sandorski
No Lifer
How about you taking some time to not blatantly twist peoples posts? You have been called out so many times by so many different Posters on exactly that.
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What if there was no God?
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How about you taking some time to not blatantly twist peoples posts? You have been called out so many times by so many different Posters on exactly that.
I see you're not gonna admit you were wrong, but you are gonna continue to try to justify your assasination of my character.
When backed into a corner, atheists tend to fight instead of using reason I see.
Not my fault that you can't convey your thoughts in a clear, coherent manner.
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sandorski
No Lifer
soulcougher73
Lifer
LOL Ignorance is bliss.
witeken
Diamond Member
If you want to become not ignorant, you'll need science. Religion only helps you to become more ignorant.
witeken
Diamond Member
What you think is god, is in fact nothing more than firing neurons.
Malak
Lifer
Answered prayers, miracles, science.
He states it in the documentary Expelled while emphatically reminding the viewer he refuses to believe God exists. It's an example of what I've already pointed out. Atheists construct a God that doesn't exist then state no God can exist. But rationally intelligent design makes sense. Atheists go to the edge of their acceptable reality and refuse to step any further.
witeken
Diamond Member
Sure, if you ignore all the ones he didn't answer.
Btw, How did he answer your prayers?
My general rule of thumb is that human testimony/experience is the worst kind of evidence for phenomena. For example, if you were to believe your eyes, you'd think that wireless internet is a miracle because you can't see the light that is emitted by your phone.
Furthermore, you're not the first person to say that miracles happen. Lots of people say that, so is it a coincidence that there's no scientific evidence for?
Have you ever tried to scientifically explain the answered prayers, the 'miracles' and even god? You can't use science to justify beliefs. You simply can't, else it wouldn't be beliefs but true facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-hNKDhUjO8
Why does it make sense, because it doesn't. If you need God to intelligently design this not so intelligently designed universe, then what do you need to intelligently design god?
Malak
Lifer
My Bible app stopped working. Amazon gave me $10 credit towards apps, so I got a new one.
We accept human testimony every day. The entirety of the education system is using someone else's experience to tell you how it is. I find it the most puzzling that people use this argument despite being forced to admit they are a hypocrite.
Why do you think there is no evidence? Because the particular news you choose to read isn't reporting it? Because the particular school you learned everything about life from never mentioned it? You choose your ignorance. All the evidence is out there, it's just not important enough to you to find it. You stubbornly refuse the experience and knowledge that you lazily claim doesn't exist.
alzan
Diamond Member
Not sure what you're trying to say here.
Why would anyone debate a belief?
If I said I believe that invisible unicorns are responsible for all the miraculous healing that happens in the world would you debate me on that issue?
Of course you wouldn't; you can't disprove it and I can't prove it.
witeken
Diamond Member
By this logic, I shouldn't believe anything from anyone.
It may surprise you, but not everyone has the intention to spread misinformation. And even then there is a very compelling reason not to spread misinformation: people (like teachers, newspapers, textbook writers, etc.) get paid for educating people with accurate information. Moreover, the whole monetary system is based on faith, and yet it just works.
There are reasons to believe what some people say, but there isn't a reason to believe what you or other religious people say.
Then show me your evidence.
What I'm saying is that atheists argue against a version of our beliefs that they create.
Because beliefs aren't static and they cause people do act certain ways, do certain things, etc. It's very worthwhile debating beliefs depending on how they affect people, or you can simply stop posting in faith-based discussions.
No, because you don't believe that. If you did and taught these as truth to your kids and others, debating them then serves a purpose, and I would debate it with you.
But since you don't, no I wouldn't. I don't debate something that someone doesn't believe in -- if someone believes in the Muslim God, I don't debate the existence of unicorns (like almost every single atheist does -- they don't really debate your belief, but the strawman unicorn they equate them to).
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alzan
Diamond Member
How do you know I don't believe that invisible unicorns are responsible for all the miraculous healing that happens in the world. How do you know I haven't told that belief to other people in hopes of opening their eyes to the truth of unicorn healing powers, only to be greeted with stares of disbelief. I don't tell it to too many people anymore because of that.
But it's my belief and as real to me as your belief is to you.
The fact that some theists tell their beliefs to their kids or others and that they've been doing that for thousands of years is what's responsible for so many people having those beliefs; not that there really is a/are G-d(s).
The "truth", the "evidence" and the "proof" of the belief lies in how a believer lives and breathes the tenets of the belief, not in how many fellow believers there are or how long there have been believers.
soulcougher73
Lifer
WTF lol So god made that happen huh? Nothing to do with a company that is known to go above and beyond on customer service. It was god? Lol
You don't believe that. Now let's get past the nonsense, please. 🙄
Nice way to totally miss my point. I am saying that for a belief to be debated, people have to actually hold said belief. Of course, I think you understood my point already.
soulcougher73
Lifer
No they don't. That is the most ridiculous thing ive ever read. You ever been to a debate club? They are just given topics to debate. Its also called a hypothetical situation. Or in layman terms..putting yourself in someone else's shoes. Any "normal" human has no problems doing this.
JD50
Lifer
This is why I generally avoid conversations with him.
Ah yes, a convenient way to dodge questions that clearly point out the irrationality of atheism.
How about you answer the hard questions instead of running and hiding?
If there were no god, I would still continue living life the way that I do. My views are similar to an atheist's, but i believe there is a god. I believe its good to be good and there is a purpose, however, I live under no guilt or fear from being bad and my only duty is to live being good.
JD50
Lifer
Your questions have been answered multiple times. You're like a psychological evaluation, you ask the same thing 10 different ways over and over again.
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JEDIYoda
Lifer
actually no answer is not an answer...his questions have not been answered...
We are often accused of twisting words when we are simply critically examining the atheist world-view. They claim to champion critical thinking until, well...it's used to scrutinize their own viewpoints, then your accused of dishonesty.
But I think that scientifically speaking, neither theism or atheism have a basis in reality because they are conclusions reached about the real world based on vastly incomplete evidence, or no evidence at all.
If atheists objectively think about their own views, they will recognize just how equally irrational atheism is.
LMFAO, these comments are rich coming from rob. It's clear he is just trolling everyone.
Taking words or quotes out of context, simply ignoring major questions which are asked multiple times. We have been down these paths enough times to know nothing will change. We have got to the point before where Rob has refused to answer a question because it would mean he was incorrect and the others were right, and admitted that was the reason he wouldn't answer the question. Then later admitted he was wrong, yet continued with the same argument he admitted was wrong.
And as expected it's the same here
Taking words or quotes out of context, simply ignoring major questions which are asked multiple times. We have been down these paths enough times to know nothing will change. We have got to the point before where Rob has refused to answer a question because it would mean he was incorrect and the others were right, and admitted that was the reason he wouldn't answer the question. Then later admitted he was wrong, yet continued with the same argument he admitted was wrong.
And as expected it's the same here
I thought I was on your ignore list, according to you:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36583348&postcount=50
...but I guess you took me off, or never had me on to begin with.
What's the point of "Ignore" if you fail to use it?
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