the law states that you have to turn whatever you've found in an establishment. after 30 (or was it 90?) days and no one has come to claim it, then it's yours.
however, in your situation, you should get the thing appraised. if it's a real diamond, tell your manager that you've found a gem. if anyone comes looking for it, they should call you and tell them what was lost and the carat.
however, in your situation, you should get the thing appraised. if it's a real diamond, tell your manager that you've found a gem. if anyone comes looking for it, they should call you and tell them what was lost and the carat.
rh71: I think you better do whatever it takes to find its owner.. Otherwise my opinion of you will be correct.
You guys totally missed it, it's the sentimental value of wearing your loved one on a finger, not the diamond.
And to answer mugs' question about real vs artificial, try comparing girl to blow up dolls (may be not a very good analogy, but, you get the idea).
you're right...
that is a horrible analogy.
if you put a real and artifical diamond next to one another, i bet you most people can't tell the difference.
Gemesis. Theres one other but I cant think of the name of it right off. Supposedly the Gemesis diamonds are so good you cant tell the difference between them and the naturals. Also, thay say they can turn out a karat in like 3 days if I remember correctly. Ironically enough, the machines to make them? Russian. The Russians couldnt ever perfect the process, some guy bought the machines, had a few University smarty pants come computerize them and pow. There crankin out as good of diamonds as can be found.
I'd like to say I'd keep it. Normally I would just to work you guys up.
Fact is, I'm very concious of my actions. Hell, I give back change at the gas station/fast food place if I get too much.....
Sometimes morals suck :frown:
Fact is, I'm very concious of my actions. Hell, I give back change at the gas station/fast food place if I get too much.....
Sometimes morals suck :frown:
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
I'd like to say I'd keep it. Normally I would just to work you guys up.
Fact is, I'm very concious of my actions. Hell, I give back change at the gas station/fast food place if I get too much.....
Sometimes morals suck :frown:
Morals never suck, because the odds are ALWAYS in your favor. You benefit far more from morality than you will ever lose to it. There is one of you, and billions of other people. The only reason you are alive and can claim any security in your property is the existence of morality.
Take it to my friend who's father owns a Jewelry establishment and let there diamond expert determine its worth free of charge.
Too bad this didn't happen to me. I most likely could have just had them sell it for me as well.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Shockwave
I'd like to say I'd keep it. Normally I would just to work you guys up.
Fact is, I'm very concious of my actions. Hell, I give back change at the gas station/fast food place if I get too much.....
Sometimes morals suck :frown:
Morals never suck, because the odds are ALWAYS in your favor. You benefit far more from morality than you will ever lose to it. There is one of you, and billions of other people. The only reason you are alive and can claim any security in your property is the existence of morality.
Yeah yeah, dont be gettin all sappy on me Amused.
I think I saw this in a Bond movie
.But, get back to the real vs fake. It's true that most people can't tell the difference between cubic zirconia vs a real diamond, let alone the different grades and colors and clarity. But, you do! The value of authenticity is not because it looks identical, but because the rarity of it.
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
I think I saw this in a Bond movie
But, get back to the real vs fake. It's true that most people can't tell the difference between cubic zirconia vs a real diamond, let alone the different grades and colors and clarity. But, you do! The value of authenticity is not because it looks identical, but because the rarity of it.
Agreed. But, the point is if a less the upright company wanted to, they could dump "fake" "authentics" on the market and no one would know. Same composition, just different means to obtain it.
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Shockwave
I'd like to say I'd keep it. Normally I would just to work you guys up.
Fact is, I'm very concious of my actions. Hell, I give back change at the gas station/fast food place if I get too much.....
Sometimes morals suck :frown:
Morals never suck, because the odds are ALWAYS in your favor. You benefit far more from morality than you will ever lose to it. There is one of you, and billions of other people. The only reason you are alive and can claim any security in your property is the existence of morality.
Yeah yeah, dont be gettin all sappy on me Amused.
No sap, just the cold, hard truth. If more people would take an objective look at why morality exists and why it is essential to any society we'd be a lot better off.
The problem is, people have no idea why morality exists and how it will ALWAYS benefit them far more then it will ever cost them. They are so short sighted they think they gain something by breaking morality when, in reality, the example they have set will cost them many times more than what they gained over the course of their life.
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
I think I saw this in a Bond movie
But, get back to the real vs fake. It's true that most people can't tell the difference between cubic zirconia vs a real diamond, let alone the different grades and colors and clarity. But, you do! The value of authenticity is not because it looks identical, but because the rarity of it.
Agreed. But, the point is if a less the upright company wanted to, they could dump "fake" "authentics" on the market and no one would know. Same composition, just different means to obtain it.
The reality here is that if "fakes" can be made that are totally indistinguishable from the real ones, than diamonds will cease to be a precious commodity.
This happened to aluminum at one time in history as well.
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Originally posted by: rh71
being $10-$15k richer these days would change the course of my life.
Yes, but how much will you pay in theft insurance over the course of your life? How much will you lose to thieves over the course of your life? How much in lost property will never be returned to you over the course of your life?
How much will be saved by others acting morally instead of taking your things when they have the chance?
The golden rule exists for a reason. That reason is not fear of a god or sappy sentiments, but the cold hard reality that you don't want people screwing you, therefore you cannot screw other people. It is the very backbone of a civilized society.
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I don't know if I personally take it that far. I personally just feel bad someone lost something that's not easily replaceable and would like to see if I can get it back to them. I don't believe in fate, nor God, nor "no good deed goes unnoticed", etc. I simply feel bad if I were to keep it without making an attempt first. Afterward, it's MINE baby.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: rh71
being $10-$15k richer these days would change the course of my life.
Yes, but how much will you pay in theft insurance over the course of your life? How much will you lose to thieves over the course of your life? How much in lost property will never be returned to you over the course of your life?
How much will be saved by others acting morally instead of taking your things when they have the chance?
The golden rule exists for a reason. That reason is not fear of a god or sappy sentiments, but the cold hard reality that you don't want people screwing you, therefore you cannot screw other people. It is the very backbone of a civilized society.
I found a watch while in the dorms a few years back and I posted a sign on the girl's bathroom door (it was found in that hallway)... and a few days later, some girls came knocking and very grateful... but that's where it ended. It's a feel-good but too bad you don't get to keep it feeling.
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Originally posted by: rh71
I don't know if I personally take it that far. I personally just feel bad someone lost something that's not easily replaceable and would like to see if I can get it back to them. I don't believe in fate, nor God, nor "no good deed goes unnoticed", etc. I simply feel bad if I were to keep it without making an attempt first. Afterward, it's MINE baby.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: rh71
being $10-$15k richer these days would change the course of my life.
Yes, but how much will you pay in theft insurance over the course of your life? How much will you lose to thieves over the course of your life? How much in lost property will never be returned to you over the course of your life?
How much will be saved by others acting morally instead of taking your things when they have the chance?
The golden rule exists for a reason. That reason is not fear of a god or sappy sentiments, but the cold hard reality that you don't want people screwing you, therefore you cannot screw other people. It is the very backbone of a civilized society.
The golden rule asks for nothing more than an honest attempt to find the real owner. Why? Because that is what you wish others would do if you lost something.
And morality must always be viewed by the big picture. Empathy is fine, and I'm glad you feel it, but many people have little to no empathy for others. Therefore the logical reason of why morality exists must be remembered and taught to others.
We got a phone call from on of the b/f's credit card companies the day before yesterday. they were a bit concerned cause ... well, they wanted to know if he made 1) a purchase of $2,645.00 from Tower Records and $6,500.00 purchase from Newegg, and a purchase for $699.00 for something else ... all were to be delivered to Michagan (we are in NJ)... needless to say that we did NOT make these purchases.
Hahaha!!
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yea i read the story on wired magazine a while back that talked about the 2 companies making artificial diamonds now (by 2 different methods) and how they have to constantly watch their back in fear of DeBeers "hitmen". They are taking away a lot of profit from DeBeers and DeBeers is not happy. It spoke about how Debeers is 10 times worse than MS in terms of monopolizing the market, but noone can do anything cuz they are too big, too rich, and too powerful.
as per your comment on
I was talking to friend's gf (she's kinda high maintainance) and was telling her about what I read and how these cultured diamonds are more perfect than natural ones...even though it costs less...and she was like "Ew NO WAY. i want the real thing on my finger" I almost told her "yea, either way, you'll have a lump of good looking carbon on you finger"...but i didnt
i feel sorry for my friend
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