. Nuclear devices are hard to build and maintain, expensive and logistically difficult to buy, and not easy to deliver to the target.

An attack using biological weapons seems more likely, and while it may have less of an immediate effect, might turn out to be far more lethal.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: envy me

There have been plots in movies of attacks happening during public sporting events in stadiums and such. And the superbowl is only aroung 40 days away.

If say a nuclear bomb were to go off during the superbowl what impact do you think that would have on normal life? on the middle east? on martial law?

I personally think that if something like this were to happen, Iran would be blamed, martial law would be enforced, and everybody's worst nightmares would come true.

The arabs would never take so many of their own out by nuking Detroit. Dearborn borders it.

I hope you are kidding... Can you say Jordan?
 

mjh

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me

Seeing as how nothing has been happening lately, does anybody think that something like this is likely to happen in the near future?

It's unlikely. Nuclear devices are hard to build and maintain, expensive and logistically difficult to buy, and not easy to deliver to the target.

An attack using biological weapons seems more likely, and while it may have less of an immediate effect, might turn out to be far more lethal.
Yeah, terrorists are much more likely to use a dirty bomb or any type of biological weapon over a nuclear weapon.

 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: mjh
Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: envy me

Seeing as how nothing has been happening lately, does anybody think that something like this is likely to happen in the near future?

It's unlikely. Nuclear devices are hard to build and maintain, expensive and logistically difficult to buy, and not easy to deliver to the target.

An attack using biological weapons seems more likely, and while it may have less of an immediate effect, might turn out to be far more lethal.
Yeah, terrorists are much more likely to use a dirty bomb or any type of biological weapon over a nuclear weapon.
Don't put so much stock in a "dirty bomb". Believe it or not, a dirty bomb will not have much of an effect besides the press coverage. The number of casualties would be very small.
 

mjh

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Another question that may have to be answered is how easy is it to construct a dirty bomb? Any idea on the damage that a dirty bomb could do in a major city? (I am now morbidly curious about the possible casualty rates.) Even if casualties are limited, the psychological effects of it (along with the press coverage) could be damaging enough.